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Post by drystyx on Nov 22, 2018 3:09:22 GMT
about a lucky man who made the grade.
And though the news was rather sad, well I just had to laugh. I saw the photograph.
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Post by maya55555 on Nov 23, 2018 3:29:59 GMT
drystyx
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Post by mikef6 on Nov 23, 2018 4:00:35 GMT
I have always wondered if the line "He blew his mind out in a car / He hadn't noticed that the lights had changed" was inspired by that great scene in "The Ipcress File" when the British spy was assassinated - shot in the forehead - while waiting at a red light. When the light turned green, cars behind him began to honk. It is a beautifully edited set-piece. The movie was released only two years before Sgt Pepper.
Sorry, looked for the clip to share but couldn't find it.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Nov 23, 2018 4:35:22 GMT
I saw a film today, oh boy. The English Army had just won the war.
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Post by fatpaul on Nov 23, 2018 13:37:51 GMT
Iirc, Paul McCartney wrote the lyrics after reading a newspaper (hence the title) and one of articles was about a local councillor complaining on behalf of his constituents that the roads were in such a state of disrepair that there was enough holes in the roads to fill the Albert Hall. This was an odd turn of phrase as holes by definition are empty space and it is usually empty spaces that gets filled. What the councillor meant was that if you gathered all the holes together it would be as big as the Albert Hall.
The part about blowing minds in cars was about somebody actually committing suicide in his car (I forget who in particular).
The part about the English army winning wars was from a revue article about a film (Zulu, I think!)
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Nov 23, 2018 19:29:40 GMT
Well. actually, the Americans won both World War I and World War II for the English. There are really no winners where war is concerned. The international banks who fund both sides in a war do rather well.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Nov 23, 2018 19:37:47 GMT
Good song, though my favorite is "Ticket to Ride", which inspired one of my favorite Beach Boys songs:
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Post by mikef6 on Nov 24, 2018 2:04:06 GMT
I always thought the "English army had just won the war" was a reference to John Lennon's role in the 1967 black comedy film "How I Won The War."
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Post by fatpaul on Nov 24, 2018 3:18:15 GMT
I always thought the "English army had just won the war" was a reference to John Lennon's role in the 1967 black comedy film "How I Won The War." It may have been, I'm just recalling memory and my memory isn't that great to be truthful. I remember the bit about potholes more.
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Post by Stammerhead on Nov 24, 2018 7:24:21 GMT
I saw a film today, oh boy. The English Army had just won the war. Well. actually, the Americans won both World War I and World War II for the English. That's the Falklands and it was the British army. Sometimes it helps to avoid taking lyrics too literally.
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Post by Stammerhead on Nov 24, 2018 8:00:44 GMT
That's the Falklands and it was the British army. Sometimes it helps to avoid taking lyrics too literally. The Falklands War was in the 80's, not 1960's. That's long after the song was written. I'm talking about the song, not the pic. The song does not mention what war it was.
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Post by Morgana on Nov 24, 2018 10:19:48 GMT
I saw a film today, oh boy. The English Army had just won the war. Well. actually, the Americans won both World War I and World War II for the English. Yeah, right. American hubris knows no bounds.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Nov 24, 2018 16:39:36 GMT
The Falklands War was in the 80's, not 1960's. That's long after the song was written. I'm talking about the song, not the pic. The song does not mention what war it was. I was looking for a pic from the Gulf War but could not find one I liked. The one from the Falklands War was there and it did the job nicely. The Union Jack was prominent and there was a noticeable impression of victory, wouldn't you say? Since it's the English Army and not the British Army referred to in the song, the world is left to wonder which war he is singing about. The Jacobite Rebellion maybe? Or maybe it does really mean the British Army since the English are in control of it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2018 16:51:02 GMT
Up the RA 🇮🇪
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Nov 24, 2018 18:11:01 GMT
The song does not mention what war it was. It was written 20 years after World War II. It's obvious he was singing about "The Big One". Yes, it's a great example of Lennon's snide acumen. But there were no cars to crash in the Jacobite Rebellion. He could have more accurately replaced "The English Army" with "The Allied Forces" without interfering in the cadence of the song. And Morgana , we're talking about English hubris here. He said he saw a film, and it seems to be implied that the film was about the English Army winning a war. I thought maybe it was this one. The Battle of CullodenIt's just speculation on my part. We'll probably never know for sure.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Nov 24, 2018 18:49:33 GMT
He said he saw a film, and it seems to be implied that the film was about the English Army winning a war. I thought maybe it was this one. The Battle of CullodenIt's just speculation on my part. We'll probably never know for sure. Okay, good point. It could be any war and the Brits conquered half the world so they fought more than a few of them. I withdraw my objection. No probs, Gameboy.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Nov 24, 2018 19:18:10 GMT
No probs, Gameboy. I'm actually very pro-British and believe the world would be better off if the British Empire had never been disbanded. I hope Morgana understands that. People think I'm crazy (and maybe I am), but in the last several years I've been taking a second look at history, and I'm at least receptive to the idea that the rise and fall of empires were part of a larger game. You've got to admit that USS Maine sunk at a very convenient time and place for the United States. And if the Spanish had refused to let the Maine enter Havana Harbor, what then? Would that have been an act of war? If so, the Spanish Empire was damned if it did and damned if it didn't. My 11th grade history teacher said that some of the credit for the US winning the Spanish-American War must go to the British, because the Germans were about to intercede on Spain's behalf, but the British backed them down. I don't know where he got that from. Many years later I tried to find something about it on the Internet and struck out. In the 1960's there was something of an anti-empire feeling in Britain, and it was reflected (if not programmed) in the films and music of the time.
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Post by Stammerhead on Nov 24, 2018 23:20:50 GMT
The song does not mention what war it was. It was written 20 years after World War II. It's obvious he was singing about "The Big One". Yes, it's a great example of Lennon's snide acumen. But there were no cars to crash in the Jacobite Rebellion. He could have more accurately replaced "The English Army" with "The Allied Forces" without interfering in the cadence of the song. And Morgana , we're talking about English hubris here. So why did the people turn away? I saw a film today, oh boy The English Army had just won the war A crowd of people turned away But I just had to look Having read the book
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Post by fatpaul on Nov 25, 2018 2:18:45 GMT
Well I'm fucking depressed now as I realise that my post beforehand was a load of bollocks and that my memory is crap. Here what Wikipedia says about A Day in the Life
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Post by koskiewicz on Nov 25, 2018 18:00:51 GMT
"Happiness is a warm gun..."
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