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Post by Feologild Oakes on Oct 17, 2018 17:16:40 GMT
Chilling Adventures of Sabrina will premier on Netflix on the 26 of October. Are you going to watch it ?
I am going to check it out. Looks like it will be a very different show from Sabrina the Teenage Witch (1996-2003) which i think is a good thing.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Oct 17, 2018 17:59:56 GMT
Yes, I plan to check it out. Hopefully it will be good enough to watch the whole season.
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Post by maxwellperfect on Oct 17, 2018 18:23:04 GMT
Only if they bring back the guy who did Salem's voice in the 90's series.
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Post by pennypacker on Oct 20, 2018 21:07:47 GMT
Yeah, though I'm definitely less interested after seeing the trailer. But I'll still check it out because I've been excited about it since before they confirmed it.
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Post by darkpast on Oct 21, 2018 6:47:50 GMT
will at least watch the pilot
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Post by Nora on Oct 22, 2018 17:10:44 GMT
Only if they bring back the guy who did Salem's voice in the 90's series. sadly in this series Salem will hardly be there AND will not be a talking cat. I will watch the show at least the pilot but I am saddened by the omission of the talking cat and also the old cast of Hilda and Zelda. Caroline Rhea could EASILY be in the show or even Melissa could play one of her aunts. Oh well…. |
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Post by maxwellperfect on Oct 24, 2018 18:20:52 GMT
Only if they bring back the guy who did Salem's voice in the 90's series. sadly in this series Salem will hardly be there AND will not be a talking cat. I will watch the show at least the pilot but I am saddened by the omission of the talking cat and also the old cast of Hilda and Zelda. Caroline Rhea could EASILY be in the show or even Melissa could play one of her aunts. Oh well…. I'm actually fine with them doing their own thing with the characters. I wouldn't expect it to be like the old series and seeing Melissa or one of the other cast members would just seem a distraction to me. |
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Post by Nora on Oct 27, 2018 11:59:32 GMT
not a fan of it too much so far. taking it too dark. also feels like a darker harry potter rip off now somehow. and why is half of then british and half american? and the cousin seems redundant and a bit annoying.
missing old sabrina.
but yes the production value is high and the acting is good. i just wish it was an original series.
also wondering if the producers told Lucy Davis to gain weight. (i do like her a lot)
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Post by Lebowskidoo 🦞 on Oct 27, 2018 13:44:53 GMT
Looking forward to the return of Buffy...uh, I mean Sabrina.  |
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Post by pennypacker on Oct 27, 2018 13:56:10 GMT
I've only finished four episodes so far...
I love that they didn't shy away from the darker elements. I expected them to ease us into it more but they immediately jump into it.
I like Harvey, but her other two mortal friends...not so much. I get it though, her mortal bonds are important to her. I just find it hard to care about what they're doing.
I thought Salem not being a talking cat was going to be a detriment to the show, but I like how they communicate. Him talking would probably ruin the vibe of the show.
Love the cousin, and I wanna learn more about him.
This is superficial as Davis as Hilda is perfect, but her makeup artist needs to step their game up. She's been looking too orange...
I'm trying to see if there are any Riverdale easter eggs, but so far haven't come across anything except a quick reference to Riverdale High.
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Post by Nora on Oct 27, 2018 22:06:27 GMT
This show is my life now. Might be the best premier episode of a show I've ever seen. Some thoughts: 1. Its definitely reminiscent of Riverdale. And in a good way. The production value is high. 2. Sabrina is hot hot hot. The side boob shot in the first episode...oh my god. 😍 3. I like the boyfriend. Ross Lynch is super talented and I'm already looking forward to the inevitable song and dance routines. 4. I like that they're embracing darker elements. I don't know how boundary pushing the show really is, but it feels edgy. It's creepy and dark at times and I dig it. where is the side boob? Also, am i the only one bothered they seem to be ACTUAL Satan worshipers and presented as in any way likable characters? I am on second episode only but i really dont like that aspect. I dont mind darker turns but actual Satan worshiping presented as a good idea of good seeming persons (like Aunt Hilda for example she seems too kind smart and nice to be a Satan worshiper without knowing its a bad idea) seems wrong. Same with saying Satan is exhibition of free will. I honestly dont mind Satan themed shows or characters, like I enjoy Lucifer etc, but they present him as clearly a comical representation plus overall he is more good than anything. But here it seems manipulative and too serious. What are your thoughts on that aspects? PS - I am not religious, i would have the same problem with a Sympathetic yet serious portrait of Hitler. Like I didnt mind Hitler being funny or even somewhat good character in Jay Baruchels Man Seeking Woman but would have a problem with Hitler being portrayed in a serious seeming show where like-able and smart characters are his supporters. |
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Post by darkpast on Oct 27, 2018 22:24:06 GMT
only watched 2 episodes and its boring, far from impressed. you will hate the constant blur effect.
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Post by pennypacker on Oct 27, 2018 22:44:18 GMT
This show is my life now. Might be the best premier episode of a show I've ever seen. Some thoughts: 1. Its definitely reminiscent of Riverdale. And in a good way. The production value is high. 2. Sabrina is hot hot hot. The side boob shot in the first episode...oh my god. 😍 3. I like the boyfriend. Ross Lynch is super talented and I'm already looking forward to the inevitable song and dance routines. 4. I like that they're embracing darker elements. I don't know how boundary pushing the show really is, but it feels edgy. It's creepy and dark at times and I dig it. where is the side boob? Also, am i the only one bothered they seem to be ACTUAL Satan worshipers and presented as in any way likable characters? I am on second episode only but i really dont like that aspect. I dont mind darker turns but actual Satan worshiping presented as a good idea of good seeming persons (like Aunt Hilda for example she seems too kind smart and nice to be a Satan worshiper without knowing its a bad idea) seems wrong. Same with saying Satan is exhibition of free will. I honestly dont mind Satan themed shows or characters, like I enjoy Lucifer etc, but they present him as clearly a comical representation plus overall he is more good than anything. But here it seems manipulative and too serious. What are your thoughts on that aspects? PS - I am not religious, i would have the same problem with a Sympathetic yet serious portrait of Hitler. Like I didnt mind Hitler being funny or even somewhat good character in Jay Baruchels Man Seeking Woman but would have a problem with Hitler being portrayed in a serious seeming show where like-able and smart characters are his supporters. It doesn't bother me more than any other show showing actual God worshipers. Plenty of good, nice, and smart people worship Satan, and they would argue that Satanism is about free will. For a lot of people, it's a good idea. I think it's actually a pretty nuanced depiction, especially with Sabrina resisting it as the show progresses. From what I've seen so far anyway. |
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Post by pennypacker on Oct 28, 2018 17:05:36 GMT
Bronson Pinchot feels miscast in a cast that otherwise feels perfectly cast. I like him, but he's not bringing anything special to his scenes. In my opinion anyway. I'm not sure he even knows who the character is, or what his motivation is supposed to be. Yeah, I finished last night, and I still don't understand what the point of his character was and why he was such a focal point at times. Maybe I missed something... |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2018 3:33:25 GMT
This show is my life now. Might be the best premier episode of a show I've ever seen. Some thoughts: 1. Its definitely reminiscent of Riverdale. And in a good way. The production value is high. 2. Sabrina is hot hot hot. The side boob shot in the first episode...oh my god. 😍 3. I like the boyfriend. Ross Lynch is super talented and I'm already looking forward to the inevitable song and dance routines. 4. I like that they're embracing darker elements. I don't know how boundary pushing the show really is, but it feels edgy. It's creepy and dark at times and I dig it. where is the side boob? Also, am i the only one bothered they seem to be ACTUAL Satan worshipers and presented as in any way likable characters? I am on second episode only but i really dont like that aspect. I dont mind darker turns but actual Satan worshiping presented as a good idea of good seeming persons (like Aunt Hilda for example she seems too kind smart and nice to be a Satan worshiper without knowing its a bad idea) seems wrong. Same with saying Satan is exhibition of free will. I honestly dont mind Satan themed shows or characters, like I enjoy Lucifer etc, but they present him as clearly a comical representation plus overall he is more good than anything. But here it seems manipulative and too serious. What are your thoughts on that aspects? PS - I am not religious, i would have the same problem with a Sympathetic yet serious portrait of Hitler. Like I didnt mind Hitler being funny or even somewhat good character in Jay Baruchels Man Seeking Woman but would have a problem with Hitler being portrayed in a serious seeming show where like-able and smart characters are his supporters. I'm in agreement with this. The show is well done and keeping my interest, but sympathetic satanists feels wrong to me. |
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Post by bess1971s on Oct 29, 2018 16:40:43 GMT
The first episode surprisingly, bec I'm not a big horror fan, caught my interest so I kept watching. I came back later and binged the rest of the episodes. There was one in particular that was downright laughable because the demon had a face that looked like melted Play Doh but the rest of it, esp the last two shows, kept me in my chair.
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Post by Nora on Oct 29, 2018 18:18:22 GMT
where is the side boob? Also, am i the only one bothered they seem to be ACTUAL Satan worshipers and presented as in any way likable characters? I am on second episode only but i really dont like that aspect. I dont mind darker turns but actual Satan worshiping presented as a good idea of good seeming persons (like Aunt Hilda for example she seems too kind smart and nice to be a Satan worshiper without knowing its a bad idea) seems wrong. Same with saying Satan is exhibition of free will. I honestly dont mind Satan themed shows or characters, like I enjoy Lucifer etc, but they present him as clearly a comical representation plus overall he is more good than anything. But here it seems manipulative and too serious. What are your thoughts on that aspects? PS - I am not religious, i would have the same problem with a Sympathetic yet serious portrait of Hitler. Like I didnt mind Hitler being funny or even somewhat good character in Jay Baruchels Man Seeking Woman but would have a problem with Hitler being portrayed in a serious seeming show where like-able and smart characters are his supporters. It doesn't bother me more than any other show showing actual God worshipers. Plenty of good, nice, and smart people worship Satan, and they would argue that Satanism is about free will. For a lot of people, it's a good idea. I think it's actually a pretty nuanced depiction, especially with Sabrina resisting it as the show progresses. From what I've seen so far anyway. wait what, plenty of nice smart and good people worship satan? since when?? free will is about their ability to do so if they chose and i dont have a problem with that but being anactive satanist (in the true sense of the word and the “philosophy” behind it is in direct conflict of being a good (nice and smart are optional) human being - you activelly worship evil and wish for it to materialize in this world. again / this is not a defense of religion of any kind or coming from a religious place - i am an atheist. but whereas people worshiping god (pretty much any god) traditionally aim to bring love and peace to the world (unless they abuse the religion to their twisted ideals) but satanism is in its concept about worshiping evil and dread and intending to cause bring harm upon this world. sure there may be people who call themselves satanists bur are not really maybe they just seek artistic expression or symbolism to play with - thats not what i mean though... |
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Post by pennypacker on Oct 29, 2018 18:38:01 GMT
It doesn't bother me more than any other show showing actual God worshipers. Plenty of good, nice, and smart people worship Satan, and they would argue that Satanism is about free will. For a lot of people, it's a good idea. I think it's actually a pretty nuanced depiction, especially with Sabrina resisting it as the show progresses. From what I've seen so far anyway. wait what, plenty of nice smart and good people worship satan? since when?? free will is about their ability to do so if they chose and i dont have a problem with that but being anactive satanist (in the true sense of the word and the “philosophy” behind it is in direct conflict of being a good (nice and smart are optional) human being - you activelly worship evil and wish for it to materialize in this world. again / this is not a defense of religion of any kind or coming from a religious place - i am an atheist. but whereas people worshiping god (pretty much any god) traditionally aim to bring love and peace to the world (unless they abuse the religion to their twisted ideals) but satanism is in its concept about worshiping evil and dread and intending to cause bring harm upon this world. sure there may be people who call themselves satanists bur are not really maybe they just seek artistic expression or symbolism to play with - thats not what i mean though... I'm not terribly interested in a theological discussion on here, but... Since always? A lot of people merely see Satan as a being of knowledge and beauty. The philosophy behind Satanism does not conflict with being good, because in their eyes God is not good. God is the evil one, and while Satan may not be wholly "good" he is certainly the lesser evil. I'm an atheist as well, and I vehemently disagree that most people who worship God are aiming to bring peace or love to the world. Most Satanists aren't looking to bring upon evil. To them, Satan is a symbol of knowledge, and choices, and and not necessarily abiding by the hypocritical morality that religion breeds. There are those who do worship evil, but most Satanists don't. Granted, most Satanists are atheists, and clearly that's not the case in this show, but like I said, the show is a pretty nuanced depiction anyway. |
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Post by Nora on Oct 29, 2018 18:47:27 GMT
wait what, plenty of nice smart and good people worship satan? since when?? free will is about their ability to do so if they chose and i dont have a problem with that but being anactive satanist (in the true sense of the word and the “philosophy” behind it is in direct conflict of being a good (nice and smart are optional) human being - you activelly worship evil and wish for it to materialize in this world. again / this is not a defense of religion of any kind or coming from a religious place - i am an atheist. but whereas people worshiping god (pretty much any god) traditionally aim to bring love and peace to the world (unless they abuse the religion to their twisted ideals) but satanism is in its concept about worshiping evil and dread and intending to cause bring harm upon this world. sure there may be people who call themselves satanists bur are not really maybe they just seek artistic expression or symbolism to play with - thats not what i mean though... I'm not terribly interested in a theological discussion on here, but... Since always? A lot of people merely see Satan as a being of knowledge and beauty. The philosophy behind Satanism does not conflict with being good, because in their eyes God is not good. God is the evil one, and while Satan may not be wholly "good" he is certainly the lesser evil. I'm an atheist as well, and I vehemently disagree that most people who worship God are aiming to bring peace or love to the world. Most Satanists aren't looking to bring upon evil. To them, Satan is a symbol of knowledge, and choices, and and not necessarily abiding by the hypocritical morality that religion breeds. There are those who do worship evil, but most Satanists don't. Granted, most Satanists are atheists, and clearly that's not the case in this show, but like I said, the show is a pretty nuanced depiction anyway. what you describe is not true/traditional Satanism though but a great example of abuse of the term and religionistic symbols. Satan is traditionally described as a clearly malevolent entity, activelly trying to make people sin and cause harm, representing the dualistic opposition to love and good. unless you ate talking about laveys satanism which is really not a traditional (spanning across centuries) meaning of what satanism is and who satan is. and in sabrina they clearly do not worship laveys non supernatuual idea of “satan” but the traditional one (so far i am on episode 3) |
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Post by pennypacker on Oct 29, 2018 18:55:49 GMT
I'm not terribly interested in a theological discussion on here, but... Since always? A lot of people merely see Satan as a being of knowledge and beauty. The philosophy behind Satanism does not conflict with being good, because in their eyes God is not good. God is the evil one, and while Satan may not be wholly "good" he is certainly the lesser evil. I'm an atheist as well, and I vehemently disagree that most people who worship God are aiming to bring peace or love to the world. Most Satanists aren't looking to bring upon evil. To them, Satan is a symbol of knowledge, and choices, and and not necessarily abiding by the hypocritical morality that religion breeds. There are those who do worship evil, but most Satanists don't. Granted, most Satanists are atheists, and clearly that's not the case in this show, but like I said, the show is a pretty nuanced depiction anyway. what you describe is not true Satanism thoigh but a great example of abuse of a term and religionistic symbols. Sayam is traditionally described as a clearly malevolent entity, activelly trying to make people sin and cause harm, representing the dualistic opposition to love and good. unless you ate talking about laveys satanism which is really not a traditional (spanning across centuries) meaning of what satanism is and who satan is. and in sabrina they clearly do not worship laveys non supernatuual idea of “satan” but the traditional one (so far i am on episode 3) "True" Satanism is objective. Satanists will disagree with your definition. He's "traditionally described as clearly malevolent entity" through the religious lens, and tbh I don't see solid evidence for that either. Religion views God as an entity of love and good, but "good" is subjective. I, as an atheist, and many others (Satanists and otherwise) don't see God as good. I see him as being vindictive, insecure, petty as fuck, and pretty much everything wrong with the world. I admittedly see less of that in Satan. I think in Sabrina they make a good case for why they worship Satan and what their problems with God are. But I do not in any way agree that they're trying to portray Satan worship as a good thing (and for the record, I don't think it's a bad thing anymore than I think God worship is). This becomes more clear the further along you get, if you choose to keep watching. The fucked up rituals and practices and the corruption within the Church of the Night become more and more clear. |
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