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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2018 0:49:49 GMT
Why did neither of these lead to a new series of films?
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Post by James on Oct 24, 2018 1:00:13 GMT
Could be due to the fact they were rushed into production and thus didn’t have the brains to do a follow-up afterwards. They just kind of came and went. Plus, fans of each were pissed off at them (esp that of NOES).
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Post by egon1982 on Oct 24, 2018 14:58:52 GMT
Elm Street was rather a remake than a reboot as it told the same story as the original and that is what a remake is.
A reboot is telling a completely different story like Batman Begins for example was not a remake of the 1989 Batman film but rather it's own completely different story and so is Rise of the Planet of the Apes, Casino Royale and Star Trek being true reboots.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Oct 24, 2018 15:26:38 GMT
Elm Street was rather a remake than a reboot as it told the same story as the original and that is what a remake is. A reboot is telling a completely different story like Batman Begins for example was not a remake of the 1989 Batman film but rather it's own completely different story and so is Rise of the Planet of the Apes, Casino Royale and Star Trek being true reboots. Well, it's also a reboot because that really just means that it's a restart. So any remake, re-do, reimagining, reinterpretation, or re-> whatever other term we wanna use for something that's unoriginal, version of something that is intended to spawn more movies in a franchise is inherently a 'reboot.' |
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Post by Anonymous Andy on Oct 24, 2018 15:44:53 GMT
Elm Street was rather a remake than a reboot as it told the same story as the original and that is what a remake is. A reboot is telling a completely different story like Batman Begins for example was not a remake of the 1989 Batman film but rather it's own completely different story and so is Rise of the Planet of the Apes, Casino Royale and Star Trek being true reboots.  |
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Post by Anonymous Andy on Oct 24, 2018 15:46:53 GMT
Well, the Friday the 13th remake did well in its first weekend but dropped off rather steeply the following week (62% as I recall?). The Elm Street remake landed with a thud. The demand just wasn't there for more movies. The studios just did a quick in and out with both, made some dollars on some old IP they had kicking around and promptly called it a day.
And now that Halloween is blowing up, you can expect more of the same real soon here.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Oct 24, 2018 16:36:33 GMT
Well, the Friday the 13th remake did well in its first weekend but dropped off rather steeply the following week (62% as I recall?). The Elm Street remake landed with a thud. The demand just wasn't there for more movies. The studios just did a quick in and out with both, made some dollars on some old IP they had kicking around and promptly called it a day. And now that Halloween is blowing up, you can expect more of the same real soon here. I don't know that AN Elm Street movie couldn't have done well, I think it had something to do the Platinum Dunes of it all, and that everyone hated that movie. A reasonably not-so-terrible one might have made some money. |
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Post by darkpast on Oct 25, 2018 23:10:23 GMT
NOES did not keep the budget under 20m. F13 did bad overseas.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Oct 26, 2018 5:27:36 GMT
Nightmare remake wasn't bad, but it wasn't good either. JEH did the best he could as Freddy, but in the end, though, Robert Englund is really Freddy and you really can't replace him. Also, the characters are as generic as they come really and the story didn't really add anything new or interesting. It's more or less the same as the original. The only difference is that Freddy is a pedophile in this one rather than a straight-up child killer, but that really wasn't enough though.
I actually really liked the Friday reboot. I went in expecting exactly what we got. Blood, boobs and sex and a guy hacking up people with a machete. Of all the slasher series, Friday has always been, well... the least intellectual one in terms of cinema achievement. Never been an interesting story or interesting character. Jason just a guy who likes to hack up sexy girls. Just dumb scary fun and that's what we got with the reboot, and I actually liked it compared to some of the older ones and would have actually liked a sequel to it.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Oct 26, 2018 16:09:54 GMT
Nightmare remake wasn't bad, but it wasn't good either. JEH did the best he could as Freddy, but in the end, though, Robert Englund is really Freddy and you really can't replace him. Also, the characters are as generic as they come really and the story didn't really add anything new or interesting. It's more or less the same as the original. The only difference is that Freddy is a pedophile in this one rather than a straight-up child killer, but that really wasn't enough though. I actually really liked the Friday reboot. I went in expecting exactly what we got. Blood, boobs and sex and a guy hacking up people with a machete. Of all the slasher series, Friday has always been, well... the least intellectual one in terms of cinema achievement. Never been an interesting story or interesting character. Jason just a guy who likes to hack up sexy girls. Just dumb scary fun and that's what we got with the reboot, and I actually liked it compared to some of the older ones and would have actually liked a sequel to it. I thought the Nightmare remake was about as bad as it could have been. Horrible script, obnoxious shooting style, and truly terrible effects that in some cases looked worse as replicated CGI versions of the effective original and practical approach. Jackie Earle Haley is ok, it's not his fault, but he does nothing to make his version of Freddy interesting. The characters are all completely hollow and completely undeveloped, and the way the story plays out is ineffective and uninvolving. Considering the endless possibilities of the concept, the movie is completely devoid of imagination. I really can't think of much of anything nice to say about it. The Friday the 13th remake is lame, but it is generally a typical Friday the 13th movie. There are stupid, unlikable characters that nobody gives a shit about, creative kills, Jason looking imposing, bobs etc. I don't like it, but I can see how fans give it a passing grade. But I think it's below average in the series. The opening is misguided, why give us a recap of a movie you're not counting? Then there's a second prequel-like sequence that introduces characters and a situation we are lot going to be following the rest of the time, which is lame again. There's bad dialogue and stupid people, but that's all in line with what you'd expect. Mostly I don't like the look of it. I think Marcus Nispel is kind of a shitty, lame director whose music video aesthetic can't help but dominate his movies (And, as an aside, why do all the characters have stupid looking 70s style haircuts? ). But the main thing is that Jason has a torture chamber and has become a weed farmer or some such shit. The torture dungeon is pretty much the opposite of Jason. It really doesn't make sense. This is mean to be a new series and new character I guess, but it doesn't work. It's not that out of place, but I dislike that movie quite a bit. Though, unlike the Nightmare remake, it's at least not the worst of the franchise. |
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