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Post by movieliker on Apr 29, 2019 0:02:39 GMT
In my opinion, the ticket prices to watch it at a theater are theft. The actors, producers, directors, etc. all make millions. Meanwhile I cannot afford to go to a theater. Its not theft. Its justice. come on. i understand you may feel the world is not fair or its somehow unjust. but if you iklegally download/stream a move its still ilegal, even if u feel you jave some kind of moral ground. in which case do u (if you do do that) only steal movies that made more than i3 times its busget? to be reasonably sure people got paid and you are not jist taking away money from anothe poor bloke? and do you apply this moral filter on other areas of your life and only pay for what you believe is not “theft” by having too high of a asking price or making other people money? i dont steal other peoples property for multiole reasons. a) o dont think stealing is ok, b) i know its illegal and i dont want o do any ilegal thigs, c) i am a content creator myself i cannot participate in something that i see activelly hirts people around me in the industry I am in. I would hope any/every true film fan sees it the same way. especially these days when renting a movie is a few bucks and seeing a matinee is under 10 usd. its not like in the old tines of expensive vhs and dvds and limited options to rent things. these days people have So Many free or very cheap and legal options to watch good content. Why steal? Its not stealing. Anymore than actors getting paid millions to be famous while pretending to work hard. I work hard and I struggle to get by. Stealing would be charging others to watch a pirate copy. But me taking advantage of free streaming on a jailbroken firestick is just as fair as movie producers making millions while charging struggling common folk 15 dollars to go to a movie theater. I bought my TV. I pay for WiFi. I bought the firestick. Too bad for them. POOR LITTLE HOLLYWOOD MILLIONAIRES !!!
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Post by Nora on Apr 29, 2019 0:06:54 GMT
come on. i understand you may feel the world is not fair or its somehow unjust. but if you iklegally download/stream a move its still ilegal, even if u feel you jave some kind of moral ground. in which case do u (if you do do that) only steal movies that made more than i3 times its busget? to be reasonably sure people got paid and you are not jist taking away money from anothe poor bloke? and do you apply this moral filter on other areas of your life and only pay for what you believe is not “theft” by having too high of a asking price or making other people money? i dont steal other peoples property for multiole reasons. a) o dont think stealing is ok, b) i know its illegal and i dont want o do any ilegal thigs, c) i am a content creator myself i cannot participate in something that i see activelly hirts people around me in the industry I am in. I would hope any/every true film fan sees it the same way. especially these days when renting a movie is a few bucks and seeing a matinee is under 10 usd. its not like in the old tines of expensive vhs and dvds and limited options to rent things. these days people have So Many free or very cheap and legal options to watch good content. Why steal? Its not stealing. Anymore than actors getting paid millions to be famous while pretending to work hard. I work hard and I struggle to get by. Stealing would be charging others to watch a pirate copy. But me taking advantage of free streaming on a jailbroken firestick is just as fair as movie producers making millions while charging struggling common folk 15 dollars to go to a movie theater. I bought my TV. I pay for WiFi. I bought the firestck. Too bad for them. POOR LITTLE HOLLYWOOD MILLIONAIRES !!! sorry to burst your bubble. its still stealing. the only way it wouldnt be stealing is if the owner of it allowed you to view it the way you do, without paying for it. you dont need to charge people, you viewing somethinng that was stolen to begin with is still illegal. and you know it. you just have diferent personal morals that somehow justify it in your world...
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Post by movieliker on Apr 29, 2019 0:22:15 GMT
Its not stealing. Anymore than actors getting paid millions to be famous while pretending to work hard. I work hard and I struggle to get by. Stealing would be charging others to watch a pirate copy. But me taking advantage of free streaming on a jailbroken firestick is just as fair as movie producers making millions while charging struggling common folk 15 dollars to go to a movie theater. I bought my TV. I pay for WiFi. I bought the firestick. Too bad for them. POOR LITTLE HOLLYWOOD MILLIONAIRES !!! sorry to burst your bubble. its still stealing. the only way it wouldnt be stealing is if the owner of it allowed you to view it the way you do, without paying for it. you dont need to charge people, you viewing somethinng that was stolen to begin with is still illegal. and you know it. you just have diferent personal morals that somehow justify it in your world... Yeah, well guess what? I speed, run red lights and stop signs --- sometimes. Too bad. Technically I was already a criminal before WiFi ever came out. I am not obsessed with following the law. The law is a general rule to keep order. But specifically individuals need to use common sense to figure out what is fair and just, and what isn't. Nobody is suffering from my traffic violations or streaming pirated copies of newly released movies off the Internet. Movie makers making millions off financially struggling common folk is not fair. Me using a network constructed by thousands to level the playing field is justified balance. If it's good for the goose, it's good for the gander. If they are going to screw us . . .
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Post by Prime etc. on Apr 29, 2019 0:59:38 GMT
You should really be talking about stealing something valuable. A movie like this, I mean, it's the equivalent of a deflated flotation toy. Yeah you can use it in the water but not for much.
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Post by movieliker on Apr 29, 2019 1:32:28 GMT
You should really be talking about stealing something valuable. A movie like this, I mean, it's the equivalent of a deflated flotation toy. Yeah you can use it in the water but not for much. I agree. I was just wondering what all the hubbub was about.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Apr 29, 2019 19:38:24 GMT
I watched the movie today. I enjoyed it but i don`t think its the best MCU movie. Personally i enjoyed Winter Solider, Civil War and Infinity War more.
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Post by Nora on Apr 29, 2019 21:14:59 GMT
I struggle to believe you mean what you write, sis. you occasionally exhibit some intelligence so this must be trolling. Certainly you dont define theft based on “were the people who made it already paid or not”. if you do i guess you would be ok and wouldnt call it theft if with someone took your car without tour persmission. since when you bought it you indirectly paid people who made it. Right? The stories and theories people create to justify stealing copyrighted material thats really something. You str, you know its illegal, so you gotta be able to live with that, sis. In your example my car was PHYSICALLY removed from me. It's not returned. It's most likely sold or at least the parts are.When watching a streaming movie that movie may have been paid for as far as you or I know. I don't have a physical copy of that movie either. I don't make money off of it. If I didn't stream it free I wouldn't watch it or I would wait for cable. You are a "critic" you have never seen a free movie? I have lots of friends. Several of them do or have worked in theaters. The night before a movie opens after the theater closes the print is ran to make sure there are no issues with the print. Dozens of times I have watched the test screening. Are the people watching that test screening thieves? Are you and other critics thieves for watching free movies? Is it only considered theft by you when someone other than you does it or is it just me you have issues with? As far as trolling, I just read one of your posts where you said Roman Polanski was not a bad person even tho he gave a 12 year old child drugs and booze and then had sex with her. You are cool with raping a child which Polanski by definition and by law DID no matter how pedos want to spin it but you continue to harass me for watching a streaming video in my home?!!!! Are you trolling or are you such a warped freak you think watching a free movie is worse than raping a pre teen child? I don't have the time or inclination to point out the people I'm "stealing" from i.e. the films producers regularly cheat the actors and writers and directors out of their points. I guess like child rapist Polanski you give them a free pass, right? We both know it irritates you that I point out that you're a bigot instead of fawning over you because you happen to be female. Also you are crushing on me hard. Get over it sis and just enjoy my awesomeness. Despite your obvious hopes there is no Mandingo thing happening in our future. Dont worry, understanding written text is not simple for many people, so no need to struggle further. I accept your limitations without judgement. Anyway, I highly recommend watching the Engame, its known to make people feel better.
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Post by movieliker on Apr 29, 2019 22:07:07 GMT
I watched the movie today. I enjoyed it but i don`t think its the best MCU movie. Personally i enjoyed Winter Solider, Civil War and Infinity War more. The Avenger movies are entertaining. But I personally think "Alita; Battle Angel" is a better movie. Better writing, better dialogue and better action.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Apr 29, 2019 23:17:05 GMT
I watched the movie today. I enjoyed it but i don`t think its the best MCU movie. Personally i enjoyed Winter Solider, Civil War and Infinity War more. The Avenger movies are entertaining. But I personally think "Alita; Battle Angel" is a better movie. Better writing, better dialogue and better action. Ok
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Post by Nora on Apr 30, 2019 1:07:38 GMT
I watched the movie today. I enjoyed it but i don`t think its the best MCU movie. Personally i enjoyed Winter Solider, Civil War and Infinity War more. The Avenger movies are entertaining. But I personally think "Alita; Battle Angel" is a better movie. Better writing, better dialogue and better action. if i was to evaluate it as a stand alone against stand alone i would agree. alita was better. but the endgame quality was mostly how it tied all these other stories. so to me That tops it becaue you go in already loving like a dozen characters from it, as opposed to falling love with new ones in alita.
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Post by movieliker on Apr 30, 2019 1:45:40 GMT
The Avenger movies are entertaining. But I personally think "Alita; Battle Angel" is a better movie. Better writing, better dialogue and better action. if i was to evaluate it as a stand alone against stand alone i would agree. alita was better. but the endgame quality was mostly how it tied all these other stories. so to me That tops it becaue you go in already loving like a dozen characters from it, as opposed to falling love with new ones in alita. So, if I understand you, we both agree the writing, dialogue and action is better in Alita than any Avenger movie. As far as bringing all those different characters and stories together, I never found any of the individual Avenger characters or stories interesting. I respect if you liked the culmination. But that did absolutely nothing for me.
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Post by Nora on Apr 30, 2019 2:10:30 GMT
if i was to evaluate it as a stand alone against stand alone i would agree. alita was better. but the endgame quality was mostly how it tied all these other stories. so to me That tops it becaue you go in already loving like a dozen characters from it, as opposed to falling love with new ones in alita. So, if I understand you, we both agree the writing, dialogue and action is better in Alita than any Avenger movie. As far as bringing all those different characters and stories together, I never found any of the individual Avenger characters or stories interesting. I respect if you liked the culmination. But that did absolutely nothing for me. yes I think we agree. except GoG, Thor Ragnarok and Engame had more humor than Alita which is something I really like. For me the Engames main power was that I already knew all the characters and like most of them and was hesvily invested in their success from the beginning, since I knew what problem they needed to address, from a year ago. I think that really was the biggest magic of it for me. its like watching a finale of a slightly above average sitcom that you enjoy watching and watched for some time and now in the finale you know they will finally solve the “will the/wont they”. you know? so you go in already excited and into the characters and if they do it well and tie the stories well it scores extra emotional points, that a new show (almost no mater how good) simply cannot. Alita was Very Very good in my book, but not brilliant like perhaps i dont know, the first blade runner, which is a 10 in my book whereas Alita is 8.5-9 and Engame is solid 8 but carrying an emotional load of an almost perfect 10. Not sure this wil make sense to anyone other than me but it makes perfect sense in my head and my heart.
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Post by poelzig on Apr 30, 2019 2:58:01 GMT
In your example my car was PHYSICALLY removed from me. It's not returned. It's most likely sold or at least the parts are.When watching a streaming movie that movie may have been paid for as far as you or I know. I don't have a physical copy of that movie either. I don't make money off of it. If I didn't stream it free I wouldn't watch it or I would wait for cable. You are a "critic" you have never seen a free movie? I have lots of friends. Several of them do or have worked in theaters. The night before a movie opens after the theater closes the print is ran to make sure there are no issues with the print. Dozens of times I have watched the test screening. Are the people watching that test screening thieves? Are you and other critics thieves for watching free movies? Is it only considered theft by you when someone other than you does it or is it just me you have issues with? As far as trolling, I just read one of your posts where you said Roman Polanski was not a bad person even tho he gave a 12 year old child drugs and booze and then had sex with her. You are cool with raping a child which Polanski by definition and by law DID no matter how pedos want to spin it but you continue to harass me for watching a streaming video in my home?!!!! Are you trolling or are you such a warped freak you think watching a free movie is worse than raping a pre teen child? I don't have the time or inclination to point out the people I'm "stealing" from i.e. the films producers regularly cheat the actors and writers and directors out of their points. I guess like child rapist Polanski you give them a free pass, right? We both know it irritates you that I point out that you're a bigot instead of fawning over you because you happen to be female. Also you are crushing on me hard. Get over it sis and just enjoy my awesomeness. Despite your obvious hopes there is no Mandingo thing happening in our future. Dont worry, understanding written text is not simple for many people, so no need to struggle further. I accept your limitations without judgement. Anyway, I highly recommend watching the Engame, its known to make people feel better. Actually you ARE judging me. You're judging the fact I stream movies for free. I try to accept your limitations but they are limitless. Let's do this, you keep supporting pedophiles and looking the other way when CHILDREN are drugged and raped. I'll keep streaming movies I don't think are worthy of $10 for free. My conscience is clear. Hows yours? Anyway when I get around to watching Endgame I'll let you know what I thought. In the meantime, moedig kinderen niet lastig.
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Post by movieliker on Apr 30, 2019 3:30:08 GMT
So, if I understand you, we both agree the writing, dialogue and action is better in Alita than any Avenger movie. As far as bringing all those different characters and stories together, I never found any of the individual Avenger characters or stories interesting. I respect if you liked the culmination. But that did absolutely nothing for me. yes I think we agree. except GoG, Thor Ragnarok and Engame had more humor than Alita which is something I really like. For me the Engames main power was that I already knew all the characters and like most of them and was hesvily invested in their success from the beginning, since I knew what problem they needed to address, from a year ago. I think that really was the biggest magic of it for me. its like watching a finale of a slightly above average sitcom that you enjoy watching and watched for some time and now in the finale you know they will finally solve the “will the/wont they”. you know? so you go in already excited and into the characters and if they do it well and tie the stories well it scores extra emotional points, that a new show (almost no mater how good) simply cannot. Alita was Very Very good in my book, but not brilliant like perhaps i dont know, the first blade runner, which is a 10 in my book whereas Alita is 8.5-9 and Engame is solid 8 but carrying an emotional load of an almost perfect 10. Not sure this wil make sense to anyone other than me but it makes perfect sense in my head and my heart. I wasn't talking about any of the Marvel movies except the three Avenger movies. I liked the first Avenger movie. But the second two for me were just ridiculous. I am happy you liked Endgame. I thought the first Avenger movie had a good balance of seriousness, drama, action and humor. But the humor in the second two was corney and forced. And the bickering between superheroes was just aggravating. I actually felt sad when the Black Widow killed herself. But although I love the idea of the Iron Man suit, the Tony Stark character portrayed by Robert Downey Jr. was so annoying I was didn't care when he died. I understand where you are coming from. But everybody is different. Your experience is and was not mine.
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Post by Nora on Apr 30, 2019 14:03:48 GMT
Dont worry, understanding written text is not simple for many people, so no need to struggle further. I accept your limitations without judgement. Anyway, I highly recommend watching the Engame, its known to make people feel better. Actually you ARE judging me. You're judging the fact I stream movies for free. I try to accept your limitations but they are limitless. Let's do this, you keep supporting pedophiles and looking the other way when CHILDREN are drugged and raped. I'll keep streaming movies I don't think are worthy of $10 for free. My conscience is clear. Hows yours? Anyway when I get around to watching Endgame I'll let you know what I thought. In the meantime, moedig kinderen niet lastig. great, hope you enjoy Endgame, its a good movie. i wish you didnt steal it but what can I do...
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Post by Nora on Apr 30, 2019 14:06:09 GMT
yes I think we agree. except GoG, Thor Ragnarok and Engame had more humor than Alita which is something I really like. For me the Engames main power was that I already knew all the characters and like most of them and was hesvily invested in their success from the beginning, since I knew what problem they needed to address, from a year ago. I think that really was the biggest magic of it for me. its like watching a finale of a slightly above average sitcom that you enjoy watching and watched for some time and now in the finale you know they will finally solve the “will the/wont they”. you know? so you go in already excited and into the characters and if they do it well and tie the stories well it scores extra emotional points, that a new show (almost no mater how good) simply cannot. Alita was Very Very good in my book, but not brilliant like perhaps i dont know, the first blade runner, which is a 10 in my book whereas Alita is 8.5-9 and Engame is solid 8 but carrying an emotional load of an almost perfect 10. Not sure this wil make sense to anyone other than me but it makes perfect sense in my head and my heart. I wasn't talking about any of the Marvel movies except the three Avenger movies. I liked the first Avenger movie. But the second two for me were just ridiculous. I am happy you liked Endgame. I thought the first Avenger movie had a good balance of seriousness, drama, action and humor. But the humor in the second two was corney and forced. And the bickering between superheroes was just aggravating. I actually felt sad when the Black Widow killed herself. But although I love the idea of the Iron Man suit, the Tony Stark character portrayed by Robert Downey Jr. was so annoying I was didn't care when he died. I understand where you are coming from. But everybody is different. Your experience is and was not mine. I was really annoyed by Tony in Ironman 3, it went too far with his adhd/arrogance I felt. in this one they brought it down again thus I liked him more. Black Widow was never my favorite, I like Scarlet Witch much better from women.
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Post by movieliker on Apr 30, 2019 15:56:56 GMT
I wasn't talking about any of the Marvel movies except the three Avenger movies. I liked the first Avenger movie. But the second two for me were just ridiculous. I am happy you liked Endgame. I thought the first Avenger movie had a good balance of seriousness, drama, action and humor. But the humor in the second two was corney and forced. And the bickering between superheroes was just aggravating. I actually felt sad when the Black Widow killed herself. But although I love the idea of the Iron Man suit, the Tony Stark character portrayed by Robert Downey Jr. was so annoying I was didn't care when he died. I understand where you are coming from. But everybody is different. Your experience is and was not mine. I was really annoyed by Tony in Ironman 3, it went too far with his adhd/arrogance I felt. in this one they brought it down again thus I liked him more. Black Widow was never my favorite, I like Scarlet Witch much better from women. I don't agree about them bringing down the annoyance factor of Tony in Endgame. The way he fought with Captain America was just as bad as his fighting with Doctor Strange in Infinity War. It's just so un-superhero. The whole reason they lost the Infinity War was because Starlord went off on Thanos, when the other superheroes almost had his Infinity Stone glove off. Once again, not very superhero of him. The only two Avengers I ever really cared about were Black Widow and the Hulk. The others were just annoying like Tony Stark and Thor. Or just plain uninteresting like Captain America and Hawkeye. I am no expert on all the Marvel superheroes. So the plethora in Endgame either meant nothing to me. Or it was just plain confusing. I liked Wanda Maximoff. I didn't even know the name Scarlet Witch. (Apparently Michelle Pfeiffer was in Endgame as the Wasp. Who is that? I don't remember seeing her.) What happened to Nick Fury, Maria and Jarvis/Vision in Endgame? They didn't bring them back when the Universe was restored?
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Post by sostie on Apr 30, 2019 22:41:14 GMT
I was really annoyed by Tony in Ironman 3, it went too far with his adhd/arrogance I felt. in this one they brought it down again thus I liked him more. Black Widow was never my favorite, I like Scarlet Witch much better from women. (Apparently Michelle Pfeiffer was in Endgame as the Wasp. Who is that? I don't remember seeing her.) She's the original Wasp.. .she was at the funeral, as were Fury & Maria The "snap" was undone. Neither Jarvis (I take it you mean AI Jarvis and not the actual Jarvis) or Vision were "killed" by the snap so they didn't come back
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Post by Nora on May 1, 2019 2:42:05 GMT
just talked to my friend who is a critic and he only gabe Wngame 5/10 because he didnt like that Earth was shown as so devastated and people didnt move on, to him that didnt make sense as he believes a) earth would prosper more with less people and b) people wouldve moved on byin a few years. there would be new baseball teams etc . i kinda see his point but i still stick to my high score since i enjoyed it so much.
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Post by movieliker on May 1, 2019 6:30:08 GMT
(Apparently Michelle Pfeiffer was in Endgame as the Wasp. Who is that? I don't remember seeing her.) She's the original Wasp.. .she was at the funeral, as were Fury & Maria The "snap" was undone. Neither Jarvis (I take it you mean AI Jarvis and not the actual Jarvis) or Vision were "killed" by the snap so they didn't come back Thanks.
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