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Post by dirtypillows on Oct 2, 2018 1:12:00 GMT
You can round it any which direction that compels you! I'd say that he needs the power of Christ to compel him Mr. D. Or maybe the power of laughter! Geez, Toasted Cheese, you just gotta check this out. (If I haven't already suggested it to you ten times, and sorry if I have, you know we all love to share what we love, which is precisely how you got me to watch "Barry Lyndon" and also how I got you to watch "Radio Days", mi amigo!) But this is one of the funniest punch lines ever! (You should have a peek, too, ant-mac! That is if you like to laugh!) go ahead and click, it's not like you're going to become possessed by a demon out of nowhere all of a sudden... you know you want to...I was possessed by a demon
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Post by ant-mac on Oct 2, 2018 1:16:09 GMT
Why can't I round it down instead? You can round it any which direction that compels you! I'm not compelled to head in any direction.
I just find that sometimes, it's more pleasing to have a choice than to make that choice.
And sometimes not.
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Post by dirtypillows on Oct 2, 2018 1:45:48 GMT
You can round it any which direction that compels you! I'm not compelled to head in any direction.
I just find that sometimes, it's more pleasing to have a choice than to make that choice.
And sometimes not.
Okay, then. Fine. Got it all down. Crystal as a bell! ...NEXT!!!
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Post by ant-mac on Oct 2, 2018 1:50:28 GMT
I'm not compelled to head in any direction.
I just find that sometimes, it's more pleasing to have a choice than to make that choice.
And sometimes not.
Okay, then. Fine. Got it all down. Crystal as a bell! ...NEXT!!!If I were to tell you that the next I say is true, but that the last thing I said was a lie, would you believe me?
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Post by dirtypillows on Oct 2, 2018 1:50:35 GMT
You can round it any which direction that compels you! I'm not compelled to head in any direction.
I just find that sometimes, it's more pleasing to have a choice than to make that choice.
And sometimes not.
Well, at any rate, Burt better decided which direction compells him to go or else he's going to run out of gas and sooner than later.
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Post by ant-mac on Oct 2, 2018 1:51:35 GMT
I'm not compelled to head in any direction.
I just find that sometimes, it's more pleasing to have a choice than to make that choice.
And sometimes not.
Well, at any rate, Burt better decided which direction compells him to go or else he's going to run out of gas and sooner than later. What do you mean direction?
He's dead.
That's it.
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Post by dirtypillows on Oct 2, 2018 1:56:35 GMT
Okay, then. Fine. Got it all down. Crystal as a bell! ...NEXT!!!If I were to tell you that the next I say is true, but that the last thing I said was a lie, would you believe me? Oh, golly, ant-mac, I'd just as soon lie and agree with you about just about anything just to get ya to try and smile and maybe ask me how I was feeling and all that other stuff that a fella likes to hear ever once in a while from another fella...COTTON TO MUCH?
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Post by dirtypillows on Oct 2, 2018 1:59:24 GMT
Well, at any rate, Burt better decided which direction compells him to go or else he's going to run out of gas and sooner than later. What do you mean direction?
He's dead.
That's it.
The Burt I am looking at and referring to was the alive Burt I had in mind when I thought "make up your mind", but, yes, as a matter of fact, he is dead, you old fart.
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Post by ant-mac on Oct 2, 2018 2:01:51 GMT
If I were to tell you that the next I say is true, but that the last thing I said was a lie, would you believe me? Oh, golly, ant-mac, I'd just as soon lie and agree with you about just about anything just to get ya to try and smile and maybe ask me how I was feeling and all that other stuff that a fella likes to hear ever once in a while from another fella...COTTON TO MUCH?I'm sorry, I've never been known for smiling much.
But that doesn't mean I'm not content.
I hope you're lucky enough to feel that way too.
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Post by ant-mac on Oct 2, 2018 2:04:04 GMT
What do you mean direction?
He's dead.
That's it.
The Burt I am looking at and referring to was the alive Burt I had in mind when I thought "make up your mind", but, yes, as a matter of fact, he is dead, you old fart. I think you'll find I'm more of a bastard than a fart...
Unless you're referring to the elephant from SMOKEY AND THE BANDIT II.
Burt called her that in the blooper reel if I remember correctly.
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Post by dirtypillows on Oct 2, 2018 2:06:24 GMT
The Burt I am looking at and referring to was the alive Burt I had in mind when I thought "make up your mind", but, yes, as a matter of fact, he is dead, you old fart. I think you'll find I'm more of a bastard than a fart...
Unless you're referring to the elephant from SMOKEY AND THE BANDIT II.
Burt called her that in the blooper reel if I remember correctly.
That's it! That's exactly it! Thank you, mac 'n cheese! G'nite!
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Post by ant-mac on Oct 2, 2018 2:09:39 GMT
I think you'll find I'm more of a bastard than a fart...
Unless you're referring to the elephant from SMOKEY AND THE BANDIT II.
Burt called her that in the blooper reel if I remember correctly.
That's it! That's exactly it! Thank you, mac 'n cheese! G'nite! Goodnight...
And for some reason, I suddenly feel like having a McDonald's Cheeseburger for lunch.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2018 3:05:26 GMT
Nora , I added my part in the game in bold Italics, lol below. I hope I'm doing this right. <Lol well crap, it's all in bold, editing my part to stand out now, hang on a sec> <Another edit, hopefully the italics stand out better>: all clear. Good additions, especially 13 and 14 are good points that I forgot to include. This will be very interesting! So I now add facts from my legal career. These are not interpretations but verified facts. Granted, YOU cannot verify them, but I have and only include such instances where I know for a fact that what I am saying is true. For your information - during more than a decade of my work in this field, I have been investigating various allegations of criminal conduct, some very serious, and including sexual assaults. 1. Not all reported sexual assaults actually happened. 2. However, most of reported sexual assaults actually happened. Overwhelming majority. But only a minority of them were reported immediately. 3. In the ones where we were able to discover that the assault didn't happen, we always also discovered a clear motive for why the allegation was made. Most of the times it was personal revenge a couple times it was a staged coup to take someone down from a position of power. 4. When interviewing/questioning (from a position of authority however not on trial) somebody about whom I at the time of the questioning knew they were lying (example: had hard evidence against them, that they didnt know I had) only ONE out of several dozens cases lied in a way that there was no visible emotional response to the situation. Every other case followed similar path of i) being visibly upset, ii) adding unnecessary information/detail iii) going in circles/returning to previously made statements that would put the questioned person in a positive light even when unconnected to the question. 5. The longer the crime/unwanted conduct stayed undiscovered, the stronger was the emotional reaction of the questioned subject to our finding it. - this I find particularly interesting.now if I look at this case through the lens of my experience as a lawyer, it appears "quite clearly" as a case of one person believing they speak the truth and another person not having completely clean conscience and at the same time not being a sociopath. (and not having conscience etc). But that still leaves us with several potential scenarios: A1. F believes what she is saying is true and it is true 2. F believes what she is saying is true, but in reality it is not true (memory lapse, confusion, brainwashing etc) 3. K believes what he is saying to be true but is regretful about not having shared something else that he previously evaluated as undesirable to publicly share ("has a secret") 4. K knows he is lying and the incident happened 5. K knows he is lying but the incident didn't happen how F described it If we disregard my experience that would be clearly pointing toward F speaking the truth and K lying, we can also evaluate the option of K "acting out" out of immense sense of frustration over the injustice he perceives is happening to him and huge pressure he is under. To support that we would also have to accept: B.1. All the other accusers also lie AND 2. The report/s of his excessive drinking is a lie AND 3. F either has a brain damage, or is being blackmailed, bribed or has some other very strong motive to keep up this lie even under such stressful conditions as it Certainly is to be interviewed like this on national tv AND 4. K has not had a proper counsel by his side (who would have coached him not to do most of the things he did and it should be manageable for K to follow this advice with clean conscience) or B could be combined with A2. I would be interested to know which option would you chose as most likely under A and what motivation do you think F has under B3. To me thats the "most muddy" part of this. I think there are so many more possibilities. I see what you are saying from your experience, but I also see a different scenario between what K is going through in a senate panel and what you are basing your experience on. I've seen many instances of men and women who are exasperated at the whole proceeding when it has turned into the circus that these chambers allow. Equal teams of the most successful partisans in the country half trying to tear the person apart half trying to build the build the person into something he is not. I don't think the defensiveness and bickering says any more about K than he fits right in with the senators. So I would add a 6. K believes what he is saying and is an emotional partisan just like the emotional partisans doing the questioning. And to b 2, why do the reports of excessive drinking need to be a lie here? I know plenty of belligerent drunks who are not prone to attempt rape. And b3, the delay of K could be a great motive for someone who is a strong enough believer in choice to lie if we were looking for a motive to lie, millions of people's lives could be negatively impacted by K's confirmation, from a certain point of view. Although my personal bias is F believes what she is saying and she is either correct or mistaken in who did it. And my personal bias is that K is truthful, lying, or does not remember the act.
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Post by Caesium137 on Oct 3, 2018 8:30:54 GMT
Heisenbergs principle means there is no objective reality. How so? There is no absolute measurement to be made to detect a single sub atomic particle. There is only a probability it exists in a certain area. Couple that with the wave-particle duality, which states how sub atomic particles can behave both like waves or particles depending on who is observing it, then objective reality is not true.
The fact that the world is not one big blurry wave is testament to that
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Post by permutojoe on Oct 3, 2018 13:01:05 GMT
There is no absolute measurement to be made to detect a single sub atomic particle. There is only a probability it exists in a certain area. Couple that with the wave-particle duality, which states how sub atomic particles can behave both like waves or particles depending on who is observing it, then objective reality is not true.
The fact that the world is not one big blurry wave is testament to that
As far as I know that more or less breaks determinism, assuming there isn't some fundamental part of reality that QM doesn't account for. I don't recall ever hearing about how Heisenberg broke objective reality altogether.
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Post by Roberto on Oct 4, 2018 3:56:24 GMT
i have no idea
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Post by Nora on Oct 5, 2018 0:25:12 GMT
I think there are so many more possibilities. I see what you are saying from your experience, but I also see a different scenario between what K is going through in a senate panel and what you are basing your experience on. I've seen many instances of men and women who are exasperated at the whole proceeding when it has turned into the circus that these chambers allow. Equal teams of the most successful partisans in the country half trying to tear the person apart half trying to build the build the person into something he is not. I don't think the defensiveness and bickering says any more about K than he fits right in with the senators. So I would add a 6. K believes what he is saying and is an emotional partisan just like the emotional partisans doing the questioning. And to b 2, why do the reports of excessive drinking need to be a lie here? I know plenty of belligerent drunks who are not prone to attempt rape. And b3, the delay of K could be a great motive for someone who is a strong enough believer in choice to lie if we were looking for a motive to lie, millions of people's lives could be negatively impacted by K's confirmation, from a certain point of view. Although my personal bias is F believes what she is saying and she is either correct or mistaken in who did it. And my personal bias is that K is truthful, lying, or does not remember the act. i agree, there are. the reports of excessive drinking dont need to be a lie, you are correct. unless we assume it was to the point of blacking out, which he denied and if that is his secret then he cannot really be sure what he did. i have now thought about it for a couple of days and my conclusion is they both believe they are telling the truth BUT Kavanaugh is trying to conceal something. Regardless of who is telling the truth, I dont think the punishment fits the crime. If he didnt do it its horrific but even if he did do what she is saying he did, the punishment is too big already. Thats my biggest problem with these non-trials. Similar with Louis Ck and potentially also Spacey and such. Not to compare directly act to act. But the way we as society treat these wrongdoers just does not match how we treat other wrongdoers who have perhaps committed something more horrific, like outright murder or attempted murder or systemic long term criminal behaviour etc. i could see Kavanaugh committing suicide. And i dont think it would be a good result.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2018 0:35:00 GMT
I think there are so many more possibilities. I see what you are saying from your experience, but I also see a different scenario between what K is going through in a senate panel and what you are basing your experience on. I've seen many instances of men and women who are exasperated at the whole proceeding when it has turned into the circus that these chambers allow. Equal teams of the most successful partisans in the country half trying to tear the person apart half trying to build the build the person into something he is not. I don't think the defensiveness and bickering says any more about K than he fits right in with the senators. So I would add a 6. K believes what he is saying and is an emotional partisan just like the emotional partisans doing the questioning. And to b 2, why do the reports of excessive drinking need to be a lie here? I know plenty of belligerent drunks who are not prone to attempt rape. And b3, the delay of K could be a great motive for someone who is a strong enough believer in choice to lie if we were looking for a motive to lie, millions of people's lives could be negatively impacted by K's confirmation, from a certain point of view. Although my personal bias is F believes what she is saying and she is either correct or mistaken in who did it. And my personal bias is that K is truthful, lying, or does not remember the act. i agree, there are. the reports of excessive drinking dont need to be a lie, you are correct. unless we assume it was to the point of blacking out, which he denied and if that is his secret then he cannot really be sure what he did. i have now thought about it for a couple of days and my conclusion is they both believe they are telling the truth BUT Kavanaugh is trying to conceal something. Regardless of who is telling the truth, I dont think the punishment fits the crime. If he didnt do it its horrific but even if he did do what she is saying he did, the punishment is too big already. Thats my biggest problem with these non-trials. Similar with Louis Ck and potentially also Spacey and such. Not to compare directly act to act. But the way we as society treat these wrongdoers just does not match how we treat other wrongdoers who have perhaps committed something more horrific, like outright murder or attempted murder or systemic long term criminal behaviour etc. i could see Kavanaugh committing suicide. And i dont think it would be a good result. I hope he doesn't. We will see how the vote goes. The vote will not have anything to do with the evidence. It will have to hinge if a couple of Republicans break ranks, probably only if they consider his partisanship as a judge. Lol if that's the reason though, he may have to run for the senate or house. Partisanship plays well there.
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