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Post by Cody™ on Nov 23, 2018 8:12:33 GMT
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Post by goz on Nov 23, 2018 8:35:28 GMT
COULD you be any more stupid? Any comparison of these two cases are TOTALLY inaccurate and ridiculous. 1.'Sydney-terrorist-Ahmed-Merhi' is an ISIS operative who, if not hung in Sydney would be behind bars had be not escaped to Iran. He is not our problem. 2. The Christian idiot who was killed in the Andaman Islands knew of the risks and weighed them against the law(prohibition to visit these islands), the known risks of injury or death from the native people who had BOTH made it clear that they wished no European disease borne Christian people to bother them AND the fact that he thought that his fake religious opinion/beliefs would protect him in spite of the breaking of the secular and moral laws of the area. |
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Post by progressiveelement on Nov 23, 2018 10:27:32 GMT
Yup.
This is you to a tee.
Muslims can only be villains. This particular individual you refer to is not one to lose sleep over, he chose to follow a path where the likelihood of death was an inescapable risk. Perhaps he should have thought of that before joining his fellow jihadists.
Christians can only be victims, can only be the ones who are right, can do no harm at all. This particular individual, like yourself, evidently did not believe in respecting views other than his own, he put himself on the usual unearned pedestal, put his faith and needs ahead of common sense, and died a death only slightly less comical than the Judean People's Front's Suicide Squad. The moment he decided to invade their land and push his beliefs on those it was made clear were off-limits to visitors FOR A GOOD FUCKING REASON, his days of living were inevitably shortened quite drastically.
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Post by phludowin on Nov 23, 2018 12:11:34 GMT
The Christian missionary deserved to be executed just as much as this guy. For once, I agree with you. I'm against the death penalty, but when a terrorist or missionary dies while doing their job, I don't waste too many tears over them. |
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Post by Cody™ on Nov 23, 2018 12:34:39 GMT
The Christian missionary deserved to be executed just as much as this guy. For once, I agree with you. I'm against the death penalty, but when a terrorist or missionary dies while doing their job, I don't waste too many tears over them. That’s it keep parading your inane stupidity. |
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Post by phludowin on Nov 23, 2018 13:11:53 GMT
For once, I agree with you. I'm against the death penalty, but when a terrorist or missionary dies while doing their job, I don't waste too many tears over them. That’s it keep parading your inane stupidity. If there is inane stupidity in my post, you should be able to point it out rationally, without personal insults or logical fallacies. And if you can't, then maybe you shouldn't confuse windows with mirrors. |
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Post by Cody™ on Nov 23, 2018 14:02:14 GMT
That’s it keep parading your inane stupidity. If there is inane stupidity in my post, you should be able to point it out rationally, without personal insults or logical fallacies. And if you can't, then maybe you shouldn't confuse windows with mirrors. So to you there’s no difference between those sharing their faith with others and those who actively set out to murder scores of innocent bystanders? Both deserve the same amount of sympathy. That’s not a shock. After all you see pro-lifers to be on the same level as SS officers and child and animal abusers. You don’t seem to know the meaning of the word rationality. |
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Post by progressiveelement on Nov 23, 2018 15:49:54 GMT
If there is inane stupidity in my post, you should be able to point it out rationally, without personal insults or logical fallacies. And if you can't, then maybe you shouldn't confuse windows with mirrors. So to you there’s no difference between those sharing their faith with others and those who actively set out to murder scores of innocent bystanders? Both deserve the same amount of sympathy. That’s not a shock. After all you see pro-lifers to be on the same level as SS officers and child and animal abusers. You don’t seem to know the meaning of the word rationality. Rationality would be to not preach to people declared off-limits.
There are similar tribes in Brazil - a largely Christian nation - who are declared off-limits. Those who haven't been run off by the razing of rain forests. A census taker attempting to approach one tribe got an arrow through the heart for his troubles.
Hell, there are tribes in Brazil who DO venture out, but for one purpose only - Guns. There are people willing to hand them guns, and train them in how to use them, so they can defend their little patch from unwanted outsiders.
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Post by phludowin on Nov 23, 2018 16:29:34 GMT
So to you there’s no difference between those sharing their faith with others and those who actively set out to murder scores of innocent bystanders? As far as I'm concerned, jihadists and missionaries do both. I'm a consequentialist; therefore I consider the results of actions more important than the intent. And as I and others already pointed out on the other thread, and which you conveniently ignored: Missionaries have spread diseases among remote tribes, and caused genocide with an efficiency that makes Osama Bin Laden look like an amateur. So in this case there's not much difference between jihadists and missionaries. Both deserve the same amount of sympathy. Exactly. Both claimed to do humanitarian work, and both had no problem with committing mass murder. The missionary knew that the tribe was off-limit, and was vulnerable to disease; yet he still chose to go there. That's close to terrorism. That’s not a shock. After all you see pro-lifers to be on the same level as SS officers and child and animal abusers. Which has nothing to do with the topic being discussed on this thread. Apparently you are unable or unwilling to refute arguments without ad hominems. Which means: You don’t seem to know the meaning of the word rationality. Indeed. You don't seem to. |
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Post by goz on Nov 23, 2018 20:33:43 GMT
If there is inane stupidity in my post, you should be able to point it out rationally, without personal insults or logical fallacies. And if you can't, then maybe you shouldn't confuse windows with mirrors. So to you there’s no difference between those sharing their faith with others and those who actively set out to murder scores of innocent bystanders? Both deserve the same amount of sympathy. That’s not a shock. After all you see pro-lifers to be on the same level as SS officers and child and animal abusers. You don’t seem to know the meaning of the word rationality. Are you seriously calling the actions of the missionary merely 'sharing his faith with others' under all the known circumstances of him being TOTALLY aware of the risk of death for himself and death by disease of countless other innocents? What made him do this, was EXACTLY what Islamic (and other religious fundamentalist groups like your own) do in acts of religious terrorism 'Oh butt we only wanted to share our religion.' As previously pointed out, the missionary proposed to do it by invading the disease free sanctuary of these people hence 'actively set out to murder scores of innocent bystanders', just as you accuse Muslim terrorists. Your double standard is breathtaking. Missionaries set out to 'convert' others often by force in just exactly the same way as other fundamentalist terrorist groups so are hence classified in the same way, and by rational argument can deserve the same 'punishment'/outcome. |
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