Post by Vassaggo on Oct 8, 2018 6:11:21 GMT
Spoiler-y Tom Hardy is great. His fighting, moving, and space work was great with the symbiote scenes. The duality between him and the symbiote is good. Hardy pulls off the humorous mental break down flawlessly. There is a solid 40 minutes of a good movie here.
The first 30 minutes is a little slow and meh. Drake could've been replaced with a cardboard cut out of Elon Musk with sharpie devil horns and a caption of Evil Corporate Madman written on it. With a string pulling down the cardboard mouth. Just have someone softly deliver the lines from off camera. There would be no difference than what we got.
I don't know who makes the decision in in Black Panther and Venom to have black suited cgi actions scenes at night or in a underground base, but they should be fired. In Black Panther I can excuse the first scene with him attacking the slavers, because it's supposed to be kind of stealthy attack. Moving from shadows and seeing him in the gun fire. The final battle in the underground in BP and pretty much the last 35 minutes of Venom is visually like putting blue on black. At least with BP you have the open battle sequence above ground in the light. There is nothing in Venom to contrast it with. the last act of Venom is a muddled ugly mess.
I can't believe I'm saying this but Venom's admitting he is a loser and his almost saccharine sweet affection and turn to save the earth was out of know where and felt forced. It was like turning on a dime. We need to have the Anti-Hero and Villain to fight and it has to look like Venom is willing to die. So we have the feint that the funny alien is going to sacrifice himself. There was some hinting that he liked the Earth don't get me wrong, but everything Venom wanted was self preservation in the whole movie. For him to suddenly want to go against his better and most likely dying trying was shoved in there so we could have a final battle. None of that felt earned at all. I know MCU movies have a reputation for having bad villains, but the trend has steadily gone upwards. Drake before Riot was a thumbnail sketch of a character, completely wooden, and not at all menacing. The symbiote Riot personality was set up with 1 line of dialogue with him and Drake. And one line of dialogue from Venom Symbiote and Eddie. That's it. With the 2 merged. 2 bland underdeveloped characters isn't like algebra. If you multiply them together you don't get a Positive Good Character.
Michelle Williams was wasted in this movie. Good actress with nothing to do. And you never get the feeling that her and Eddie's relationship was real. It felt forced with the Perfect Relationship Banter in the beginning. His betrayal of her didn't land home with her acting. Her new relationship with the Doctor felt phony too. I mean her best scene was her transferring the Symbiote back to Eddie. And that was done with a fully CGI'ed character. I kind of wish Anne was played by a shittier actress. That way I could blame it on the actress. There was nothing here for Michelle.
The middle 3rd of the movie was good to sometimes great, which just shows flaws in the 1st 3rd and last 3rd. Maybe with the sequel now that it looks like it will make the cash (barring some poison word of mouth and 2nd week collapse) will take inspiration for that middle 3rd.
On first viewing I was going to give it a 5 out of 10. After the second viewing I'll give it 6 out 10. Not horrible but definitely not good.
The first 30 minutes is a little slow and meh. Drake could've been replaced with a cardboard cut out of Elon Musk with sharpie devil horns and a caption of Evil Corporate Madman written on it. With a string pulling down the cardboard mouth. Just have someone softly deliver the lines from off camera. There would be no difference than what we got.
I don't know who makes the decision in in Black Panther and Venom to have black suited cgi actions scenes at night or in a underground base, but they should be fired. In Black Panther I can excuse the first scene with him attacking the slavers, because it's supposed to be kind of stealthy attack. Moving from shadows and seeing him in the gun fire. The final battle in the underground in BP and pretty much the last 35 minutes of Venom is visually like putting blue on black. At least with BP you have the open battle sequence above ground in the light. There is nothing in Venom to contrast it with. the last act of Venom is a muddled ugly mess.
I can't believe I'm saying this but Venom's admitting he is a loser and his almost saccharine sweet affection and turn to save the earth was out of know where and felt forced. It was like turning on a dime. We need to have the Anti-Hero and Villain to fight and it has to look like Venom is willing to die. So we have the feint that the funny alien is going to sacrifice himself. There was some hinting that he liked the Earth don't get me wrong, but everything Venom wanted was self preservation in the whole movie. For him to suddenly want to go against his better and most likely dying trying was shoved in there so we could have a final battle. None of that felt earned at all. I know MCU movies have a reputation for having bad villains, but the trend has steadily gone upwards. Drake before Riot was a thumbnail sketch of a character, completely wooden, and not at all menacing. The symbiote Riot personality was set up with 1 line of dialogue with him and Drake. And one line of dialogue from Venom Symbiote and Eddie. That's it. With the 2 merged. 2 bland underdeveloped characters isn't like algebra. If you multiply them together you don't get a Positive Good Character.
Michelle Williams was wasted in this movie. Good actress with nothing to do. And you never get the feeling that her and Eddie's relationship was real. It felt forced with the Perfect Relationship Banter in the beginning. His betrayal of her didn't land home with her acting. Her new relationship with the Doctor felt phony too. I mean her best scene was her transferring the Symbiote back to Eddie. And that was done with a fully CGI'ed character. I kind of wish Anne was played by a shittier actress. That way I could blame it on the actress. There was nothing here for Michelle.
The middle 3rd of the movie was good to sometimes great, which just shows flaws in the 1st 3rd and last 3rd. Maybe with the sequel now that it looks like it will make the cash (barring some poison word of mouth and 2nd week collapse) will take inspiration for that middle 3rd.
On first viewing I was going to give it a 5 out of 10. After the second viewing I'll give it 6 out 10. Not horrible but definitely not good.
