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Post by joekiddlouischama on Feb 18, 2019 10:51:02 GMT
to be fair alot of it came off a tad sentimental and tawdry, you could tell his son influenced the project. I enjoyed watching it and it was enjoyable and entertaining and I agree about the tawdry sentimentality. I also thought it was a tad glib and also cliched.
It is a warm film nonetheless and very well performed and presented.
Since it is essentially a comedy, I would say that Green Book does not suffer greatly form those arguable flaws. Had it represented a full-fledged drama, those aspects would have proved more problematic.
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Post by joekiddlouischama on Feb 18, 2019 11:45:27 GMT
Since it is essentially a comedy, I would say that Green Book does not suffer greatly form those arguable flaws. Had it represented a full-fledged drama, those aspects would have proved more problematic. I beg to differ. I never went into the film with the notion of it being a comedy and found it to be largely presented as a drama with some humorous moments born out of the situation. The comedy tag attributed to this film is a bit of a deceit, unless one wants to see it as a dramedy, but this doesn't appear fitting either to my mind. I am not going to make it out to be something that it isn't. I checked up that it won the best comedy\musical category film Golden Globes, but these awards are a joke in themselves.
The final impression I have walked away with, is that it is a film that appears to just be floating, rather than being properly grounded or anchored.
My sense of Green Book being a comedy does not stem from any preconceived notions or the categorization of the Golden Globes. There are plenty of deeply dramatic aspects to the movie, and I have no issue with one considering Green Book more a drama than a comedy. But I would suggest that the film is a comedy at its core or in its soul, a road movie/race comedy, if you will. What just occurred to me is that I would analogize Green Book to one of the seminal films in American history: The Defiant Ones (Stanley Kramer, 1958), starring Tony Curtis and Sidney Poitier. Of course the plots are quite different, but in the end, both movies feature a white man and a black one learning to live with one another as they journey across time and space in a segregated society. But whereas The Defiant Ones is certainly a drama, Green Book offers a comedic variation on this biracial motif.
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Post by hi224 on Feb 18, 2019 13:27:25 GMT
I am happy its not winning screenplay.
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Post by hi224 on Feb 19, 2019 4:12:21 GMT
I am happy its not winning screenplay. If it does score a win and it is a favorite here, it would be for Mahershala Ali only. He was very good and I have only seen the mumbly Sam Elliot in ASIS out of the other support noms. But because he is Sam Elliot and is old, he could be a dark horse. at this juncture Ali has it locked, Elliott needed SAG or BAFTA.
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Post by joekiddlouischama on Feb 19, 2019 10:11:11 GMT
The insipid Driving Miss Daisy was also considered comedy in some aspects, which this film reminded me off, but reverse gender. The humor in both films was light and easygoing, which tempered the more pronounced dramatic aspects of the story. Green Book also wasn't really black comedy. It reminded me of Moonstruck in some tonal aspects, but that would be the ethnic background of the family and Moonstruck was more decided about its origins, as a romantic comedy.
Overall though, I think Green Book could be a keeper in the long run, even if I personally feel it could have been a bit edgier.
... and the reverse racially as well. ... no, definitely not. ... certainly a fair assessment. I do not believe that the Academy nominated any of the very best American films from the past year, and it hardly nominated any "very good" ones in my view. But of its choices among US movies, Green Book might be the best. I would argue that it possesses a sense of clarity and emotional truth that most of the other nominees lack.
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Post by joekiddlouischama on Feb 26, 2019 8:25:27 GMT
... and the reverse racially as well. ... no, definitely not. ... certainly a fair assessment. I do not believe that the Academy nominated any of the very best American films from the past year, and it hardly nominated any "very good" ones in my view. But of its choices among US movies, Green Book might be the best. I would argue that it possesses a sense of clarity and emotional truth that most of the other nominees lack. May I please ask what your choices are here. Your pov is always interesting to me joekid.... You "get" film and always make lucid and valid arguments from your own perception and can explain why something works and something doesn't. ... certainly. Actually, since the Academy Awards season is now finished, I will start a "best of 2018" thread in this forum sometime this week that will include my choices.
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