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Post by Prime etc. on Apr 27, 2019 1:55:45 GMT
I see criticism about how Thor was handled--but what did they expect? No way Disney is going to let that character be presented in a positive fashion. Wiki says this is the first MCU film to have an openly gay character in one scene.
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Post by Nora on Apr 27, 2019 2:32:29 GMT
Theft is taking people from their home and forcing them to work for free for generations and never compensating them or their descendants. Watching a mediocre movie for free is at worst a waste of time. I've also seen a second movie for free numerous times at the theater but only paid for one. Next you'll try and say that's theft too. I also carry in my own snacks. Do I deserve the death penalty? 1. no thats kidnapping not theft and re compensation i hope you realize black people are not the only ones who have been through something like this.should we compensate everybody whos descendants were enslaved? why not. as long as we are consitent. 2. yes thats theft too 3. no. just a fine and maybe some prison time depending on how often you do pirate movies etc. I struggle to believe you mean what you write, sis. you occasionally exhibit some intelligence so this must be trolling. Certainly you dont define theft based on “were the people who made it already paid or not”. if you do i guess you would be ok and wouldnt call it theft if with someone took your car without tour persmission. since when you bought it you indirectly paid people who made it. Right? The stories and theories people create to justify stealing copyrighted material thats really something. You str, you know its illegal, so you gotta be able to live with that, sis.
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Post by poelzig on Apr 27, 2019 5:43:38 GMT
1. no thats kidnapping not theft and re compensation i hope you realize black people are not the only ones who have been through something like this.should we compensate everybody whos descendants were enslaved? why not. as long as we are consitent. 2. yes thats theft too 3. no. just a fine and maybe some prison time depending on how often you do pirate movies etc. I struggle to believe you mean what you write, sis. you occasionally exhibit some intelligence so this must be trolling. Certainly you dont define theft based on “were the people who made it already paid or not”. if you do i guess you would be ok and wouldnt call it theft if with someone took your car without tour persmission. since when you bought it you indirectly paid people who made it. Right? The stories and theories people create to justify stealing copyrighted material thats really something. You str, you know its illegal, so you gotta be able to live with that, sis. In your example my car was PHYSICALLY removed from me. It's not returned. It's most likely sold or at least the parts are.When watching a streaming movie that movie may have been paid for as far as you or I know. I don't have a physical copy of that movie either. I don't make money off of it. If I didn't stream it free I wouldn't watch it or I would wait for cable. You are a "critic" you have never seen a free movie? I have lots of friends. Several of them do or have worked in theaters. The night before a movie opens after the theater closes the print is ran to make sure there are no issues with the print. Dozens of times I have watched the test screening. Are the people watching that test screening thieves? Are you and other critics thieves for watching free movies? Is it only considered theft by you when someone other than you does it or is it just me you have issues with? As far as trolling, I just read one of your posts where you said Roman Polanski was not a bad person even tho he gave a 12 year old child drugs and booze and then had sex with her. You are cool with raping a child which Polanski by definition and by law DID no matter how pedos want to spin it but you continue to harass me for watching a streaming video in my home?!!!! Are you trolling or are you such a warped freak you think watching a free movie is worse than raping a pre teen child? I don't have the time or inclination to point out the people I'm "stealing" from i.e. the films producers regularly cheat the actors and writers and directors out of their points. I guess like child rapist Polanski you give them a free pass, right? We both know it irritates you that I point out that you're a bigot instead of fawning over you because you happen to be female. Also you are crushing on me hard. Get over it sis and just enjoy my awesomeness. Despite your obvious hopes there is no Mandingo thing happening in our future.
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Post by hi224 on Apr 27, 2019 15:01:19 GMT
So it was average.
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Post by bluerisk on Apr 27, 2019 18:00:26 GMT
loved it loved it loved it loved it Do they reverse what happened in the last movie?
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Post by Marendil on Apr 27, 2019 18:25:49 GMT
loved it loved it loved it loved it Do they reverse what happened in the last movie? Kind of, not exactly. The best part is how they do it, not that it gets done
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Post by Nora on Apr 27, 2019 20:43:00 GMT
what?? you were not highly entertained? and liked the other Avengers movies better perhaps? To me this was such a great and satisfying experience...
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Post by hi224 on Apr 27, 2019 20:56:55 GMT
what?? you were not highly entertained? and liked the other Avengers movies better perhaps? To me this was such a great and satisfying experience... Nope.
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Post by Nora on Apr 27, 2019 22:00:06 GMT
what?? you were not highly entertained? and liked the other Avengers movies better perhaps? To me this was such a great and satisfying experience... Nope. anything more to add, what disappinted you or what you viewed as average. The storytelling, the acting, the visuals, all of it?
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Post by hi224 on Apr 27, 2019 22:24:09 GMT
anything more to add, what disappinted you or what you viewed as average. The storytelling, the acting, the visuals, all of it? It's atypical marvel visuals and tripe as well. I will say Downey was on form here actually.
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Post by Nora on Apr 28, 2019 0:24:09 GMT
I believe we are just too spoilt. here you are just having watched a 3 hour movie, that cost an incredible amount of money and it Shows on the result, the production value and visuals are state of art, not you average cgi shit, with an ensemble mixed of various Oscar winners and multiple Oscar nominated actors (say what you may about oscars, but next to commercial success of films its another pretty good indicator of the actors talent) so you know you got some top talent in front of the camera:
Winners: Paltrow, Douglas, Larson, Tilda Swinton (Marisa Tomei, Lupita Nyongo) Mulitple Nominated: Mark Ruffalo, Robert Downey Jr, Benedict Cumberbatch, Bradley Cooper, (Robert Redford, Samuel Jackson, Natalie Portman, Angela Basset), Jeremmy Renner, Josh Brolin, Don Cheadle
In a movie directed and written by emmy winning and comrecially incredibly sucessful guys who worked on some of the funniest comedy series out there.
Music by the great Alan Silvestri and with an incredible DP and an army of exceptionally talented people working on the visual and sound effects.
Who together deliver 3 hours that feel like 90 minutes (whatever bad thjings people had to say I didn't see or hear anyone say it was boring or stupid or very predictable) and we say it was an average film.
If this is average, the world is pretty great.
Mind you, the superhero genre is not my favorite genre and I wasnt a fan of some of the previous Avenger movies and certainly not of Cpt America movies, I am morw of Thor and Guardians of Gallaxy fan, but this movie was so well put together, and so successfully closes off a dozen of story lines and character journey that I am really in aaw. Well well done. it was a joyride, it was easy to follow yet unpredictable for most part, it had a lot of humor and was packed with emotions that didn't feel forced, it was visually beautiful and cleverly peaced together. Not average in my book at all.
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Post by Skaathar on Apr 28, 2019 1:30:37 GMT
I see criticism about how Thor was handled--but what did they expect? No way Disney is going to let that character be presented in a positive fashion. Wiki says this is the first MCU film to have an openly gay character in one scene. What do you mean? Do you think Disney has something against Thor's original character?
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Post by Prime etc. on Apr 28, 2019 2:03:25 GMT
What do you mean? Do you think Disney has something against Thor's original character?
He's supposed to be a Scandinavian strong man type. Hollywood has been antagonistic to that kind since at least Doc Savage: The Man of Bronze if not much longer. This is why they don't give him any serious action part. In the comic he had the crippled doctor half of him originally, so it kind of made up for that heroic independence (since Tony Stark and Steve Rogers are in some way compromised too-both rely on science for their power----Thor has the hammer but it wasn't his only source of power and it was originally natural magic. I guess making him an alien wasn't enough.
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Post by bluerisk on Apr 28, 2019 10:53:55 GMT
I see criticism about how Thor was handled--but what did they expect? No way Disney is going to let that character be presented in a positive fashion. Wiki says this is the first MCU film to have an openly gay character in one scene. What do you mean? Do you think Disney has something against Thor's original character? He is white and male. They made the new ruler of the Asgard people (the ones from the Nordic folklore) a black woman, and the original Captain America (now an old man) was allowed to hand over his shield to the new Black Captain America. SJW to the max.
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Post by faustus5 on Apr 28, 2019 12:14:34 GMT
So long as they are making people like you mad, I'm overjoyed.
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Post by Nora on Apr 28, 2019 13:24:45 GMT
What do you mean? Do you think Disney has something against Thor's original character? He is white and male. They made the new ruler of the Asgard people (the ones from the Nordic folklore) a black woman, and the original Captain America (now an old man) was allowed to hand over his shield to the new Black Captain America. SJW to the max. yeah that bugged me a bit too. not that they were black people holding these positions but that it (especially with Cpt America) it seemed motivated by pandering to social agenda. felt it was not story driven but social justicie driven to me. Maybe I am wrong and he did the same thing in a comic too, but thats the way it felt to me. forced. Same with a lot of other movies. There is like 12% of black people in the USA yet from some of the more recent movies shows and commercial it seems its 50/50 at best, if not more. Again, if it was like that in reality I wouldnt mind, but this is just obscuring reality. I get that there were decaded where minorities had minimal to no representation in media. And that was wrong too. But this seems to go to the other extreme. And its not just complete fiction. We are literally changing history in historical movies to fit with the current social clima. Not the best decision to try and rewrite our history by lies, even when it does something good like create more roles for minorities. lets at least stick to fictional stories and worlds. Wakanda forever.
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Post by bluerisk on Apr 28, 2019 13:35:31 GMT
So long as they are making people like you mad, I'm overjoyed. Don't be worried, I haven't pay a single cent.
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Post by movieliker on Apr 28, 2019 23:47:36 GMT
I'll see it whenever there is a good free stream of it for me to watch illegally. I rarely will stream the crappy cam versions. I definitely won't pay to see it. We all know what will happen, right? Too late to change the formula now. so you are ok with theft? In my opinion, the ticket prices to watch it at a theater are theft. The actors, producers, directors, etc. all make millions. Meanwhile I cannot afford to go to a theater. Its not theft. Its justice.
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Post by movieliker on Apr 28, 2019 23:54:40 GMT
What do you mean? Do you think Disney has something against Thor's original character? He is white and male. They made the new ruler of the Asgard people (the ones from the Nordic folklore) a black woman, and the original Captain America (now an old man) was allowed to hand over his shield to the new Black Captain America. SJW to the max. And at one point it was all female superheroes against the minions fighting for Thanos.
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Post by Nora on Apr 28, 2019 23:56:35 GMT
so you are ok with theft? In my opinion, the ticket prices to watch it at a theater are theft. The actors, producers, directors, etc. all make millions. Meanwhile I cannot afford to go to a theater. Its not theft. Its justice. come on. i understand you may feel the world is not fair or its somehow unjust. but if you illegally download/stream a move its still ilegal, even if u feel you jave some kind of moral ground. in which case do u (if you do do that) only steal movies that made more than 3 times its busget? to be reasonably sure people got paid and you are not jist taking away money from another poor bloke? and do you apply this moral filter on other areas of your life and only pay for what you believe is not “theft” by having too high of a asking price or making other people money? i dont steal other peoples property for multiole reasons. a) o dont think stealing is ok, b) i know its illegal and i dont want o do any ilegal thigs, c) i am a content creator myself i cannot participate in something that i see activelly hirts people around me in the industry I am in. I would hope any/every true film fan sees it the same way. especially these days when renting a movie is a few bucks and seeing a matinee is under 10 usd. its not like in the old tines of expensive vhs and dvds and limited options to rent things. these days people have So Many free or very cheap and legal options to watch good content. Why steal?
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