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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2019 20:26:28 GMT
The trailer with the music and how the text pops up is making it seem like this is some hip, cool story to tell about a cool, hip guy. The makers of this trailer are a bunch of pr**ks.
Also, small tidbit, but Zac Efron's voiceover work for the trailer sounds so cheesy. It sounds like someone who has never done actually acting was doing it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2019 20:42:15 GMT
I'm actually really impressed with what I'm seeing from Efron in that trailer. If you had told me they were casting him as Bundy my initial reaction would have been Wut.
I think he's acting like a rock star in the trailer because Bundy acted like that IRL. Even after he got caught he loved the cameras and attention. He was very bright, good looking, educated, charismatic, likable...and he raped, tortured, and killed at least 30 women, probably more. He was the quintessential sociopath to me. It's pretty terrifying because it makes you wonder about people you interact with in every day life and what they could be capable of that you don't know about.
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Post by politicidal on Jan 25, 2019 22:20:24 GMT
Efron’s come a long way since High School Musical.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2019 16:56:09 GMT
I'm actually really impressed with what I'm seeing from Efron in that trailer. If you had told me they were casting him as Bundy my initial reaction would have been Wut. I think he's acting like a rock star in the trailer because Bundy acted like that IRL. Even after he got caught he loved the cameras and attention. He was very bright, good looking, educated, charismatic, likable...and he raped, tortured, and killed at least 30 women, probably more. He was the quintessential sociopath to me. It's pretty terrifying because it makes you wonder about people you interact with in every day life and what they could be capable of that you don't know about. It's not about him acting that way. It's how the trailer was made. Not his acting.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2019 18:17:52 GMT
I'm actually really impressed with what I'm seeing from Efron in that trailer. If you had told me they were casting him as Bundy my initial reaction would have been Wut. I think he's acting like a rock star in the trailer because Bundy acted like that IRL. Even after he got caught he loved the cameras and attention. He was very bright, good looking, educated, charismatic, likable...and he raped, tortured, and killed at least 30 women, probably more. He was the quintessential sociopath to me. It's pretty terrifying because it makes you wonder about people you interact with in every day life and what they could be capable of that you don't know about. It's not about him acting that way. It's how the trailer was made. Not his acting. Yeah, they did the same thing with Charles Manson in the Sharon Tate movie trailer. It's like they're glamorizing these assholes. The difference to me is that they seemed to take a lot of liberties with the story in the Sharon Tate trailer and made Manson something more than a sick cult leader. This trailer looks like an accurate portrayal of Bundy from what it's showing.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2019 18:24:14 GMT
It's not about him acting that way. It's how the trailer was made. Not his acting. This trailer looks like an accurate portrayal of Bundy from what it's showing. Well at least there's that, but the trailer was terrible. How it was made.
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Post by hi224 on Jan 26, 2019 19:13:52 GMT
Well looks solid but still wouldve been interested in Chalamets whole interpretation.
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Post by Winter_King on Jan 28, 2019 12:10:11 GMT
I'll reserve judgment. Zac Efron really looks the part and the trailer tone might intentionally misleading.
Remember: Bundy was a apparently a charming attractive person. There is also the thing that the movie will be told from Elizabeth Kloepfer perspective.. She saw him in a very different light.
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Post by Winter_King on Jan 28, 2019 12:11:50 GMT
65% fresh in Rotten Tomatoes. People seem to be praising Zac Efron performance but apparently the film focus too much on the charming side of Ted Bundy.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2019 13:30:17 GMT
65% fresh in Rotten Tomatoes. People seem to be praising Zac Efron performance but apparently the film focus too much on the charming side of Ted Bundy. From the reviews it sounds like they focus mostly on his relationship with the girlfriend and her emotional roller coaster throughout. I can appreciate that they don't show much in the way of his actual murders. Considering this is recent history and his victim's families are still around, that gives his victims the respect they deserve instead of using them to turn Bundy into a horror movie villain.
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Post by TheSowIsMine on Jan 28, 2019 13:44:47 GMT
Im curious about this film. I like the style of the director in the previous projects I have seen by him. I juts hope they don't take too many artistic liberties and don't turn it into some thriller or something. For me these stories work best as drama's.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2019 13:48:54 GMT
Looks cool. Definitely worth a watch. Thanks for posting it.
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Post by tommyrockarolla on Jan 28, 2019 23:28:21 GMT
Yea, I'm gonna try it. I thought I knew pretty much all there was to know about this freak until I saw the Netflix documentary, which really contextualized his whole persona.
He was a very frightening man, except? He was charming, bright, and for a sociopath? Learned how to be disarming and personable.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 6:02:16 GMT
I can see why you have a problem with it but it is not the first time they have done this with serial killers and the 'Starkweather' movie turned the life of Charles Starkweather into a love story with his 13 year old girlfriend, Caril Ann Fugate and was even billed as a tragic love story when she was way too young for him and he was having sex with the dead bodies of his victims when she wasn't around.
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Post by ck100 on Jan 29, 2019 6:55:45 GMT
At least it has Lily Collins.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 14:58:32 GMT
From the reviews it sounds like they focus mostly on his relationship with the girlfriend and her emotional roller coaster throughout. I can appreciate that they don't show much in the way of his actual murders. Considering this is recent history and his victim's families are still around, that gives his victims the respect they deserve instead of using them to turn Bundy into a horror movie villain. Well, the title also gives me the impression that Bundy is a cheeky killer. There appears to be too much inappropriateness on many levels with how this is being sold. The title is a direct quote from the judge who sentenced him. I think they could have shortened it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 1:33:49 GMT
The title is a direct quote from the judge who sentenced him. I think they could have shortened it. Thanks Marilyn, I wasn't aware of the context of the title. However, why use that context for this film? It appears cocky and smart alec and tied in with the presentation of the trailer, they appear to be sensationalizing it.
For the millennials that perhaps don't know of Bundy, they are not going to care about how he is presented, because much of the marketing of the film will be pandering to this target demographic and Efron in the lead. Have you seen the four part Netflix documentary about him? It was done by the same guy who did the movie. It's pretty interesting. Bundy was by far the most charismatic serial killer ever. He pretty much ran his own trial, playing to the cameras, even making everyone laugh at times. After being found guilty, the judge even told him he would have been an excellent lawyer and he would have enjoyed watching him practice in his court, and then told him he didn't hold any animosity towards him and he should take care of himself. Seriously, it was crazy.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 2:09:27 GMT
Have you seen the four part Netflix documentary about him? It was done by the same guy who did the movie. It's pretty interesting. Bundy was by far the most charismatic serial killer ever. He pretty much ran his own trial, playing to the cameras, even making everyone laugh at times. After being found guilty, the judge even told him he would have been an excellent lawyer and he would have enjoyed watching him practice in his court, and then told him he didn't hold any animosity towards him and he should take care of himself. Seriously, it was crazy. I haven't seen the doco, but I recall seeing that clip of the sentencing. I'm sure it would have been a disturbing experience for all involved in the trial, the judge included, and he saw a wasted potential and expressed it as best he could, but that sort of contradicts the context of what the judge surmised by the films title. Surely they could have thought up of something better, or metaphoric\symbolic that is catchy, not a gobful of rhetoric preached by a windbag. I agree, it's not a great title. But I think people are being too quick to say they're making Bundy appear more provacative than he was. The most disturbing thing about his crimes is the fact he could act so normal and likable and still be able to commit them.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 2:28:13 GMT
I agree, it's not a great title. But I think people are being too quick to say they're making Bundy appear more provacative than he was. The most disturbing thing about his crimes is the fact he could act so normal and likable and still be able to commit them. I will see it, but I already have an inkling of how it will be played out and presented and if that then happens to be the case, it will annoy the crap out of me.
I want to be disturbed and shaken and perhaps even exhilarated, and see a disturbed psycho killer shown in all his levels of nuance, from what made him tick, what his fine attributes were down to his flaws, his evil and even his own humanity. I guess I may have too many delusions of grandeur here.
I don't think anyone ever figured out what made Bundy tick. He wouldn't even admit to the crimes until doing so bought him some more time on death row. He supposedly helped the FBI with other serial killer cases. That might be the closest we'll ever get to figuring out what he got out of the crimes he committed. They touched on that briefly in the documentary, but I wish they would have explored it more. IIRC, it was the Green River killer that Bundy helped law enforcement with and Cary Elwes played him in a movie about it.
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Post by them1ghtyhumph on Jan 30, 2019 3:00:59 GMT
The rage and fury inside Ted Bundy has yet to be expressed on film.
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