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Post by Nora on Sept 26, 2018 2:04:43 GMT
I often think about “different realities”. I dont mean alternative worlds but all the things we think we know that may be wrong. or just different than we think.
I wonder what most people think about their reallity. Or id they think about it at all? Is it the one thats correct? Are you mostly free from bias and other misleading factors? Or do you question/challenge the things you assume are true?
And by “correct” i dont mean highly subjective things like “that movie is great/shit”.
But things that could be (perhaps with data or insight u dont have) proven wrong. But you may never find out because.. you dont know what you dont know, do you.
what are your thoughts on this?
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Post by twothousandonemark on Sept 26, 2018 2:08:14 GMT
I think what I take from the premise might be how much of what I perceive from my own mind's eye is actually accurate.
To which I'd probably say 40%.
I mean, everything is reality, including the mind's eye. Yet perceptions can be fully & totally false. How many times have you been cut off or tailgated by some overstuffed BMW or Mercedes SUV, thinking that guy or girl should get a life. Then it turns out to be some 80yr old man or woman who wouldn't know how to road rage if you handed them a gun.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2018 2:11:34 GMT
NoraYou are so interesting! Can I ask what kind of a degree you have? You're a deep thinker.
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Post by Nora on Sept 26, 2018 2:13:37 GMT
NoraYou are so interesting! Can I ask what kind of a degree you have? You're a deep thinker. its a law degree. criminal law to be precise. and thank you. now what do you think abut your reality? :-) |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2018 2:16:41 GMT
Nora You are so interesting! Can I ask what kind of a degree you have? You're a deep thinker. its a law degree. criminal law to be precise. and thank you. now what do you think abut your reality? :-) I have no idea. How we view the world is filtered through the lens of our experiences. |
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Post by Nora on Sept 26, 2018 2:21:55 GMT
I think what I take from the premise might be how much of what I perceive from my own mind's eye is actually accurate. To which I'd probably say 40%. I mean, everything is reality, including the mind's eye. Yet perceptions can be fully & totally false. How many times have you been cut off or tailgated by some overstuffed BMW or Mercedes SUV, thinking that guy or girl should get a life. Then it turns out to be some 80yr old man or woman who wouldn't know how to road rage if you handed them a gun. yeah exactly. but what also fascinates me is the blind spots oeole have about themselves. how often do you see it that everybody around a person sees something (usually negative but sometimes also positive) what they dont see. ANd if u tell them also struggle to believe. today I think was the first time I actually felt bad for Trump. I was watching some late night show and they were making fun of him as they often do, and at one point it became so apparent that in certain areas he really has no clue THAT he has no clue about certain things he claims to grasp. it made me sad for him for a brief moment And I dont mean this to turn political, it happens to everybody I think, to a certain degree. I think it would be wonderful to be able to see “reality” through someone elses eye. |
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Post by twothousandonemark on Sept 26, 2018 2:26:34 GMT
I think what I take from the premise might be how much of what I perceive from my own mind's eye is actually accurate. To which I'd probably say 40%. I mean, everything is reality, including the mind's eye. Yet perceptions can be fully & totally false. How many times have you been cut off or tailgated by some overstuffed BMW or Mercedes SUV, thinking that guy or girl should get a life. Then it turns out to be some 80yr old man or woman who wouldn't know how to road rage if you handed them a gun. yeah exactly. but what also fascinates me is the blind spots oeole have about themselves. how often do you see it that everybody around a person sees something (usually negative but sometimes also positive) what they dont see. ANd if u tell them also struggle to believe. today I think was the first time I actually felt bad for Trump. I was watching some late night show and they were making fun of him as they often do, and at one point it became so apparent that in certain areas he really has no clue THAT he has no clue about certain things he claims to grasp. it made me sad for him for a brief moment And I dont mean this to turn political, it happens to everybody I think, to a certain degree. I think it would be wonderful to be able to see “reality” through someone elses eye. Another side track but it's like depression. Usually it's your mind lying to you. Read that again. Your mind. Is lying to you. Your thoughts never leave & if you let them control you, you feel knocked over 24/7. How f'd up is that - the negative voices in our heads are usually bs & yet we listen to them like they're gospel. To which I sake fcuk that, & I can outpace them if I want whenever I want. It's tougher to negate the lying in your head, might as well leap into the matrix myself & just pretend they can't catch up with me lols. I know that sounds cocky, & yet we've depression crisis in part because of f'ing lies our minds keep repeating. So which one is more f'd, the one agreeing with them or the one at least spitting in their eye. |
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Post by ant-mac on Sept 26, 2018 2:35:17 GMT
All of our personal realities are probably more subjective than we truly realize. The universal, objective reality is something independent and separate from that. For those who are truly aware and observant, their subjective reality and the true, objective reality overlap sufficiently to allow them a rewarding and satisfactory existence. Alternatively, is all that we see or seem but a dream within a dream?  |
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Post by Nora on Sept 26, 2018 2:41:36 GMT
All of our personal realities are probably more subjective than we truly realize. The universal, objective reality is something independent and separate from that. For those who are truly aware and observant, their subjective reality and the true, objective reality overlap sufficiently to allow them a rewarding and satisfactory existence. Alternatively, is all that we see or seem but a dream within a dream? what do you consider an objective rrality though? and how do you know Thats it? |
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Post by ant-mac on Sept 26, 2018 2:54:37 GMT
All of our personal realities are probably more subjective than we truly realize. The universal, objective reality is something independent and separate from that. For those who are truly aware and observant, their subjective reality and the true, objective reality overlap sufficiently to allow them a rewarding and satisfactory existence. Alternatively, is all that we see or seem but a dream within a dream? what do you consider an objective rrality though? and how do you know Thats it? Well, that's the big question, isn't it? How would I know it when I see it? Would I even recognize it? How do I know that I'm not contamination its objectivity with my own subjectivity?
After all, it's the universal truth, not my own petty personal truth. It doesn't just exist here and now for one individual or one species. It exists everywhere, for all sentient beings simultaneously. If an objective reality exists, then it exists for everyone.
As Douglas Adams put it, "Life, the Universe and everything."
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Post by them1ghtyhumph on Sept 26, 2018 3:06:24 GMT
My reality is subjective reality.
I don't believe there is objective reality
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Post by Nora on Sept 26, 2018 3:12:55 GMT
My reality is subjective reality. I don't believe there is objective reality and how much of your subjective reality is objectively wrong? :-) |
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Post by them1ghtyhumph on Sept 26, 2018 3:14:26 GMT
My reality is subjective reality. I don't believe there is objective reality and how much of your subjective reality is objectively wrong? :-) To me? None, or I wouldn't consider it reality |
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Post by Nora on Sept 26, 2018 3:27:44 GMT
and how much of your subjective reality is objectively wrong? :-) To me? None, or I wouldn't consider it reality so u dont ever question it? |
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Post by them1ghtyhumph on Sept 26, 2018 3:31:05 GMT
To me? None, or I wouldn't consider it reality so u dont ever question it? Of course I questioned it. How do you think I came to that conclusion? I am not the most intelligent person on this board, but I am not a doofus. |
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Post by Nora on Sept 26, 2018 3:40:50 GMT
so u dont ever question it? Of course I questioned it. How do you think I came to that conclusion? I am not the most intelligent person on this board, but I am not a doofus. what is interesting to me is that you were even able to get to the conclusion that what you perceive as reality actualy Is reality, albeit subjective one  (edited for humph) |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2018 3:45:46 GMT
I think, therefore I am.
Beyond that, objectivism starts to erode.
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Post by them1ghtyhumph on Sept 26, 2018 4:00:41 GMT
Of course I questioned it. How do you think I came to that conclusion? I am not the most intelligent person on this board, but I am not a doofus. what is interesting to me is that you were even able to get to the conclusion that what you percieve as realitt actualt Is reality, albeit subjective one Nice that you find that interesting. And your spelling sucks |
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Post by Nora on Sept 26, 2018 4:08:48 GMT
what is interesting to me is that you were even able to get to the conclusion that what you percieve as realitt actualt Is reality, albeit subjective one Nice that you find that interesting. And your spelling sucks ... oh well.. and to think I thought this exchange was going somewhere. You see? Things are not always what they seem to be. For what its worth I enjoyed it while it lasted. |
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Post by dirtypillows on Sept 26, 2018 5:03:03 GMT
I often think about “different realities”. I dont mean alternative worlds but all the things we think we know that may be wrong. or just different than we think. I wonder what most people think about their reallity. Or id they think about it at all? Is it the one thats correct? Are you mostly free from bias and other misleading factors? Or do you question/challenge the things you assume are true? And by “correct” i dont mean highly subjective things like “that movie is great/shit”. But things that could be (perhaps with data or insifgr u dont have) proven wrong. But you may never find out because.. you dont know what you dont know, do you. what are your thoughts on this? "different realities", that's pretty deep. I guess there is an objective reality that almost nobody could tolerate for a sustained length of time. I have a huge imagination and I would just assume consider that my reality. I'm not even close to being free of bias. I think I could describe myself as highly impressionistic. In a way, I have very little capacity for making a judgment. On the Myers-Briggs test (which I am a huge fan of), I scored very high as a perceptive (as opposed to judging), which means that I can see, "perceive" the validity of many, many different perspectives, as opposed to be somebody who can make a final decision with confidence and speed. Most of the time, I hate making decisions. It's not good or bad, either way, and I, personally, am kind of pleased that I do lean more towards the 'P' versus 'J'. At any rate, I might as well be happy with it if that's who I am!!! Maybe I shouldn't admit this so freely, but I would say I value imagination over science. And they are always coming out with new theories. I remember one time I read something about eating carrots linked to certain kinds of cancer. I sort of gave up on science after that. Not really, but sort of. |
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