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Post by Vits on Nov 1, 2018 21:34:35 GMT
... are straight-up horror? I ask because it seems like most (if not all) of them mix it with comedy and/or adventure. I guess it's to make sure it's not too intense for children(?)
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Post by Anonymous Andy on Nov 1, 2018 22:01:07 GMT
... are straight-up horror? I ask because it seems like most (if not all) of them mix it with comedy and/or adventure. I guess it's to make sure it's not too intense for children(?) Based on your criteria, I'm not sure what you're looking for. Monster Squad-ish? Poltergeist-esque?
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Post by Vits on Nov 1, 2018 23:19:39 GMT
I've never seen it. I don't think it's for children. It got a PG rating, but as a technicality.
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Post by Anonymous Andy on Nov 1, 2018 23:26:47 GMT
Simply put, I don't think what you're looking for exists.
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Post by Vits on Nov 2, 2018 10:49:37 GMT
Simply put, I don't think what you're looking for exists. That's what I was afraid of.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Nov 2, 2018 12:29:41 GMT
It depends on what you mean by 'for kids.' Child protagonists? What's the age limit for the protagonists to qualify? What's the age linit for the target audience to qualify? Does the rating prohibit it from being 'for kids?' Would IT not count on account of the R rating? Or because its setting is a nostalgic reach for adults who were kids in that time period? Is that too 'adventurey' to be 'straight up' horror? Would a movie like Coraline not count because it's animated or too family friendly to be horror? Does 'straight up horror' need to include violence or graphic imagery? Do you any particular story in mind? Do you have any other specific parameters in mind?
The Monster Squad is a fun horror adjacent kids movie, but hardly a 'straight up' horror film. It's very much like The Goonies but mixed in with the Universal monsters (although they couldn't use the actual Universal designs as it was made by another studio). But while 'straight up horror' might need some clarification, this is a good defining line of what clearly does not qualify.
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Post by Vits on Nov 2, 2018 16:32:24 GMT
What's the age limit for the protagonists to qualify? What's the age linit for the target audience to qualify? Does the rating prohibit it from being 'for kids?' Would a movie like Coraline not count because it's animated or too family friendly to be horror? Does 'straight up horror' need to include violence or graphic imagery? 1) I don't think that changes anything. 2) Let's say 13. 3) Considering that, if the makers and/or the studio edit the movie when they don't like the rating the movie has gotten, I'd say... yes, the rating is attached to who the target audience is meant to be. 4) CORALINE is the perfect example of what I was saying. It's a dark fantasy/adventure/comedy. 5) No, it's not about the content; it's about the tone and atmosphere. It's about how much priority is given to the scares over other elements.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Nov 2, 2018 19:23:16 GMT
What's the age limit for the protagonists to qualify? What's the age linit for the target audience to qualify? Does the rating prohibit it from being 'for kids?' Would a movie like Coraline not count because it's animated or too family friendly to be horror? Does 'straight up horror' need to include violence or graphic imagery? 1) I don't think that changes anything. 2) Let's say 13. 3) Considering that, if the makers and/or the studio edit the movie when they don't like the rating the movie has gotten, I'd say... yes, the rating is attached to who the target audience is meant to be. 4) CORALINE is the perfect example of what I was saying. It's a dark fantasy/adventure/comedy. 5) No, it's not about the content; it's about the tone and atmosphere. It's about how much priority is given to the scares over other elements. Ok. See I would very much consider Coraline to be a horror movie. But I get what you mean more so now about horror vs straigh up horror. To clarify further: I re-submit IT. The new one. My biggest issue with that film is that it was too much of a 'straight up horror movie' as defined here. The narrative and characterization seemed to suffer from emphasizing scares and its villain too much. The movie is very much a scary clown movie when I don't think that's what the book is, really. So would that one count? It was rated R but had child protagonists (right within your cutoff), and did very well with younger audiences. At least in the anecdotal evidence I can attest to, it was a popular one for under age kids to sneak into.
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Post by Vits on Nov 2, 2018 20:06:19 GMT
It was rated R but had child protagonists (right within your cutoff), and did very well with younger audiences. At least in the anecdotal evidence I can attest to, it was a popular one for under age kids to sneak into. But I didn't say that the protagonists have to be children in order for a movie to be targeted at children. The reason why I gave these criteria is because I'm researching about the mentality behind making these movies... so whether children like them or not doesn't making them movies intended for children. By the way, I also know some children who saw IT.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Nov 2, 2018 20:27:49 GMT
It was rated R but had child protagonists (right within your cutoff), and did very well with younger audiences. At least in the anecdotal evidence I can attest to, it was a popular one for under age kids to sneak into. But I didn't say that the protagonists have to be children in order for a movie to be targeted at children. The reason why I gave these criteria is because I'm researching about the mentality behind making these movies... so whether children like them or not doesn't making them movies intended for children. By the way, I also know some children who saw IT. Ok.. so regardless of whether or not the kids are protagonists, does IT fit your criteria or not?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2018 21:01:17 GMT
Watership Down, and The Plague Dogs are two films that at first glance are children's films...
They are full of horror, and traumatising for adults mind.
Very grim😞
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Post by Vits on Nov 3, 2018 18:48:54 GMT
regardless of whether or not the kids are protagonists, does IT fit your criteria or not? I'm afraid not. Watership Down, and The Plague Dogs I've never seen them. I'll look them up.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Nov 3, 2018 19:02:57 GMT
regardless of whether or not the kids are protagonists, does IT fit your criteria or not? I'm afraid not. Watership Down, and The Plague Dogs I've never seen them. I'll look them up. And why?
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Post by Vits on Nov 3, 2018 22:16:32 GMT
It wasn't originally intended for children.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Nov 3, 2018 23:57:51 GMT
It wasn't originally intended for children. Says who? You could argue it was designed to appeal to children as much as adults.
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Post by HorrorMetal on Nov 4, 2018 3:11:56 GMT
I'd say The Monster Squad definitely fits what you're looking for. It's the best example I can think of.
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Post by Vits on Nov 4, 2018 9:30:47 GMT
It got an R rating and they didn't edit it in order to get another rating, which is what they do when they're trying to reach younger viewers. I'd say The Monster Squad definitely fits what you're looking for. It's the best example I can think of. I'll look it up.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Nov 4, 2018 12:53:58 GMT
It got an R rating and they didn't edit it in order to get another rating, which is what they do when they're trying to reach younger viewers. I'd say The Monster Squad definitely fits what you're looking for. It's the best example I can think of. I'll look it up. That's like saying Joe Camel was not appealing to kids. But even then, if that's your only objection that one then the TV miniseries certainly fits your narrow criteria.
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Post by Vits on Nov 4, 2018 16:54:18 GMT
That one has a lot of humour though (yes, I mean intentional).
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Post by masterofallgoons on Nov 4, 2018 17:21:13 GMT
That one has a lot of humour though (yes, I mean intentional). So it also has to be entirely humorless?
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