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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Oct 10, 2018 21:04:41 GMT
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Post by shinnickneth on Oct 10, 2018 23:43:35 GMT
 meanwhile.... I think we’re watching different shows if you think dany wont burn northerners. She'll burn anyone who stands in her way of ruling Westeros. Having said that, I'm not sure how long her alliance with Jon will last, but he can influence the way she handles the lords. |
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Oct 11, 2018 14:16:05 GMT
meanwhile.... I think we’re watching different shows if you think dany wont burn northerners. She'll burn anyone who stands in her way of ruling Westeros. Having said that, I'm not sure how long her alliance with Jon will last, but he can influence the way she handles the lords. I agree with jons influence over her,but if this story is written in a believable way she won't care much about jons influence once she learns he is the rightful Targaryen ruler . |
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Post by Aj_June on Oct 11, 2018 15:09:10 GMT
meanwhile.... I think we’re watching different shows if you think dany wont burn northerners. She'll burn anyone who stands in her way of ruling Westeros. Having said that, I'm not sure how long her alliance with Jon will last, but he can influence the way she handles the lords. Soon she wouldn't be in position of burning people. Jon is going to be the ruler in my opinion. That said the footage shows her killing Lannister army. Don't see how is that different from soldiers killing others. And way better than the Mountain killing poor peasants. The next footage shows her burning the idiot Randyll Tarly. He was given the choice of full pardon. He chose not to avail the choice and paid for it. |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Oct 11, 2018 15:56:58 GMT
She'll burn anyone who stands in her way of ruling Westeros. Having said that, I'm not sure how long her alliance with Jon will last, but he can influence the way she handles the lords. Soon she wouldn't be in position of burning people. Jon is going to be the ruler in my opinion. That said the footage shows her killing Lannister army. Don't see how is that different from soldiers killing others. Soldiers defending their home land she decided to invade out of personal sense of entitlement. There is no describing the stupidity or hypocrisy of anyone defending this. I'll be shitting in the face of Daenerys fans for the rest of their lives. They do not count as respectable to me. |
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Post by Aj_June on Oct 11, 2018 16:02:34 GMT
Soon she wouldn't be in position of burning people. Jon is going to be the ruler in my opinion. That said the footage shows her killing Lannister army. Don't see how is that different from soldiers killing others. Soldiers defending their home land she decided to invade out of personal sense of entitlement. There is no describing the stupidity or hypocrisy of anyone defending this. I'll be shitting in the face of Daenerys fans for the rest of their lives. They do not count as respectable to me. The "homeland" didn't belong to Lannisters either who were burning the fields. It was war. Same as in if Starks had attacked from the north. |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Oct 11, 2018 16:18:50 GMT
Soldiers defending their home land she decided to invade out of personal sense of entitlement. There is no describing the stupidity or hypocrisy of anyone defending this. I'll be shitting in the face of Daenerys fans for the rest of their lives. They do not count as respectable to me. The "homeland" didn't belong to Lannisters either who were burning the fields. It was war. Same as in if Starks had attacked from the north. Olenna Tyrell allied with the invader. The Queen had to take the necessary measures. |
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Post by Aj_June on Oct 11, 2018 17:16:35 GMT
The "homeland" didn't belong to Lannisters either who were burning the fields. It was war. Same as in if Starks had attacked from the north. Olenna Tyrell allied with the invader. Yes, after the "Queen" burned her son and grandson and granddaughter alive. |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Oct 11, 2018 17:27:59 GMT
Olenna Tyrell allied with the invader. Yes, after the "Queen" burned her son and grandson and granddaughter alive. Self-defence requires no justification. The granddaughter was playing her own game with the man who threatened Cersei and Olenna had refused to help. The woman who murdered Cersei's son got what she deserved. |
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Post by shinnickneth on Oct 11, 2018 22:22:33 GMT
Soon she wouldn't be in position of burning people. Jon is going to be the ruler in my opinion. That said the footage shows her killing Lannister army. Don't see how is that different from soldiers killing others. And way better than the Mountain killing poor peasants. The next footage shows her burning the idiot Randyll Tarly. He was given the choice of full pardon. He chose not to avail the choice and paid for it. It isn't different. It wasn't a criticism on my part, but acknowledging that Dany does repeatedly burn people. Hmmmm depends how quick they die, I suppose. For instance, when she kills the Dothraki and the witch by fire, they burn slowly. However, when she has Drogon burn the Lannister forces, their bodes (sometimes) turn instantly to ash, killing them. In terms of Tarly, he had already turned once. He couldn't turn again and have his men respect/follow him. He would be considered a turn-cloak, and might as well be dead at that point. |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Oct 12, 2018 4:42:46 GMT
Soon she wouldn't be in position of burning people. Jon is going to be the ruler in my opinion. That said the footage shows her killing Lannister army. Don't see how is that different from soldiers killing others. And way better than the Mountain killing poor peasants. The next footage shows her burning the idiot Randyll Tarly. He was given the choice of full pardon. He chose not to avail the choice and paid for it. It isn't different. It wasn't a criticism on my part, but acknowledging that Dany does repeatedly burn people. Hmmmm depends how quick they die, I suppose. For instance, when she kills the Dothraki and the witch by fire, they burn slowly. However, when she has Drogon burn the Lannister forces, their bodes (sometimes) turn instantly to ash, killing them. In terms of Tarly, he had already turned once. He couldn't turn again and have his men respect/follow him. He would be considered a turn-cloak, and might as well be dead at that point. Randyll Tarly had not turned. His liege Lord had and he refused to follow. There's an important difference there. "And I shall ask no service of you that might bring you dishonour" - yet Olenna Tyrell was asking such a thing then. Killing "nicely" is still killing. |
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Post by Aj_June on Oct 12, 2018 5:04:00 GMT
It isn't different. It wasn't a criticism on my part, but acknowledging that Dany does repeatedly burn people. Hmmmm depends how quick they die, I suppose. For instance, when she kills the Dothraki and the witch by fire, they burn slowly. However, when she has Drogon burn the Lannister forces, their bodes (sometimes) turn instantly to ash, killing them. In terms of Tarly, he had already turned once. He couldn't turn again and have his men respect/follow him. He would be considered a turn-cloak, and might as well be dead at that point. Randyll Tarly had not turned. His liege Lord had and he refused to follow. There's an important difference there. "And I shall ask no service of you that might bring you dishonour" - yet Olenna Tyrell was asking such a thing then. Killing "nicely" is still killing. What a homer  |
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Post by shinnickneth on Oct 12, 2018 22:54:38 GMT
Killing "nicely" is still killing. Which is why I said her method was no different than the others.  |
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