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Post by Nora on Dec 19, 2018 1:07:48 GMT
I enjoyed it. A lot of it is based on the fact that Clint still has his amazing on screen presence, its just very enjoyable to watch him. But the whole story of a very senior drug mule is also an interesting one. The film overall has some flaws, sure, some melodrama here and there, but the cast is stellar and Clint is still the man, albeit old and casually racist. But it makes for an entertaining movie and has some pretty funny scenes in it too. Would recommend it. 7/10 from me. But dont expect the movie to align with the trailer! Its one Really missleading trailer. I can see how that would upset a lot of people. but I also see why they did it.
PS: mslo79 - if you ever wanted to see a clone of Vera Farmiga, go see the Mule, her daughter looks and sounds JUST like her mum there. Was like watching younger Norma Bates or the shrink from Departed.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2018 12:48:03 GMT
I enjoyed this very much. It was like a cross between The Walk and Heat and also some American Made.
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Post by Nora on Dec 21, 2018 6:25:16 GMT
I enjoyed it. A lot of it is based on the fact that Clint still has his amazing on screen presence, its just very enjoyable to watch him. But the whole story of a very senior drug mule is also an interesting one. The film overall has some flaws, sure, some melodrama here and there, but the cast is stellar and Clint is still the man, albeit old and casually racist. But it makes for an entertaining movie and has some pretty funny scenes in it too. Would recommend it. 7/10 from me. But dont expect the movie to align with the trailer! Its one Really missleading trailer. I can see how that would upset a lot of people. but I also see why they did it.
PS: mslo79 - if you ever wanted to see a clone of Vera Farmiga, go see the Mule, her daughter looks and sounds JUST like her mum there. Was like watching younger Norma Bates or the shrink from Departed. Sisters Ms. Nora.
I am looking forward to seeing this and melodrama is usually an aspect of Eastwood drama's but he more often than not gets away with it, due to his deft handling of scenes and actors.
NO Way! thats a sister! wow. well that is somehow less freaky. i was wondering - how strong her genes must be to completely overpower the fathers. for her daughter to come out cloneish like that. well this explains it. thanks.
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Post by mslo79 on Dec 21, 2018 7:21:22 GMT
Taissa Farmiga is Vera's sister (from same parents to my knowledge) and there is a full 21+ year age gap (Aug 17th 1994 vs Aug 6th 1973) between the two as you don't see that level of age gap between two siblings from the same parents much from what I have seen.
p.s. The Mule is one of the small amount of movies I have yet to see for 2018 that I think have potential to reach 7/10 (or higher) status from me as currently only two movies managed to pull that off.
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Post by Nora on Dec 22, 2018 3:47:34 GMT
Taissa Farmiga is Vera's sister (from same parents to my knowledge) and there is a full 21+ year age gap (Aug 17th 1994 vs Aug 6th 1973) between the two as you don't see that level of age gap between two siblings from the same parents much from what I have seen.
p.s. The Mule is one of the small amount of movies I have yet to see for 2018 that I think have potential to reach 7/10 (or higher) status from me as currently only two movies managed to pull that off.
i swear that the first time Taissa is in the movie, the first shot at her, if you dont expect it and dont know its her, you would probably think its vera farmiga just with some cgi to make her look younger. and then she speaks and its like OH FUCK, the clone wars are here. incredible. with further shots and sentences you do see and hear they are a bit different, but the original resemblance is uncanny. certainly easy on the eyes.
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Post by RobotTheLiving on Dec 25, 2018 18:02:07 GMT
I enjoyed it. A lot of it is based on the fact that Clint still has his amazing on screen presence, its just very enjoyable to watch him. But the whole story of a very senior drug mule is also an interesting one. The film overall has some flaws, sure, some melodrama here and there, but the cast is stellar and Clint is still the man, albeit old and casually racist. But it makes for an entertaining movie and has some pretty funny scenes in it too. Would recommend it. 7/10 from me. But dont expect the movie to align with the trailer! Its one Really missleading trailer. I can see how that would upset a lot of people. but I also see why they did it.
PS: mslo79 - if you ever wanted to see a clone of Vera Farmiga, go see the Mule, her daughter looks and sounds JUST like her mum there. Was like watching younger Norma Bates or the shrink from Departed. This movie was a pleasant surprise. Shows that Clint can still carry a film and there were many unexpected twists to the story. It was also unexpectedly poignant if you take into account the scope of Clint Eastwood's career. My Dad and I enjoyed it a ton.
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Post by Nora on Dec 25, 2018 18:37:47 GMT
I enjoyed it. A lot of it is based on the fact that Clint still has his amazing on screen presence, its just very enjoyable to watch him. But the whole story of a very senior drug mule is also an interesting one. The film overall has some flaws, sure, some melodrama here and there, but the cast is stellar and Clint is still the man, albeit old and casually racist. But it makes for an entertaining movie and has some pretty funny scenes in it too. Would recommend it. 7/10 from me. But dont expect the movie to align with the trailer! Its one Really missleading trailer. I can see how that would upset a lot of people. but I also see why they did it.
PS: mslo79 - if you ever wanted to see a clone of Vera Farmiga, go see the Mule, her daughter looks and sounds JUST like her mum there. Was like watching younger Norma Bates or the shrink from Departed. This movie was a pleasant surprise. Shows that Clint can still carry a film and there were many unexpected twists to the story. It was also unexpectedly poignant if you take into account the scope of Clint Eastwood's career. My Dad and I enjoyed it a ton. yeah i feel its a perfect father and son movie too.
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Post by mslo79 on Dec 26, 2018 7:14:19 GMT
RobotTheLivingThat's nice to hear as I am hoping I am underestimating it a bit as the most recently released movie I gave a 10/10 was Eastwood's 'Gran Torino (2008)' and I am hoping for some magic with The Mule (2018) but I am not expecting it even though I feel it's got a decent chance of hitting a 7/10+ for me which would still make it among My Favorite Movies if it pulled that off which is currently 188 movies out of the 2,225+ total movies I have seen. but if it gets a 8 or higher from me then that will be a solid surprise. given my impression of it from the commercials I think it's got a decent chance to stand out (stand out as in me scoring it a 7/10+). p.s. for the record... only eight movies managed to pull off a 10/10 from me. so it's a rare feat and I don't restrict ratings on movies either as I simply don't enjoy movies to THAT level much in general.
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Post by joekiddlouischama on Dec 26, 2018 10:55:50 GMT
I just viewed The Mule and believe that it is a great film—quiet, quirky, humanistic, intimate, mesmerizing, and tense without ever straining or forcing tension. The threat of violence is constant, yet there is very little on-screen violence . Like most great movies, one comes away from The Mule feeling a deeper visceral connection to one's environment and life. I cannot see how this movie could have been made any better. Eastwood delivers a remarkable performance, at once vulnerable and resilient, and the scenes between his character and Bradley Cooper's are to be cherished. In its locations and diegetic ("source") music, The Mule also splendidly features a sense of Americana, only in a multicultural or syncretic form relevant to our current age, perhaps best epitomized by the scene in a VFW hall that features what seems like Tejano polka. This Eastwood character—for the most part cautious and curious and hardly a "tough guy" even though he is a Korean War combat veteran—is rather unlike any that he has ever played before (even compared to his other elderly roles), but masculine ideals are still on display, namely in the form of honesty, candor, and accountability. I wonder if the Academy would actually give Eastwood the one major honor that he has never received: an Oscar for Best Actor. Ironically, another icon, Robert Redford, starred in a somewhat similar role (nominated for a Golden Globe) this fall in The Old Man and the Gun. Having viewed it twice, I like that film quite a bit—I consider it "good/very good" and the year's most lyrical movie. But The Mule is sharper, stronger, and tenser—less sentimental and romantic, more painfully fatalistic and darkly ironic, and more impressive visually. It is a nuanced film that transcends stereotypes and finds bits of human frailty and empathy almost everywhere. For the first time since 2014, I would say that there have been more than two "great" feature films among theatrical releases: The Mule (Clint Eastwood), Lean on Pete (Andrew Haigh), Mid90s (Jonah Hill), and Beautiful Boy (Felix van Groeningen). "Very good" movies among 2018 releases, among those that I have seen, would be The 15:17 to Paris (Clint Eastwood), Welcome to Marwen (Robert Zemeckis), Green Book (Peter Farrelly), The Rider (Chloé Zhao), White Boy Rick (Yann Demange), and At Eternity's Gate (Julian Schnabel). What all these films have in common, I would suggest, is genuine human intimacy and eccentricity that resists cliché. I wish that the Academy would recognize deeply personal and soulful movies such as Lean on Pete and Mid90s, but it almost certainly will not do so. Perhaps The Mule and Beautiful Boy will have a chance, but there seems to be too much of an emphasis now on grandiosity and what fits cliché ( Bohemian Rhapsody, for instance, which I consider "pretty good" due mainly to the Live Aid sequence yet so lacks, for the most part, genuine human intimacy). I still have to view Vice, The Favourite, and Mary Queen of Scots, among some others.
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Post by joekiddlouischama on Dec 26, 2018 11:03:28 GMT
I enjoyed this very much. It was like a cross between The Walk and Heat and also some American Made. ... good connection. The films are very different, of course, but there is a certain similarity.
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Post by joekiddlouischama on Dec 26, 2018 11:09:25 GMT
I enjoyed it. A lot of it is based on the fact that Clint still has his amazing on screen presence, its just very enjoyable to watch him. But the whole story of a very senior drug mule is also an interesting one. The film overall has some flaws, sure, some melodrama here and there, but the cast is stellar and Clint is still the man, albeit old and casually racist. But it makes for an entertaining movie and has some pretty funny scenes in it too. Would recommend it. 7/10 from me. But dont expect the movie to align with the trailer! Its one Really missleading trailer. I can see how that would upset a lot of people. but I also see why they did it.
PS: mslo79 - if you ever wanted to see a clone of Vera Farmiga, go see the Mule, her daughter looks and sounds JUST like her mum there. Was like watching younger Norma Bates or the shrink from Departed. I know what you mean, but I would say "politically incorrect" more than "causally racist." This Eastwood character, for instance, is quite a bit different from his one in Gran Torino, even though the screenwriter (Nick Schenk) is the same. I feel that The Mule easily could have descended into obvious melodrama at several points, yet it instead opts for a certain quietly unusual path. It could have easily become like any number of bloated or convoluted Hollywood crime/drug dramas, but the film instead emerges as something new and fresh, albeit with archetypal resonance.
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Post by Fetzer Zinfandel on Dec 27, 2018 0:27:30 GMT
We saw it today. Enjoyed it quite a bit. He did good.
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Post by joekiddlouischama on Jan 4, 2019 9:23:23 GMT
I just viewed The Mule and believe that it is a great film—quiet, quirky, humanistic, intimate, mesmerizing, and tense without ever straining or forcing tension. The threat of violence is constant, yet there is very little on-screen violence . Like most great movies, one comes away from The Mule feeling a deeper visceral connection to one's environment and life. I cannot see how this movie could have been made any better. Eastwood delivers a remarkable performance, at once vulnerable and resilient, and the scenes between his character and Bradley Cooper's are to be cherished. In its locations and diegetic ("source") music, The Mule also splendidly features a sense of Americana, only in a multicultural or syncretic form relevant to our current age, perhaps best epitomized by the scene in a VFW hall that features what seems like Tejano polka. This Eastwood character—for the most part cautious and curious and hardly a "tough guy" even though he is a Korean War combat veteran—is rather unlike any that he has ever played before (even compared to his other elderly roles), but masculine ideals are still on display, namely in the form of honesty, candor, and accountability. I wonder if the Academy would actually give Eastwood the one major honor that he has never received: an Oscar for Best Actor. Ironically, another icon, Robert Redford, starred in a somewhat similar role (nominated for a Golden Globe) this fall in The Old Man and the Gun. Having viewed it twice, I like that film quite a bit—I consider it "good/very good" and the year's most lyrical movie. But The Mule is sharper, stronger, and tenser—less sentimental and romantic, more painfully fatalistic and darkly ironic, and more impressive visually. It is a nuanced film that transcends stereotypes and finds bits of human frailty and empathy almost everywhere. For the first time since 2014, I would say that there have been more than two "great" feature films among theatrical releases: The Mule (Clint Eastwood), Lean on Pete (Andrew Haigh), Mid90s (Jonah Hill), and Beautiful Boy (Felix van Groeningen). "Very good" movies among 2018 releases, among those that I have seen, would be The 15:17 to Paris (Clint Eastwood), Welcome to Marwen (Robert Zemeckis), Green Book (Peter Farrelly), The Rider (Chloé Zhao), White Boy Rick (Yann Demange), and At Eternity's Gate (Julian Schnabel). What all these films have in common, I would suggest, is genuine human intimacy and eccentricity that resists cliché. I wish that the Academy would recognize deeply personal and soulful movies such as Lean on Pete and Mid90s, but it almost certainly will not do so. Perhaps The Mule and Beautiful Boy will have a chance, but there seems to be too much of an emphasis now on grandiosity and what fits cliché ( Bohemian Rhapsody, for instance, which I consider "pretty good" due mainly to the Live Aid sequence yet so lacks, for the most part, genuine human intimacy). I still have to view Vice, The Favourite, and Mary Queen of Scots, among some others. I should add Leave No Trace (Debra Granik) to the list of "very good" films from 2018: austere, intimate, and poignant without being sentimental. The movie also makes powerful use of Pacific Northwest locations without visual clichés and landscapes-for-the-sake-of-landscapes.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Jan 4, 2019 10:56:47 GMT
I thought it was a flawed yet interesting film. One of the better ones out of his recent filmography.
6.5/10
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Post by joekiddlouischama on Jan 13, 2019 8:28:07 GMT
For the first time since 2014, I would say that there have been more than two "great" feature films among theatrical releases: The Mule (Clint Eastwood), Lean on Pete (Andrew Haigh), Mid90s (Jonah Hill), and Beautiful Boy (Felix van Groeningen). "Very good" movies among 2018 releases, among those that I have seen, would be The 15:17 to Paris (Clint Eastwood), Welcome to Marwen (Robert Zemeckis), Green Book (Peter Farrelly), The Rider (Chloé Zhao), White Boy Rick (Yann Demange), and At Eternity's Gate (Julian Schnabel). What all these films have in common, I would suggest, is genuine human intimacy and eccentricity that resists cliché. I wish that the Academy would recognize deeply personal and soulful movies such as Lean on Pete and Mid90s, but it almost certainly will not do so. Perhaps The Mule and Beautiful Boy will have a chance, but there seems to be too much of an emphasis now on grandiosity and what fits cliché ( Bohemian Rhapsody, for instance, which I consider "pretty good" due mainly to the Live Aid sequence yet so lacks, for the most part, genuine human intimacy). I still have to view Vice, The Favourite, and Mary Queen of Scots, among some others. I should add Leave No Trace (Debra Granik) to the list of "very good" films from 2018: austere, intimate, and poignant without being sentimental. The movie also makes powerful use of Pacific Northwest locations without visual clichés and landscapes-for-the-sake-of-landscapes. I would also deem Puzzle (Marc Turtletaub) "very good."
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Post by joekiddlouischama on Jan 29, 2019 9:57:46 GMT
Having viewed The Mule twice more, I would emphasize how engrossing the film happens to be—how the viewer feels like he (in my case) is right there with the actors. Here are some other observations: *Without ever approaching comedy status, the movie is quite humorous. It is also quietly fatalistic, as perfectly evidenced by the early hotel scene in 2005 where Earl runs across an Internet flower vendor pitching his product and the ease and efficiency offered by his online ordering service. Earl grumbles, "Damn Internet, it ruins everything." Sure enough, twelve years later in 2017, Earl's traditional flower business has gone out of business, forcing him to foreclose on his Illinois home and pack his belongings into his truck, wondering what he will do next. In effect, the Internet led a man who had never so much as received a traffic ticket into this casually criminal saga. *Being both humorous and fatalistic speaks to the film's textured tone and refined excellence. Similarly, one could consider The Mule both lyrical and tense, humanistic and haunting, intimate and epic. To that last point of irony, The Mule is really about people—unlike most movies that tackle this subject matter, even "bad guys" become humanized—yet it offers this epic feel, this traversing of time and space, encountering different kinds of folks and places and sowing cross-cultural fertilization. Probably for that reason, someone that I attended The Mule with stated that she was reminded of Eastwood's legendary Western The Outlaw Josey Wales (1976). *In this regard, too, The Mule offers plenty of de facto commentary (most of it subtle and ambiguous) about race, stereotypes, and police profiling. * The Mule is a great road movie with a real feel for the spaces and places and quiet sounds of "middle America"—mom-and-pop diners and Waffle House, commercial garages and motels, VFW halls and outhouses, back roads and freeways, verdant fields and expansive plains, white sands and vast skies. This sense of environs is precisely what If Beale Street Could Talk, for instance, lacks. * The Mule is probably the year's best film in terms of incorporating diegetic (source) music. It is an eclectic, organic, and historical mix: blue-eyed soul and jazz, country and Tejano polka, Spiral Starecase and Dean Martin and Willie Nelson and Toby Keith. It works brilliantly, always complementing and never overwhelming the story. I noted in another thread that director Robert Zemeckis had done a fine job of incorporating popular music in Welcome to Marwen, but The Mule is that much better in that regard. Frankly, I am hard-pressed to recall a film that uses diegetic popular music better than The Mule, especially given the range of genres and the syncretic blend. The musical choices are diverse yet fit together perfectly. *Eastwood's commitment to his character is naturalistic and complete. He expresses so much in this role just through his eyes, which often change quickly and suddenly, revealing a remarkable range of emotion yet one that he internalizes. It is, perhaps, veteran screen acting at is most venerable. *The supporting roles are also exquisitely acted, most notably Bradley Cooper, Andy Garcia in a colorful part that he handles masterfully, and Alison Eastwood (Clint's real-life daughter, who plays his daughter in the film). But even the anonymous actors playing the Hispanic drug dealers prove highly effective. These types of parts usually come across as two-dimensional, at best, in movies, but in The Mule, they manage to be three-dimensional and nuanced. *The film's cinematography (by Yves Bélanger, an Eastwood newcomer) is also notable, with some sharp, beautiful contrasts yet also a capacity to capture different types of outdoor lighting that seem to vary with the film's subtly changing moods and resonances. Eastwood's camera is full of life yet always purposeful and quite graceful in both its movements and the filmmaking decisions that it reflects. *I would have nominated The Mule for Best Picture, Best Director, Best Actor, Best Original Screenplay, Best Cinematography, and perhaps Best Editing. Of course, it received no nominations. If the milieu of drug-dealing emanating from Mexico proved too politically incorrect for the Academy (the body that chose Coco over Loving Vincent last year for Best Animated Feature), perhaps its members should take a closer look at the film's capacity for humanization and empathy. For instance, in one scene at a Missouri diner, Earl's Mexican handlers have to deal with the discomfort of being suspiciously eyed by an array of white patrons—and then being accosted by a Missouri patrol officer without cause (even if the men are, indeed, criminals). Earl helps them through those situations, partly because he is working with them, of course, but partly because of this sense of common humanity that builds between them and accrues throughout the movie. That common humanity also transcends the line between cop and criminal, as embodied by the Cooper and Eastwood characters. *Last week, I viewed both Holmes & Watson and The Mule on Tuesday evening and then I managed to see four films on Thursday: Ben Is Back ("good"), If Beale Street Could Talk ("good"), Mary Queen of Scots ("good/very good"), and Creed II ("mediocre"). (Incidentally, that is the third time that I have viewed four movies in the theater in one day, the other occasions coming in November 2015 and early May 2016). But even after seeing the four films on Thursday, most of which I liked quite a bit, the one that I kept coming back to was The Mule from two days earlier.
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Post by joekiddlouischama on Jan 29, 2019 10:36:27 GMT
I enjoyed it. A lot of it is based on the fact that Clint still has his amazing on screen presence, its just very enjoyable to watch him. But the whole story of a very senior drug mule is also an interesting one. The film overall has some flaws, sure, some melodrama here and there, but the cast is stellar and Clint is still the man, albeit old and casually racist. But it makes for an entertaining movie and has some pretty funny scenes in it too. Would recommend it. 7/10 from me. But dont expect the movie to align with the trailer! Its one Really missleading trailer. I can see how that would upset a lot of people. but I also see why they did it.
PS: mslo79 - if you ever wanted to see a clone of Vera Farmiga, go see the Mule, her daughter looks and sounds JUST like her mum there. Was like watching younger Norma Bates or the shrink from Departed. This movie was a pleasant surprise. Shows that Clint can still carry a film and there were many unexpected twists to the story. It was also unexpectedly poignant if you take into account the scope of Clint Eastwood's career. My Dad and I enjoyed it a ton. Something that I deemed notable is that The Mule represents Eastwood's second cinematic trip to White Sands National Monument in New Mexico. The other occasion was his first American movie as a star, released fifty years earlier: 1968's Hang 'Em High, where he fought in the White Sands with Bruce Dern. On this occasion, half a century later, he merely drives through them or past them in a couple of beautiful shots.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 13:01:10 GMT
I liked it a lot. his best since Gran Turino. At his age the still draw people to CINEMAS IS AMAZING. In a class of his own.
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Post by Vits on Mar 1, 2019 19:11:30 GMT
If you don't wanna watch Clint Eastwood movies due to the grey palette he's used for a long time, I inform you that he doesn't use it in THE MULE (he hired a different cinematographer), in which he plays EARL STONE, a man who transports drug for a cartel. The movie opens with an on-screen text that says it's 2005, only to almost immediately show a banner for a convention with the year on it. If that wasn't redundant enough, there's another text that says "2017, 12 years later." Also, the dialogue that MARY (EARL's ex-wife) says during their daughter's wedding is very awkward exposition. All of this made me fear that I was going to watch an amateurish movie, something that we shouldn't expect from someone who's directed almost 40 movies. In the end, it's a generic but still competent and at times entertaining production. It would've had better pacing without the subplot of the DEA agents that are after EARL. I also have my doubts about the screentime dedicated to GUSTAVO (the cartel lieutenant) killing LATON (the cartel boss) in order to take over things, seemingly setting him up as the main villain who will play a big role in the climax. He doesn't play any role; he just disappears from the screen. EARL was a bad father, but he gets a redemption, even though he may not have earned it. During the scene of his arrest and trial, I was expecting at least one of his relatives to say "I was wrong to forgive you. I was right before about you being a bad person." Nope. They say they'll visit him in prison as often as they can. Now that I think about it, there's a lot of ego displayed. There are 2 scenes where EARL has a threeway with younger women, and a lot of people fall under his charms during conversations. There are even moments where he says something offensive and he never gets his ass kicked. I know, I know, this sounds like GRAN TORINO (one of the best movies I've ever seen). However, in that movie, he wasn't playing a character that was meant to be likeable. Here, a black family nicely explain to him that it's not OK to say "negro" anymore, even though A) he was a stranger, B) he hadn't been very nice to them before saying that word and C) he didn't come off as an old man who's too senile to realize what he's saying nor who has been living under a rock and just needs to be taught about the modern world. There's a point where a group of women refer to themselves as "dykes on bikes." They don't seem bothered when EARL calls them "dykes" (in real life, most minorities get angry at others for saying slurs even if they use them) nor that he mistook them for men. Again, something similar happened in GRAN TORINO, but there was a point. The Hmong characters sarcastically insulting themselves showed their awareness of stereotypes and their confidence that they were above that. 5/10 ------------------------------------- You can read comments of other movies in my blog.
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