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Post by Vassaggo on Jan 24, 2019 12:25:16 GMT
I don't care if you personally think the MCU sucks. I care that you repeat the same thing ad nauseum. It was one Idea of how it could happen. That was it. You know one person just spit balling to get others to give ideas. You don't want ideas your main thesis is. Marvel Studios product sucks. You don't like them. And we shouldn't discuss anything about it other than how much it sucks, who you think also thinks it sucks, what people on the internet that think it sucks. That's it. You have been asking for logic lately. Logically, You are a Mutant Hating character in the Marvel Universe. You think they all should be rounded up and gassed. In fact you have personally killed a weak mutant and got away with it. One with superficial mutation that didn't really do anything. You turn the corner and you see a female floating 6 inches above the ground. As that character are you going to assume she's a Mutate or Mutant? Would you really care? the idea of how it could happen. have you at least tried to read a marvel comic?
let me make it people. most people that wanted xmen separated was because so the issue can be better. in the comics xmen were still secluded as the theme worked better.
the logic will be mutants have always been there but now they are causing trouble in the mcu than the world (mcu) resiles these people are genetics not like a civil war thing and u take things from there. infact if mcu was smart, the logic is... now that the jokey avengers nonsense is over with avengers end game, there is a bigger danger to deal with because the mutants are born that way meaning you can sweet talk them like iron man tried to do in civil war, it is a lot more complicated.
that is how it should be done. but mcu wont do that. you can sell enough toys with that. that is what sucks,
let that poster sink in, to tell you just how much xmen made people think and why mcu is seen as kiddie garbage. eat that when mcu xmen is disgraced for failing to take on the concept of what that poster was showing.
And we have an Idea from you on how it could happen. And guess what with you actively participating in a conversation it makes the hate you absolute have to express more palatable. I see some problems with the tact of saying they were always in the MCU just not publicly known, but it could work. Hell I have problems with the forced invasion from another Dimension. I honestly don't know if at the point we are at now if we there would be an easy and completely satisfying way to introduce them at this point. Hell even the fact that whatever act the Avengers try and reverse the Decimation. (I hate the fact it's called the Decimation because technically that means to remove 10% not 50%. It came from Roman Army's Justice System.) Could alter our reality causing mutants to have always been here. Look, I don't know you, you don't know me. I personally don't care that you don't like the MCU. Honestly I didn't care that my Ex-Wife thought Spiderman 3 was the best of the Rami's Spidermans. I disagreed but in the end fuck it. It was her opinion. The only problem is you don't really bring anything to the table. There are other staunch haters of MCU on here but they are part of the conversation.
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Post by summers8 on Jan 24, 2019 14:17:30 GMT
the idea of how it could happen. have you at least tried to read a marvel comic?
let me make it people. most people that wanted xmen separated was because so the issue can be better. in the comics xmen were still secluded as the theme worked better.
the logic will be mutants have always been there but now they are causing trouble in the mcu than the world (mcu) resiles these people are genetics not like a civil war thing and u take things from there. infact if mcu was smart, the logic is... now that the jokey avengers nonsense is over with avengers end game, there is a bigger danger to deal with because the mutants are born that way meaning you can sweet talk them like iron man tried to do in civil war, it is a lot more complicated.
that is how it should be done. but mcu wont do that. you can sell enough toys with that. that is what sucks,
let that poster sink in, to tell you just how much xmen made people think and why mcu is seen as kiddie garbage. eat that when mcu xmen is disgraced for failing to take on the concept of what that poster was showing.
And we have an Idea from you on how it could happen. And guess what with you actively participating in a conversation it makes the hate you absolute have to express more palatable. I see some problems with the tact of saying they were always in the MCU just not publicly known, but it could work. Hell I have problems with the forced invasion from another Dimension. I honestly don't know if at the point we are at now if we there would be an easy and completely satisfying way to introduce them at this point. Hell even the fact that whatever act the Avengers try and reverse the Decimation. (I hate the fact it's called the Decimation because technically that means to remove 10% not 50%. It came from Roman Army's Justice System.) Could alter our reality causing mutants to have always been here. Look, I don't know you, you don't know me. I personally don't care that you don't like the MCU. Honestly I didn't care that my Ex-Wife thought Spiderman 3 was the best of the Rami's Spidermans. I disagreed but in the end fuck it. It was her opinion. The only problem is you don't really bring anything to the table. There are other staunch haters of MCU on here but they are part of the conversation. as said that is how it should work but it wont. mcu has become even more jokeY and more disneyfied, expect mutants to be treated like GOTG jokefest squad. that is your deinfation of getting xmen right. that is how disney does it. funny thing with GOTG even some sensible avengers fans felt they were too irritating and cringe worthy when they came to earth.
you not knowing me does not mean I don't know how mcu does things. as said make it about the art. why do people keeping coming after me? focus on the art.
spiderman 3 is better than homecoming. at least uncle ben's legacy is in spiderman 3. the fact that you think making mutants out of mutates is just more clues mcu xmen is going to suck. their fans are trying to make the idiotic look passable. not my problem, I am only here to see mcu xmen crash and burn as deserved. this is the next batman and robin.
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Post by ThatGuy on Jan 24, 2019 17:42:25 GMT
I think, for the most part, it's what those characters do with those powers. Most Mutants only get a physical change and not cool powers. Mutates are created to be a superhero or villain. Mutants are just people that are there. Mutates get out there and do something and become favorable to the public (unless propaganda hits them, e.g. Spider-man). The X-men are activists and publicly Mutants. Fighting for Mutant rights that can be seen by non-Mutants as being against them. They then destroy a neighborhood or city or something in a huge fight. Hell, even bad Mutants like Magneto do what they do in the name of Mutants. And that doesn't help when the X-men put Magneto on their team every once in a while. They don't make an announcement that they are trying to reform him. He just pops up with them. Juggernaut? Sabertooth? Mystique? A bunch of villains pop up on the teams. At least the Avengers put Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch on their team in an announcement and they stay heroes (for the most part). Yes, the Mutates do screw up, but they fix it publicly and gain the public's favor again. Yeah publicly teaming up with known terrorist prolly does hurt your reputation of the X-men. Never really thought about it that way. This all started from a conversation where my friend who isn't a comics guy really. He's a Computer/Science and oddly Spiritual/Fantasy/Lotr guy. He does watch the movies with us, tho. He brought up the basic problem that a Mutate is still a Mutant it would just be a side note on where the Mutation came from. He's a little peeved at me right now. His War Priest (monk) just was turned by a Dampeel. I wasn't going to choose his character but it made the most sense. I think the idea is that Mutants are (like summers8 said) the next step in evolution and taking the place of regular people. Which really doesn't matter because the normal person isn't turning into a Mutant (only Mutate). The other thing is that Mutants are dangerous. But, at the same time, if everyone was a Mutant then it would normal out. The only thing with that is that nonMuntants will still exist. Unless one day the X-gene is so much that nonMutants are extra rare. Mutant hate is propaganda from hate and fear mongers and makes no sense. In a way, I kinda agree with having a Registration Act. People should know that this person is a telepath, or can manipulate fire, or whatever. Have some way that can identify that person as such without having to mark them or wear it on their clothing. And also the idea of creating schools for Mutants. Or even classes in regular schools catered to Mutants. At least to help them control their abilities.
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Post by ThatGuy on Jan 24, 2019 17:57:52 GMT
the idea of how it could happen. have you at least tried to read a marvel comic?
let me make it people. most people that wanted xmen separated was because so the issue can be better. in the comics xmen were still secluded as the theme worked better.
the logic will be mutants have always been there but now they are causing trouble in the mcu than the world (mcu) resiles these people are genetics not like a civil war thing and u take things from there. infact if mcu was smart, the logic is... now that the jokey avengers nonsense is over with avengers end game, there is a bigger danger to deal with because the mutants are born that way meaning you can sweet talk them like iron man tried to do in civil war, it is a lot more complicated.
that is how it should be done. but mcu wont do that. you can sell enough toys with that. that is what sucks,
let that poster sink in, to tell you just how much xmen made people think and why mcu is seen as kiddie garbage. eat that when mcu xmen is disgraced for failing to take on the concept of what that poster was showing.
And we have an Idea from you on how it could happen. And guess what with you actively participating in a conversation it makes the hate you absolute have to express more palatable. I see some problems with the tact of saying they were always in the MCU just not publicly known, but it could work. Hell I have problems with the forced invasion from another Dimension. I honestly don't know if at the point we are at now if we there would be an easy and completely satisfying way to introduce them at this point. Hell even the fact that whatever act the Avengers try and reverse the Decimation. (I hate the fact it's called the Decimation because technically that means to remove 10% not 50%. It came from Roman Army's Justice System.) Could alter our reality causing mutants to have always been here. Look, I don't know you, you don't know me. I personally don't care that you don't like the MCU. Honestly I didn't care that my Ex-Wife thought Spiderman 3 was the best of the Rami's Spidermans. I disagreed but in the end fuck it. It was her opinion. The only problem is you don't really bring anything to the table. There are other staunch haters of MCU on here but they are part of the conversation. I think that could be the best way to do it. Do it like a reverse of "Mutants no more," but with a version of The Snap. Them fighting Thanos on Earth through time, I can see him doing something kinda like The Snap (but not with all the stones) and it randomly selecting people around the world and changing their genetic make up creating the 1st Mutants. Something not noticed until they come back to present day. Just imagine Thanos creating a power wave and it's shown hitting a kid in Ancient Egypt. End credits scene shows this kid sick in his bed and his face changes to have the markings of Apocalypse.
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Post by summers8 on Jan 25, 2019 19:58:44 GMT
And we have an Idea from you on how it could happen. And guess what with you actively participating in a conversation it makes the hate you absolute have to express more palatable. I see some problems with the tact of saying they were always in the MCU just not publicly known, but it could work. Hell I have problems with the forced invasion from another Dimension. I honestly don't know if at the point we are at now if we there would be an easy and completely satisfying way to introduce them at this point. Hell even the fact that whatever act the Avengers try and reverse the Decimation. (I hate the fact it's called the Decimation because technically that means to remove 10% not 50%. It came from Roman Army's Justice System.) Could alter our reality causing mutants to have always been here. Look, I don't know you, you don't know me. I personally don't care that you don't like the MCU. Honestly I didn't care that my Ex-Wife thought Spiderman 3 was the best of the Rami's Spidermans. I disagreed but in the end fuck it. It was her opinion. The only problem is you don't really bring anything to the table. There are other staunch haters of MCU on here but they are part of the conversation. I think that could be the best way to do it. Do it like a reverse of "Mutants no more," but with a version of The Snap. Them fighting Thanos on Earth through time, I can see him doing something kinda like The Snap (but not with all the stones) and it randomly selecting people around the world and changing their genetic make up creating the 1st Mutants. Something not noticed until they come back to present day. Just imagine Thanos creating a power wave and it's shown hitting a kid in Ancient Egypt. End credits scene shows this kid sick in his bed and his face changes to have the markings of Apocalypse. that will be one of the worst stories ever. this is what was original planned with inhumans.
also that is not from the comics. if mcu does that they would have made the worst xmen movie. what you said is like disney not understanding the concept of the star wars and making up their own rules to disastrous results.
thanos creating mutants? really? in the comics mutants came first. also that means it wont be genetic. sounds more like inhumans woith a power wave not xmen. additonal a very shallow way to create mutants and a step below with mcvoy said was going to be the problem.
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