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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Oct 2, 2018 12:16:46 GMT
There's life and there's death. From what we know, they're dead.You would have to explain to me why anyone of them would go to heaven. Otherwise, my answer is sufficient. So, if I interpret your belief: In the Old Testament, bad people simply die, but good people go to Heaven. Under the New Testament, bad people spend eternity in Hell. In what year did the rules change?
Other than a two thousand year-old book of folklore, where's your explanation that anyone goes to Heaven?
Who is "we"? From what I know, everyone born before 1890 is just like Mozart: decomposing.
I'm saying that according to the OT, they died. Most anything else is speculative. Now, people who read the Bible may be able to determine a little bit more than that, but it is usually too deep for theophobiacs who tend to keep things simple. I may post about it later. |
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Post by Isapop on Oct 2, 2018 13:41:32 GMT
but it is usually too deep for theophobiacs who tend to keep things simple. Maybe it's time you learned that there is a real word for what you mean with "theophobiac". The word is misotheist. Here is part of the description from a Christian oriented site: ...a misotheist despises God or religion in general...The more common expression today would be antitheist, though misotheism technically implies a more emotional, personal level of disgust. Part of what makes the term misotheism interesting is that it denotes an attitude more than any particular belief. It’s possible to be an atheist or agnostic and not be considered a misotheist. One can deny God’s existence without harboring an active loathing of God. Once someone gets to the point of feeling that theism is harmful and needs to be actively countered, he could be considered an antitheist. And those who are characterized by a particular hatred, condescension, or animosity toward religion would more properly be considered misotheists.
www.gotquestions.org/misotheism-misotheist.html
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Post by Vegas on Oct 2, 2018 13:47:18 GMT
There's life and there's death. From what we know, they're dead.You would have to explain to me why anyone of them would go to heaven. Otherwise, my answer is sufficient. So, if I interpret your belief: In the Old Testament, bad people simply die, but good people go to Heaven. Under the New Testament, bad people spend eternity in Hell. In what year did the rules change?
Other than a two thousand year-old book of folklore, where's your explanation that anyone goes to Heaven?
Who is "we"? From what I know, everyone born before 1890 is just like Mozart: decomposing.
It's like a brick wall is suffering from Down Syndrome and Memento-ism... You can have the same conversation with this dipshit every day for the rest of your life.  |
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Post by yougotastewgoinbaby on Oct 2, 2018 15:27:28 GMT
No doubt, you are probably thinking "So what?" Well, let us take into account another ancient city (albeit far, far, more recent than Sodom, Gomorrah, & other vicinities in the area) that had been destroyed by a volcano: Pompeii. In the years since the ruins of Pompeii had been discovered, archeologists have uncovered the bodies of people that had been killed by the volcano. They were all encased in salt-encrusting shells, preserving their remains. Therefore, that explains Mrs. Lot's fate: she hesitated to escape watching the horror of her home & former neighbours being destroyed, & before she knew it, she was overcome by toxic vapours & salt encrusting crystals all over her body. The people of Pompeii were encased in compacted volcanic ash, not salt. |
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Post by clusium on Oct 2, 2018 18:33:43 GMT
No doubt, you are probably thinking "So what?" Well, let us take into account another ancient city (albeit far, far, more recent than Sodom, Gomorrah, & other vicinities in the area) that had been destroyed by a volcano: Pompeii. In the years since the ruins of Pompeii had been discovered, archeologists have uncovered the bodies of people that had been killed by the volcano. They were all encased in salt-encrusting shells, preserving their remains. Therefore, that explains Mrs. Lot's fate: she hesitated to escape watching the horror of her home & former neighbours being destroyed, & before she knew it, she was overcome by toxic vapours & salt encrusting crystals all over her body. The people of Pompeii were encased in compacted volcanic ash, not salt. Well, I still think the afore-mentioned theory makes the most sense (I read it many years ago, in a newspaper). |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Oct 2, 2018 18:37:29 GMT
I'm ok with God doing it. I think a localized volcano is stretching it a bit.
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Post by yougotastewgoinbaby on Oct 2, 2018 19:22:51 GMT
The people of Pompeii were encased in compacted volcanic ash, not salt. Well, I still think the afore-mentioned theory makes the most sense (I read it many years ago, in a newspaper). Maybe. But then you’d need to find the volcano, which shouldn’t be that hard given how young it would be. I know very little about the geology of the area, so maybe there is a young volcano in the area. |
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Post by clusium on Oct 2, 2018 19:25:43 GMT
Well, I still think the afore-mentioned theory makes the most sense (I read it many years ago, in a newspaper). Maybe. But then you’d need to find the volcano, which shouldn’t be that hard given how young it would be. I know very little about the geology of the area, so maybe there is a young volcano in the area. It might have also been an earthquake (though even there, you would have to find a fault line). Should be noted though, that earthquakes are often warnings that a volcano is going to erupt. |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Oct 2, 2018 19:29:06 GMT
Maybe. But then you’d need to find the volcano, which shouldn’t be that hard given how young it would be. I know very little about the geology of the area, so maybe there is a young volcano in the area. It might have also been an earthquake (though even there, you would have to find a fault line). Should be noted though, that earthquakes are often warnings that a volcano is going to erupt. Why would you think it was discussing a natural phenomenon? |
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Post by clusium on Oct 2, 2018 20:38:11 GMT
It might have also been an earthquake (though even there, you would have to find a fault line). Should be noted though, that earthquakes are often warnings that a volcano is going to erupt. Why would you think it was discussing a natural phenomenon? Because God USES natural phenomenons to Reward or Punish His children. Eg: The Flood was caused by heavy rains. |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Oct 2, 2018 20:40:36 GMT
Why would you think it was discussing a natural phenomenon? Because God USES natural phenomenons to Reward or Punish His children. Eg: The Flood was caused by heavy rains. Well, those are still by miraculous means although I'm not sure that natural phenomenon were the only way unless we create a new story to surround what's written. This is like saying that the Egyptians drowned in the Red Sea by galloping into it. |
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Post by Cinemachinery on Oct 2, 2018 21:27:32 GMT
At least part of her remains is now a low-light lamp in a new age holistic remedy center.
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Post by clusium on Oct 2, 2018 21:41:38 GMT
Because God USES natural phenomenons to Reward or Punish His children. Eg: The Flood was caused by heavy rains. Well, those are still by miraculous means although I'm not sure that natural phenomenon were the only way unless we create a new story to surround what's written. This is like saying that the Egyptians drowned in the Red Sea by galloping into it. Not really. God still Blew the seas back, and then let it crash over them. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2018 22:32:14 GMT
After God turned her to salt? Did she go to Heaven? Hell? Purgatory? Poughkeepsie? Where is she today?
And what about all the other people God killed, like the 42 boys that Jehovah mauled with bears, or the millions of people killed by Yahweh's flood?
And speaking of the flood, didn't anyone besides Noah have a boat?
She became a hippie business woman selling organic food and specialty salts and spices. She sells a lot to heathens and sinners. |
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Post by Rodney Farber on Oct 2, 2018 22:45:25 GMT
Because God USES natural phenomenons to Reward or Punish His children. Eg: The Flood was caused by heavy rains. So every one of the 167,540 persons that were killed in the tsunami of 26-Dec-2004 were being punished by Jehovah? How convenient that all of them just happened to be in the same place at the same time. Why didn't Yahweh just send she-bears to maul them just like he did to the 42 boys in 2 Kings 2? |
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Post by clusium on Oct 2, 2018 22:48:41 GMT
Because God USES natural phenomenons to Reward or Punish His children. Eg: The Flood was caused by heavy rains. So every one of the 167,540 persons that were killed in the tsunami of 26-Dec-2004 were being punished by Jehovah? How convenient that all of them just happened to be in the same place at the same time. Why didn't Yahweh just send she-bears to maul them just like he did to the 42 boys in 2 Kings 2? Good idea. |
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Oct 3, 2018 2:35:48 GMT
 She is still there as a pillar of salt. Or so they say. You're exactly right and everyone else has glided over the correct answer. That salt pillar was obviously there before the story was written. The correct answer to what question? Besides, are you saying Lot's wife was a 50 foot rock formation? |
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Post by Aj_June on Oct 3, 2018 2:39:13 GMT
I don't know. In Australia we eat the burger with the Lot! I am assuming they turned her into special Australia chicken salt just to put into the Lot!
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Post by goz on Oct 3, 2018 3:11:57 GMT
I don't know. In Australia we eat the burger with the Lot! I am assuming they turned her into special Australia chicken salt just to put into the Lot! I hate to break it to you, butt you don't put chicken salt on a 'Burger with the Lot' aka Worksburger. It has a toasted white bun (sesame seeds optional) a scrape of butter seasoned beef burger, fried onion rings, shredded lettuce, sliced tomato, sliced tinned beetroot cold, fried sliced tinned pineapple hot, a fried egg, and fried bacon. To this wonderful edifice you add BBQ sauce (though some peasants put tomato sauce aka tomato ketchup) You're welcome!  |
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Post by Aj_June on Oct 3, 2018 3:21:17 GMT
I don't know. In Australia we eat the burger with the Lot! I am assuming they turned her into special Australia chicken salt just to put into the Lot! I hate to break it to you, butt you don't put chicken salt on a 'Burger with the Lot' aka Worksburger. It has a toasted white bun (sesame seeds optional) a scrape of butter seasoned beef burger, fried onion rings, shredded lettuce, sliced tomato, sliced tinned beetroot cold, fried sliced tinned pineapple hot, a fried egg, and fried bacon. To this wonderful edifice you add BBQ sauce (though some peasants put tomato sauce aka tomato ketchup) You're welcome! Cool. Thanks. I just love eating 'Burger with the Lot'. It's far better than other burgers I have had. I wrote last post just in jest. |
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