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Post by thisguy4000 on Dec 27, 2018 23:25:59 GMT
Can someone explain to me what kind of feelings the scene where Vader killed a bunch of Rebel soldiers was supposed to illicit?
Was it supposed to be a sad scene? If so, it wasn’t very effective in that regard, since those were just a bunch of disposable, no-name soldiers that Vader killed.
Was it supposed to be tense? If so, that doesn’t work either because Vader’s actions during that scene didn’t hurt the Rebel Alliance in any meaningful way. They still got the plans to the Death Star, and frankly, it’s not like Vader killed anyone who the Alliance desperately needed.
Were we supposed to root for Vader in that scene? If so, why? Not only is Darth Vader the bad guy, but didn’t we just spend over two hours rooting for the Rebel Alliance? Why were we suddenly supposed to root for the Empire at that point?
Seriously, someone help me out here!
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Post by James on Dec 28, 2018 1:01:17 GMT
I think it was solely meant for fan service, but if we’re being legit here, probably thrilling.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Dec 28, 2018 3:47:14 GMT
I think it was solely meant for fan service, but if we’re being legit here, probably thrilling. You mean we were supposed to root for Vader in that scene after all? That’s a really weird direction to go for a film that was supposed to be about trying to defeat the Empire. |
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Post by James on Dec 28, 2018 3:51:55 GMT
I think it was solely meant for fan service, but if we’re being legit here, probably thrilling. You mean we were supposed to root for Vader in that scene after all? That’s a really weird direction to go for a film that was supposed to be about trying to defeat the Empire. I mean “thrill” as in nerve inducing. |
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Post by thisguy4000 on Dec 28, 2018 4:09:58 GMT
You mean we were supposed to root for Vader in that scene after all? That’s a really weird direction to go for a film that was supposed to be about trying to defeat the Empire. I mean “thrill” as in nerve inducing. So it was supposed to make us feel tense? It failed pretty miserably at that for me then. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2018 13:31:23 GMT
Can someone explain to me what kind of feelings the scene where Vader killed a bunch of Rebel soldiers was supposed to illicit? Was it supposed to be a sad scene? If so, it wasn’t very effective in that regard, since those were just a bunch of disposable, no-name soldiers that Vader killed. Was it supposed to be tense? If so, that doesn’t work either because Vader’s actions during that scene didn’t hurt the Rebel Alliance in any meaningful way. They still got the plans to the Death Star, and frankly, it’s not like Vader killed anyone who the Alliance desperately needed. Were we supposed to root for Vader in that scene? If so, why? Not only is Darth Vader the bad guy, but didn’t we just spend over two hours rooting for the Rebel Alliance? Why were we suddenly supposed to root for the Empire at that point? Seriously, someone help me out here! I imagine you as Charlie Brown asking what Christmas is all about here. So I will be Linus:  Darth Vader kicking ass was supposed to evoke tidings of great joy in the hearts of those who have lamented that he was never really shown doing so in the franchise. Those fans have called for this scene for many years, and they were rewarded with this. And behold, those fans did feel great joy in seeing this, for they indeed did see what they had always wanted to see... And that's what the Darth Vader scene is all about Charlie Brown!  |
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Dec 28, 2018 13:58:39 GMT
lol, don't ask questions like this in real life, or people will think you are a troll or autistic. The scene was hailed by many as the best Vader scene ever. And I think it worked for nearly everyone (but you).
It's still an interesting question to ask. The scene is the Star Wars equivalent of a horror film scene where the monster or slasher kills all the canon fodder. Yes, essentially you are rooting for the monster here, not so much the red shirt victims.
Depending on the viewer, it is supposed to illicit awe, tension, suspense, dread, horror, empowerment, panic, shock while being in remote safetyin an galaxy far far away.
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Post by James on Dec 28, 2018 14:27:12 GMT
I mean “thrill” as in nerve inducing. So it was supposed to make us feel tense? It failed pretty miserably at that for me then. Well to each its own. |
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Post by twothousandonemark on Dec 29, 2018 14:43:45 GMT
It's 21st century Vader.
As to why we never again see him do that, I do think he's in ever state of repose for a reason - neither the Force nor his cyborg body enable him to physically conquer the universe 24/7/365. Besides, we know his power lies off the battlefields.
Those Rebels were taking plans to change the course of the entire Empire & he knew it, which is why he exhumed all his energies to stop them.
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