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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Dec 13, 2018 3:53:20 GMT
Not worth it, really. Tell me what you think.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Dec 13, 2018 14:05:37 GMT
Not worth it, really. Tell me what you think. After watching this and Jon snow story I can tell one main difference between the two characters one believes is good (Jon snow) , Emilia not once says Dany is good and I also think that's for a reason , watching the early scenes makes me miss the Dany I really liked but I think her madness was starting to show slowly even all the back at season 1 it's nice to see Emilia admit that she did kill her brother she didn't stop khal because she wanted him out , by then she had control of khal and knew whatever she asked of him he would do it for her and I can swear I posted something similar a while back that emilia agrees with Dany slowly build her armies dragons drothraki and has a Lannister too that was very important she helps people only to serve her further in power Jon helps people without asking anything or power over anyone . |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Dec 13, 2018 15:00:55 GMT
I felt she conveniently avoided casting shade on the character, even when it was obvious. She calls Mirri a witch when the story makes a point of not being that clear about it. Mirry is a healer and she resorts to blood magic on Daenerys' explicit demand. Then she's talking nonsense about "trying to stop Drogo's pain" when he clearly didn't feel anything. Daenerys killed him to stop her own pain at the very least.
She's also talking more nonsense about the pyre at the end of S1. Daenerys knows what she's doing in that moment, she even tells Jorah not to worry but Emilia Clarke says she's taking chances. To me it seems she never cared to understand the character in the first place. That's why I say it's not worth watching.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Dec 13, 2018 16:14:09 GMT
Oh, it seems the stories have all been removed from YouTube. I thought it wouldn't last…
I suppose they are somewhere on the HBO site but I couldn't find them.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Dec 15, 2018 21:45:07 GMT
Oh, it seems the stories have all been removed from YouTube. I thought it wouldn't last… I suppose they are somewhere on the HBO site but I couldn't find them. Good think you shared the links and we got to read them , probably HBO reported the users and they took them down |
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Dec 15, 2018 21:52:19 GMT
I felt she conveniently avoided casting shade on the character, even when it was obvious. She calls Mirri a witch when the story makes a point of not being that clear about it. Mirry is a healer and she resorts to blood magic on Daenerys' explicit demand. Then she's talking nonsense about "trying to stop Drogo's pain" when he clearly didn't feel anything. Daenerys killed him to stop her own pain at the very least. She's also talking more nonsense about the pyre at the end of S1. Daenerys knows what she's doing in that moment, she even tells Jorah not to worry but Emilia Clarke says she's taking chances. To me it seems she never cared to understand the character in the first place. That's why I say it's not worth watching. Maybe we can cut her some slack could be she is told this about her character (D&D) and repeats it . its true even on the show Dany came across as bossy ordering mirry to cure or perform magic on khal and she was honest told her not to come in the tent and then stupid jorah picked her up and went there she ruined the magic , or maybe there is no magic and mirry was playing her all along to save her life and went along with her orders , maybe this is why she called her mad in the books ,she knew what she was bargained but then she burned mirry anyway a life for a life so she can bring her dragons to life . I would like to point out this is another thing Jon and Dany do NOT have a common with believing in magic even though Jon was brought back to life supposedly with the help of melissandre he is still skeptical doesn't believe it but Dany no questions ask she welcomes all of it , just like stannis I can see her sacrificing something for power. |
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Dec 16, 2018 3:26:35 GMT
I would like to point out this is another thing Jon and Dany do NOT have a common with believing in magic even though Jon was brought back to life supposedly with the help of melissandre he is still skeptical doesn't believe it but Dany no questions ask she welcomes all of it , just like stannis I can see her sacrificing something for power. Jon is very strange. He knows dragonglass can kill White Walkers but never asks where to find any. He finds out Valyrian steel does to and brushes it off, not even trying to get more. Anyone with a brain would make dragonglass arrowheads and train special units. Jon doesn't. Jon sees "magic" and leaves it aside. He is all about getting everyone together to the slaughter, like a WWI general throwing more men into trenches in hope the other side will die out faster. At first, I thought Jon was the exemplary dumb hero, like Siegfried. "Stupid but brave", as Ygritte was made to say. Now I wonder if he is just the authors' way of showing how mindless war comes into being, with those driving it making a display of good honest intentions without realising they are the cause for disaster themselves. It fits with Jon causing the Night King to acquire a dragon and the means to pass the Wall. I won't be surprised if this is part of GRRM's plan. |
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Dec 17, 2018 19:42:30 GMT
I would like to point out this is another thing Jon and Dany do NOT have a common with believing in magic even though Jon was brought back to life supposedly with the help of melissandre he is still skeptical doesn't believe it but Dany no questions ask she welcomes all of it , just like stannis I can see her sacrificing something for power. Jon is very strange. He knows dragonglass can kill White Walkers but never asks where to find any. He finds out Valyrian steel does to and brushes it off, not even trying to get more. Anyone with a brain would make dragonglass arrowheads and train special units. Jon doesn't. Jon sees "magic" and leaves it aside. He is all about getting everyone together to the slaughter, like a WWI general throwing more men into trenches in hope the other side will die out faster. At first, I thought Jon was the exemplary dumb hero, like Siegfried. "Stupid but brave", as Ygritte was made to say. Now I wonder if he is just the authors' way of showing how mindless war comes into being, with those driving it making a display of good honest intentions without realising they are the cause for disaster themselves. It fits with Jon causing the Night King to acquire a dragon and the means to pass the Wall. I won't be surprised if this is part of GRRM's plan. could be Leo , there is no question dany lost a dragon because of jon , they send for her help and she went defying tyrions request not to if more dragons fall because of jon and then he rejects dany top of it all that will be a breaking point for her but i think jon from early on was to be the good hearted guy innocent in some ways , he was thinking joining the nights watch and all would be just fine and dandy , just like sansa thought marrying a prince going to kings landing was going to be flowers and roses for her and for both turned out something different , i really have no defense for jons actions S6 war against ramsey i think it was suicide if it wasnt for sansa they all would have been slaughtered, i think writers were delaying jon making dragonglass so he can meet with the dragon queen so he can ask it from her . |
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