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Post by Doctor Omega on Dec 4, 2018 14:05:47 GMT
Regardless of the gender debate....
Do you think that the wrong actress was chosen for the role?
There were claims that she "aced" it in her audition...
But has she "aced it" for you on the screen yet?
Are you team Jodie...?
Or not?
Please explain your choice.....
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Post by Doctor Omega on Dec 4, 2018 14:07:14 GMT
I am going to go with miscast....
As I posted elsewhere.....
I think the Doctor, whatever the gender, is completely miscast. Can we really believe that there is 2000 years of wisdom behind those eyes and that Yorkshire accent?
Or that she could ever have been born on the planet Gallifrey?
Jodie's performance, also, seems to me to too easily fall back on a series of mannerisms and pulled faces.
Add to that a huge lack of presence and charisma, to the point where the companions have to collectively point out that she is in charge and I think this was a huge mistake in casting.
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Post by Larcen26 on Dec 4, 2018 16:33:10 GMT
Perfectly cast.
I disagree with each of your points almost completely...
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Post by mikef6 on Dec 4, 2018 17:35:53 GMT
She is quite wonderful. The "pointing out that she is in charge" is entirely ABOUT her being/looking like a woman and therefore to be ignored or disregarded. Several of the times, the other people in the story will turn to Graham - the white male - first for leadership. Is "miscast" code for "Bradley Walsh should have had the part"?
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Post by stargazer1682 on Dec 7, 2018 22:38:39 GMT
I'd say that generally the Doctor is never assumed to be the person in charge of any given situation. He/she will just take the reigns when the circumstances call for it; some recognize that he knows what he's talking about and follow him, but there are always those who don't and usually end up paying the price for it.
I wouldn't say Jodie was miscast, but I do find myself still waiting for that moment where everything clicks and she feels like the Doctor. I had the same feeling about Capaldi though, his Doctor was also rather uneven and it was a long time before he clicked - pretty much right after Clara left. And dynamic between the Doctor and the companions is arguably a very important component. It's been so long with the others that I don't fully recall when they all clicked with me as the Doctor; I think Eccleston took a couple of episodes, even though he was my first exposure to Doctor Who, there was still a settling in period. I believe Tennant took a few episodes to completely accept him as the new Doctor. I want to say Matt managed to win me over right away, but I don't remember for certain. I know for Matt it was his ability to simultaneously be so young, yet convey a sense of much deeper age and the weight of that, that won me over.
I think the main thing with Jodie though is the writing, or more accurately the character development or the lack of same. Jodie's Doctor hasn't been given much in the way of her own identity to build on, but instead seems to rely heavily on an amalgamation of past iterations and their characterizations. While not quite as garish, her costume has made me think of 5's patchwork outfit. I feel like there's a touch of 9's manic personality, but it lacks the weight of being "the last time lord" or thinking he'd killed his own people.
Now that I think about it, what might be missing most is the Doctor's arrogance; which is sort of an odd thing to say, I know, but the Doctor is generally the smartest person in the room and knows it. Normally that's not a positive trait, but with the Doctor it's generally well deserved. Calpadi's Doctor had it in spades, perhaps even to a fault. Jodie's Doctor sort of takes her knowledge for granted, and even at times assumes that everyone else knows what she knows...
I still would have liked to have seen Hayley Atwell as the Doctor, but Jodie isn't the end of the world; and would still rather see them find a way to make her iteration of the Doctor a success.
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Post by Doctor Omega on Jan 6, 2019 14:50:24 GMT
I was hoping that she would be equal and opposite to the Dalek in their confrontation. She just wasn't getting there imo, lacking the necessary gravitas to convincingly match even a scrapyard version of the Doctor's oldest enemy.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2019 13:39:23 GMT
I think she's great. Need to see her in a really great episode or two to be sure, but I think she will wind up as one of my favourite Doctors.
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Post by randalgraves on Mar 3, 2019 10:55:45 GMT
Doctor who...the hell cares. This show is dead. Ratings dropped each week and will continue with Jodie and Chinballs running things.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Jun 27, 2019 1:23:13 GMT
I don`t have a problem with Jodie as the Doctor, but i do have a problem with the awful writing of series 11
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Post by Doctor Omega on Jul 11, 2019 21:55:57 GMT
Jodie doesn't care about any polls and posted this response to selected critics before her first episode had aired.....
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Post by Doctor Omega on Jul 21, 2019 18:10:59 GMT
I think one thing that irks me is that she never really researched the character and - to my knowledge - deliberately never watched a frame of Classic Who, which she dismissed entirely as "celebrating the white male gaze".
At least Matt Smith dipped into the rich past of the show and fell in love with Troughton's Doctor after a viewing of TOMB OF THE CYBERMEN. It also yielded his bow tie, swiped from Troughton.
But Jodie? Nope.
It seems that the Classic show was beneath her.
And, consequently, I feel that this lack of research is reflected in her shaky performance.
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Post by Doctor Omega on Aug 7, 2019 15:56:42 GMT
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Post by bluerisk on Aug 24, 2019 0:15:06 GMT
I tried one episode (Demons from Punjab?!) and gave up after ten minutes.
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Post by michaellevenson on Aug 24, 2019 13:06:57 GMT
The whole idea of a female Doctor is absurd and finally killed my interest in Nu Who. The Doctor regenerates, that means organs that are failing or have failed for whatever reason, natural or not, are renewed. Regeneration doesn't include creating new organs, or body parts out of zilch, breasts , uterus, genitalia etc. Whittaker herself is okay but the role has been totally rewritten for a female lead, it doesn't work. All we need now is Romana back as a man.
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Post by Doctor Omega on Aug 25, 2019 22:55:23 GMT
The whole idea of a female Doctor is absurd and finally killed my interest in Nu Who. The Doctor regenerates, that means organs that are failing or have failed for whatever reason, natural or not, are renewed. Regeneration doesn't include creating new organs, or body parts out of zilch, breasts , uterus, genitalia etc. Whittaker herself is okay but the role has been totally rewritten for a female lead, it doesn't work. All we need now is Romana back as a man. It does, indeed, open up numerous cans of stupid worms. Susan now a man? Did she mention the possibility to David? Leela waking up to her beloved Andred, only to find that he now looks like Barbara Windsor? I actually think that the BBC realise that they have made a dreadful mistake and are - even as we speak - as eager to end this ridiculous era, as many of the viewers and ex-viewers who are, just as eagerly, waiting for it to end.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Sept 8, 2019 17:35:23 GMT
I think a female doctor was unnecessary and there was no need to change the gender of the Doctor. But it don`t actually have a problem with it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2019 18:36:51 GMT
I think a female doctor was unnecessary I never understood the use of this word. The Doctor is unnecessary in every possible variation, from first to last. The show as a whole doesn't have to exist.
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Post by Doctor Omega on Oct 12, 2019 23:43:21 GMT
The whole idea of a female Doctor is absurd and finally killed my interest in Nu Who. The Doctor regenerates, that means organs that are failing or have failed for whatever reason, natural or not, are renewed. Regeneration doesn't include creating new organs, or body parts out of zilch, breasts , uterus, genitalia etc. Whittaker herself is okay but the role has been totally rewritten for a female lead, it doesn't work. All we need now is Romana back as a man. Yes, the whole gender-swap was silly imo. And I wonder if she will be the last ever female Doctor - or not?
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Post by Sarge on Oct 14, 2019 3:10:46 GMT
Nothing about the sequence of doctor's made sense. Following 2 war weary soldiers with a young boy then an old man then a woman was too random. I quit during Capaldi. I'm sure he's a fine actor but his characterization didn't make sense following Smith who was a rebirth and new start from the war weary Eccleston/ Tennant. Capaldi acted like a lonely old man whose children don't visit. I've never seen the girl and never will.
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