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Post by anthonyrocks on Dec 13, 2018 14:46:00 GMT
We already saw that match at "SUMMERSLAM" back in 2002.
I would much rather see Brock Lesnar fight somebody that he hasn't fought before.
Of course having said that, if he absolutely must fight somebody for the title and that person he has indeed already fought in a match before then I think that it should really be AJ Styles.
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Dec 13, 2018 21:12:18 GMT
There's a lot of stuff people are saying against part timers, but that's exactly their advantage: they are not being made to look like idiots by the worst written tv show since Nitro went under. No one can possibly take Ambrose, Balor, Rollins or Ziggler seriously because they are made to look like geeks, idiots and losers on a weekly basis. Brock and The Rock are legit because they are not on that horrible fucking show.
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Post by Nike316 on Dec 13, 2018 21:58:53 GMT
I'll take The Rock vs Brock Lesnar because their star power has risen since the last time they wrestled each other, and the match could also be in honor of Roman Reigns.
I just don't wanna see them wrestle for the Raw Universal Championship.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 0:53:14 GMT
We already saw that match at " SUMMERSLAM" back in 2002. I would much rather see Brock Lesnar fight somebody that he hasn't fought before. Of course having said that, if he absolutely must fight somebody for the title and that person he has indeed already fought in a match before then I think that it should really be AJ Styles. I'm surprised you're not trying to convince us that it should be Brock Lesnar vs Ronda Rousey at this point.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 0:58:29 GMT
I'll take The Rock vs Brock Lesnar because their star power has risen since the last time they wrestled each other, and the match could also be in honor of Roman Reigns. I just don't wanna see them wrestle for the Raw Universal Championship. Exactly. I have zero problem with the match happening but I'm not interested in it being for the belt. I'd have the same issue if The Undertaker was wrestling for the belt. Rock vs Brock would be the marque match somebody like Vince McMahon would get rock hard over. I always go back to an old time wrestling thought. What does a match like that benefit from by being for the Universal Championship? Nothing. It's a star match on it's own. Instead add the strap to a match that could actually benefit from it. People that will actually be on RAW the night after WrestleMania and defend it at the next PPV. I like having Brock around but I've just gotten sick of him being the Champion.
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Dec 14, 2018 2:09:54 GMT
I don't really go with a match being "too big for the title." Outside a retirement match, there shouldn't be any match bigger than your world title because that should be the most important prize in your company. Ambrose and Rollins are fueding right now over the exact title they should be given their positions. If you have the same two guys fueding for your top title it just cheapens that title.
However if The Rock is willing to come out of retirement and go through 29 other men for a shot at the dominant monster champion, that tells me that the world title is exactly as important as it should be.
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Post by anthonyrocks on Dec 14, 2018 2:33:51 GMT
We already saw that match at " SUMMERSLAM" back in 2002. I would much rather see Brock Lesnar fight somebody that he hasn't fought before. Of course having said that, if he absolutely must fight somebody for the title and that person he has indeed already fought in a match before then I think that it should really be AJ Styles. I'm surprised you're not trying to convince us that it should be Brock Lesnar vs Ronda Rousey at this point. What The Heck is Your Problem!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 6:27:39 GMT
I'm surprised you're not trying to convince us that it should be Brock Lesnar vs Ronda Rousey at this point. What The Heck is Your Problem! It seriously just seems like you have a hard time posting on this board without some sort of love letter in regards to Ronda Rousey. So I feel that my statement was justified after such a suggestion you had of Cena vs Rousey being a good idea. Only seemed like a logical conclusion that you would jump to this being a match that should happen down the road considering she fits the "nobody that Brock has faced before." I mean hell, in your own words you say that last years WrestleMania "proved" that she can hang with the guys. What makes my statement so out of reach for something that you would suggest? I was simply surprised.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Dec 14, 2018 14:22:27 GMT
I don't really go with a match being "too big for the title." Outside a retirement match, there shouldn't be any match bigger than your world title because that should be the most important prize in your company. Ambrose and Rollins are fueding right now over the exact title they should be given their positions. If you have the same two guys fueding for your top title it just cheapens that title. However if The Rock is willing to come out of retirement and go through 29 other men for a shot at the dominant monster champion, that tells me that the world title is exactly as important as it should be. Not necessarily "bigger" than the title, but certainly not needing the title. The first Wrestlemania main event. Rock vs Hogan is another good example. Rock vs Cena 1 is also a good example. Some matches don't need a title to sell.
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Post by anthonyrocks on Dec 14, 2018 14:42:54 GMT
I don't really go with a match being "too big for the title." Outside a retirement match, there shouldn't be any match bigger than your world title because that should be the most important prize in your company. Ambrose and Rollins are fueding right now over the exact title they should be given their positions. If you have the same two guys fueding for your top title it just cheapens that title. However if The Rock is willing to come out of retirement and go through 29 other men for a shot at the dominant monster champion, that tells me that the world title is exactly as important as it should be. I don't think The Rock would actually go through 29 other men, I think that he would probably be the Surprise Number 30 Entrant and just have to eliminate 5 or 6 men and that is it.
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Post by DC-Fan on Dec 14, 2018 19:36:21 GMT
I don't really go with a match being "too big for the title." Outside a retirement match, there shouldn't be any match bigger than your world title because that should be the most important prize in your company. Ambrose and Rollins are fueding right now over the exact title they should be given their positions. If you have the same two guys fueding for your top title it just cheapens that title. However if The Rock is willing to come out of retirement and go through 29 other men for a shot at the dominant monster champion, that tells me that the world title is exactly as important as it should be. I don't think The Rock would actually go through 29 other men, I think that he would probably be the Surprise Number 30 Entrant and just have to eliminate 5 or 6 men and that is it. No, it's already been decided that #30 in the Royal Rumble will be either Jinder Mahal or R-Truth.
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Post by anthonyrocks on Dec 14, 2018 19:41:44 GMT
I don't think The Rock would actually go through 29 other men, I think that he would probably be the Surprise Number 30 Entrant and just have to eliminate 5 or 6 men and that is it. No, it's already been decided that #30 in the Royal Rumble will be either Jinder Mahal or R-Truth. LOL, Well I do like R-Truth.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2018 8:00:04 GMT
I don't think The Rock would actually go through 29 other men, I think that he would probably be the Surprise Number 30 Entrant and just have to eliminate 5 or 6 men and that is it. No, it's already been decided that #30 in the Royal Rumble will be either Jinder Mahal or R-Truth. It's gonna be R-Truth and just watch R-Truth because he's always confused and it's SUPER FUNNY /s will try and enter the Womans rumble at #30.
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Dec 15, 2018 9:58:23 GMT
In fairness to R-Truth's WWE career, I think he deserved better than one PPV main event at Capital Punishment. But it isn't going to be a rumble highlight having him come in at 30.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2018 10:37:59 GMT
In fairness to R-Truth's WWE career, I think he deserved better than one PPV main event at Capital Punishment. But it isn't going to be a rumble highlight having him come in at 30.I think that they are doing this on purpose. No hype about who #30 will be so the crowd won't boo whoever #30 will be. They have made the #30 spot a comedy spot so fans wont revolt in the same sense as #30 being a mystery.
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Post by anthonyrocks on Dec 15, 2018 14:06:14 GMT
No, it's already been decided that #30 in the Royal Rumble will be either Jinder Mahal or R-Truth. It's gonna be R-Truth and just watch R-Truth because he's always confused and it's SUPER FUNNY /s will try and enter the Womans rumble at #30. LOL, I liked it at that 1 " ROYAL RUMBLE" where R-Truth thought that the Rumble Match was also a Ladder Match.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Dec 16, 2018 12:31:50 GMT
I don't really go with a match being "too big for the title." Outside a retirement match, there shouldn't be any match bigger than your world title because that should be the most important prize in your company. Ambrose and Rollins are fueding right now over the exact title they should be given their positions. If you have the same two guys fueding for your top title it just cheapens that title. However if The Rock is willing to come out of retirement and go through 29 other men for a shot at the dominant monster champion, that tells me that the world title is exactly as important as it should be. Not necessarily "bigger" than the title, but certainly not needing the title. The first Wrestlemania main event. Rock vs Hogan is another good example. Rock vs Cena 1 is also a good example. Some matches don't need a title to sell. Exactly. You add the title stip/prop to sell the match, not the other way around.
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Post by hoskotafe3 on Dec 16, 2018 20:38:37 GMT
Nah, don't agree. If you're regularly having your top title contested between two upper mids third match on the card, then it won't mean anything pretty quickly. And the state RAW is in, the Universal Title needs a marquee match like this a lot more than it needs geeks like Rollins or Balor trying to win it.
In fairness Rollins can posdibly still be salvaged. Way too late for Finn.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2018 4:46:02 GMT
Nah, don't agree. If you're regularly having your top title contested between two upper mids third match on the card, then it won't mean anything pretty quickly. And the state RAW is in, the Universal Title needs a marquee match like this a lot more than it needs geeks like Rollins or Balor trying to win it. In fairness Rollins can posdibly still be salvaged. Way too late for Finn. Finn can be salvaged simply by moving him to Smackdown where he can work with guys like Styles and Bryan and be treated better instead of being just kind of a lame duck on RAW.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Dec 17, 2018 18:15:54 GMT
Nah, don't agree. If you're regularly having your top title contested between two upper mids third match on the card, then it won't mean anything pretty quickly. And the state RAW is in, the Universal Title needs a marquee match like this a lot more than it needs geeks like Rollins or Balor trying to win it. In fairness Rollins can posdibly still be salvaged. Way too late for Finn. The title doesn't need a marquee match. What the title needs is a strong contender who hasn't been booked inconsistently. If Rollins is built up properly, he can be the slayer to bring down Brock. It's never too late to salvage anyone. If done properly. Before Austin 3:16, Stone Cold was being schooled by Savio Vega in lower card matches. Finn can easily be saved by booking him and promoting him as a star.
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