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Post by geode on Feb 15, 2019 5:52:38 GMT
On the old board at IMDb there once was a pastor who went by Martyrs55 and then Calypsis4. He usually sounded off about his creationist "proofs" that evolution is a fraud, but sometimes he talked about how his team had delivered someone from being bothered by a demon. The board in general was in stitches at one point when he posted a video he claimed was proof, of a floating pendent. The problem was nobody but him could actually see a pendent float in the air. I grew up as a Mormon, and this church claimed to believe in casting out evil spirits but disappointed me by never really doing so. There were really only urban legends. What is the thinking here by theists, especially Christians? Is exorcism or "deliverance" something that actually occurs? Deliverance -link |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2019 6:22:43 GMT
I have no truck with exorcism... It is a dangerous practice.
They are a good film device, and best kept in the realm of fiction.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Feb 15, 2019 10:40:25 GMT
Yes, it actually occurs.
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Post by rizdek on Feb 15, 2019 19:04:26 GMT
How would anyone know if a demon was cast out or not?
I assume folks who believe in demons believe demons are intelligent..at least as intelligent as humans. Certainly some being with a modicum of intelligence, and the wherewithal to deceive someone enough to actually control their minds, could "fake" being "thrown out" but actually remain in control but take a slightly different tack...ie make it "look" like or "feel" life the person has their own life back but really, they would still be at the mercy of the demon.
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Post by goz on Feb 16, 2019 2:59:39 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2019 4:31:02 GMT
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Post by captainbryce on Feb 16, 2019 4:31:17 GMT
How would anyone know if a demon was cast out or not? I assume folks who believe in demons believe demons are intelligent..at least as intelligent as humans. Certainly some being with a modicum of intelligence, and the wherewithal to deceive someone enough to actually control their minds, could "fake" being "thrown out" but actually remain in control but take a slightly different tack...ie make it "look" like or "feel" life the person has their own life back but really, they would still be at the mercy of the demon.
And the lack of answer to that question should effectively end the discussion! But of course, it won't because...you know...theists! |
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Feb 16, 2019 4:34:05 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2019 4:35:54 GMT
No, see... that's not how it works, and you know it. Prove 'it actually occurs'. That was YOUR claim. I await your video 'evidence' from Infowars. |
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Post by geode on Feb 16, 2019 6:57:49 GMT
No, see... that's not how it works, and you know it. Prove 'it actually occurs'. That was YOUR claim. I await your video 'evidence' from Infowars. I wish I had a copy of Martyrs55 video of the Floating Pendant. He was really quite offended that nobody could see evidence of a demon in it. It was basically the same as if you dangled a necklace in front of a camera, and this was the strongest evidence he had on camera. |
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Post by geode on Feb 16, 2019 7:05:04 GMT
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Post by progressiveelement on Feb 16, 2019 23:28:26 GMT
Chainsaw does the trick
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 15:07:04 GMT
I remember somebody once posting a video on the old board that he claimed was an exorcism. It was literally five minutes of a woman lying on the floor pretty much motionless, except that she would roll around a little every now and again. The poster was like "See! Proof positive of demons!"
These kinds of videos are desperate and kind of sad.
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Post by geode on Feb 17, 2019 15:13:12 GMT
I remember somebody once posting a video on the old board that he claimed was an exorcism. It was literally five minutes of a woman lying on the floor pretty much motionless, except that she would roll around a little every now and again. The poster was like "See! Proof positive of demons!" These kinds of videos are desperate and kind of sad. That was Martyrs55 who I mentioned in the OP. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 17:20:47 GMT
I remember somebody once posting a video on the old board that he claimed was an exorcism. It was literally five minutes of a woman lying on the floor pretty much motionless, except that she would roll around a little every now and again. The poster was like "See! Proof positive of demons!" These kinds of videos are desperate and kind of sad. That was Martyrs55 who I mentioned in the OP. Ahh, thanks. |
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Post by general313 on Feb 17, 2019 18:35:39 GMT
I remember somebody once posting a video on the old board that he claimed was an exorcism. It was literally five minutes of a woman lying on the floor pretty much motionless, except that she would roll around a little every now and again. The poster was like "See! Proof positive of demons!" These kinds of videos are desperate and kind of sad. Hopefully those around her weren't confusing a stroke or a bout of epilepsy for demon possession. Now that would be scary. |
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Post by geode on Feb 19, 2019 15:33:54 GMT
I remember somebody once posting a video on the old board that he claimed was an exorcism. It was literally five minutes of a woman lying on the floor pretty much motionless, except that she would roll around a little every now and again. The poster was like "See! Proof positive of demons!" These kinds of videos are desperate and kind of sad. Hopefully those around her weren't confusing a stroke or a bout of epilepsy for demon possession. Now that would be scary. No, because she was "delivered" from being possessed at the end of the video. Well, at least she got up and started talking. |
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Post by captainbryce on Feb 19, 2019 15:51:23 GMT
When I was a kid, I used to think that only other kids believed in fairy tales and monster stories. I assumed that adults were more reasonable, and only believed in things that were real... ...then I grew up, and quickly realized that most adults believe in fairy tales and monster stories too!  |
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Post by thefleetsin on Feb 19, 2019 16:17:00 GMT
so you've been to a ross dress for less store during a millennial's shopping frenzy then.
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