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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Feb 28, 2019 15:33:10 GMT
Thread getting derailed talk about bryan singer, age of ultron and DOFP. This is why this should have been in the x board.
Back on topic, its interesting they didnt show the aliens or who jessica chastains secret character and final form are To be fair, even on the X-Men board, this same stuff would still be brought up for comparison.
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Post by politicidal on Feb 28, 2019 15:38:45 GMT
Yeah, no.
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Post by cricket on Feb 28, 2019 15:47:55 GMT
Yeah there's a bit too much drivel in this thread. Stop insulting each other and stop arguing. Surely you can compare a couple of movies normally. These stupid threads by the 'admins' are always hilarious to me. It is the same 4-5 posters who cause this crap in every single thread. Stop pretending otherwise. I love how you act like you are moderating or something when you are not. You never do. summers8 and DC Fan can hijack every thread on here with their anti-MCU crap and you do not bat an eye. Therefore, anything else pretty much goes. I completely agree. The thread is getting derailed. Derailed by who? let's see: sophie turner facial expressions outdoing brie larson? the worst of xmen is still better than the worst of mcu. still dont think this movie should have been made. the director is inexperienced, the cast is too young to take on such an iconic story. although as medicore this movie could be MCU xmen will still be worse. It's an X-Men movie. What did you expect? This is everything age of ultron should have been It is like you said, 4-5 units are the ones always coming with their hate/insults mission (mainly against everything MCU) to damage any attempt of real conversation. I can even give you the post of the person who started insulting and attacking in this thread (calling another fellow poster idiot), but that should be the moderators job not mine. As always they will go away with no consequences or punishment for their act. The moderators will, as always, turn their heads to the other side and let them go. And what will happen is the usual crap, they will lock the thread punishing everyone else (mostly innocent lurkers) but not the ones who started the $hitting. Classic of V2...
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Post by scabab on Feb 28, 2019 15:48:09 GMT
summers8 and DC Fan can hijack every thread on here with their anti-MCU crap and you do not bat an eye. Therefore, anything else pretty much goes. Because that's not against the rules. Anti-MCU "crap" isn't against the rules. Bringing up other movies as a means of comparison isn't against the rules. If people want to say it looks better or worse than Captain Marvel then they can. I don't control the flow of other people's conversations. I'm not responsible for other people responding to Summers and DC Fans comments. If they don't want to then they don't have to. The only thing I have to do is make sure people don't insult one another. That's it.
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Post by scabab on Feb 28, 2019 15:51:49 GMT
Also now that the thread has gathered the traction that was mentioned in the OP and people are aware of the thread and the trailer, it can now be moved over to the appropriate X-Men board.
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Post by bud47 on Feb 28, 2019 16:12:41 GMT
It's a very dramatic trailer, but it still just looks like more of the same. More of the same tired focus on the same tired characters that seems to lift quite a bit from X3 with a little more drama and darkness thrown in to make it seem more credible. Still not what I expect from a Dark Phoenix adaptation looking to right the wrongs of the previous attempt. So glad that Mystique won't be around for much of the film. It is nice to see some scenes in space, even if it did take them 20 years just to make it to Earth's atmosphere (I gave up on seeing alien worlds or the Shi'Ar empire in a Fox-Men film years ago). Is it me or does it seem like Jean's getting her Phoenix powers again even though she already had them in Apocalypse?
Jessica Chastain is a fine actor and I'm sure she'll lend some credibility here, but just the bland/lazy design of her character seems to echo what's wrong with the Fox-Men films, wearing all black and as generic looking as you can get. She's like a walking metaphor for this franchise. I bet we won't see her true form (if she even has one) until the final minutes of the film. Sophie Turner on the other hand is grating as always. She can't act her way out of a paper bag and it shows in this trailer. I expect a lot of evil staring in place of dialogue.
The rest of the characters (Nightcrawler, Storm, Quicksilver, etc.) as usual seem to be there for their power displays instead of being actual characters with arcs and again no one seems to have aged a day considering the time jumps in these films (Xavier and Magneto, I'm looking at you again).
Thankfully this is the end and we can look forward to something fresh going forward. Charzhino, enjoy this while it lasts.
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Post by charzhino on Feb 28, 2019 16:55:35 GMT
It is a fine adaptation bud, the dark phoenix saga was written as a story to focus on Jeans struggle after gaining too much power, losing control and causing a split in the xmen family. All that is shown as the core beats in the trailer. Its not campy or cheesy, thats a W in my book already.
Yes I will enjoy it, you can wait 5 years for your fresh take on mcu xmen knowing they will never get to the heights of Foxs version again
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Post by summers8 on Feb 28, 2019 17:00:46 GMT
summers8 and DC Fan can hijack every thread on here with their anti-MCU crap and you do not bat an eye. Therefore, anything else pretty much goes. Because that's not against the rules. Anti-MCU "crap" isn't against the rules. Bringing up other movies as a means of comparison isn't against the rules. If people want to say it looks better or worse than Captain Marvel then they can. I don't control the flow of other people's conversations. I'm not responsible for other people responding to Summers and DC Fans comments. If they don't want to then they don't have to. The only thing I have to do is make sure people don't insult one another. That's it. I think this is because we know the best of xmen is now behind us. even you admitted this looks better than captain marvel. and captain marvel is what future xmen will be like so it is a down grade to the top creams of dofp, deadpool, logan, X2.
I still dont think this movie will turn out excellent it just artistically impossible but it will still be better than anything disney does. in fact this year, I will predict JOKER will be the best film. As you know all my prediction turn out right. if dark phoenix even manages to be as good as xmen 1 it is alrady better than endgame and cm since we know those movies will just be cgi and generic story and jokes.
hmmm...wonder if the media will protect this movie as much as they are protecting captain marvel right now, this are really dark times.
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Post by summers8 on Feb 28, 2019 17:02:44 GMT
Thankfully this is the end and we can look forward to something fresh going forward. Charzhino, enjoy this while it lasts. something fresh? the mcu formula? wonder how that is fresh.
did 2017 , 2016or 2014 happen when Logan, Deadpool and DOFP exposed the problem with the mcu formula?
something fresh? this need more depth in explanation.
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Post by summers8 on Feb 28, 2019 17:04:51 GMT
It is a fine adaptation bud, the dark phoenix saga was written as a story to focus on Jeans struggle after gaining too much power, losing control and causing a split in the xmen family. All that is shown as the core beats in the trailer. Its not campy or cheesy, thats a W in my book already. Yes I will enjoy it, you can wait 5 years for your fresh take on mcu xmen knowing they will never get to the heights of Foxs version again The MCU formula is fresh? lol.
Wonder how fresh it was when even the directors of DOFP, deadpool, Logan all admitted their movies were done to be the exact opposite of the mcu formula.
in 5 years the genre will be dead. the genre is already dead look at the rotten state it is now. comic films have no credibility.
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Post by bud47 on Feb 28, 2019 17:30:34 GMT
It is a fine adaptation bud, the dark phoenix saga was written as a story to focus on Jeans struggle after gaining too much power, losing control and causing a split in the xmen family. All that is shown as the core beats in the trailer. Its not campy or cheesy, thats a W in my book already. Yes I will enjoy it, you can wait 5 years for your fresh take on mcu xmen knowing they will never get to the heights of Foxs version again It's an adaptation that's already been done and not well. This film, by the looks of it, looks to tread the same tired ground, just with a little more effort thrown in possibly, which wouldn't be hard to do considering the failure of the previous attempt. Nothing new to see here, nothing we haven't already seen. As usual, you seem to ready and willing to heap lots of praise on this film. Nothing wrong with being shamefully biased. We all tend to be that way. You just prefer these types of comic book films (dark and serious) and hate Disney (the corporate devil). That's at the core of every opinion you have of these films. Oh, I can wait 5 years. I'd actually prefer a longer break, maybe even 10 years. These characters need a break to flush Fox's version, which will be a distant memory by then along with the studio that made them, while the MCU will still be going strong.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Feb 28, 2019 17:33:02 GMT
Should be in the xmen board. Looks amazing! Visually is impressive and loved some of the shots especially the close up of Beast at the funeral and Magnetos indifferent reaction to firing those guns at Jessica Chastain. And the tone is pitch perfect; dark, sinister, serious with a sense of impending doom. Exactly how a dark phoenix adaptation should be. I think they are holding back on showing the big action set pieces of the third act since it was reshot recently and visuals may not be fully rendered yet. But a big compliment would be it doesnt feel or look like X3, as the first trailer did. Agreed, this looks like a solid flick, and I'm usually a critic of this franchise as a whole. Wish they got a better actress for Jean, and there's a strong possibility (given their track record) it'll disappoint, but for right now I'm actually excited to see this.
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Post by scabab on Feb 28, 2019 17:40:58 GMT
I think this is because we know the best of xmen is now behind us. even you admitted this looks better than captain marvel. and captain marvel is what future xmen will be like so it is a down grade to the top creams of dofp, deadpool, logan, X2. That's only because Captain Marvel looks particularly generic from the trailer. It wouldn't be surprising if Captain Marvel was still the better movie though. Some movies are better than the trailers let on and some are worse. Nobody has any idea what the X-Men will look like though. It's unlikely it'll be anything like this though. Apocalypse and this are probably going to be a downgrade from Deadpool and Logan so it's not going to make a difference either way.
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Post by charzhino on Feb 28, 2019 17:53:47 GMT
It is a fine adaptation bud, the dark phoenix saga was written as a story to focus on Jeans struggle after gaining too much power, losing control and causing a split in the xmen family. All that is shown as the core beats in the trailer. Its not campy or cheesy, thats a W in my book already. Yes I will enjoy it, you can wait 5 years for your fresh take on mcu xmen knowing they will never get to the heights of Foxs version again The MCU formula is fresh? lol.
Wonder how fresh it was when even the directors of DOFP, deadpool, Logan all admitted their movies were done to be the exact opposite of the mcu formula.
in 5 years the genre will be dead. the genre is already dead look at the rotten state it is now. comic films have no credibility.
The genre will take a huge downswing after Endgame as the some of the OG Avengers are retired and the Thanos storyline is done. Who knows what the landscape will be like in 5 years but I cant see it being rosey as last 10 years.
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Post by charzhino on Feb 28, 2019 17:56:11 GMT
It is a fine adaptation bud, the dark phoenix saga was written as a story to focus on Jeans struggle after gaining too much power, losing control and causing a split in the xmen family. All that is shown as the core beats in the trailer. Its not campy or cheesy, thats a W in my book already. Yes I will enjoy it, you can wait 5 years for your fresh take on mcu xmen knowing they will never get to the heights of Foxs version again It's an adaptation that's already been done and not well. This film, by the looks of it, looks to tread the same tired ground, just with a little more effort thrown in possibly, which wouldn't be hard to do considering the failure of the previous attempt. Nothing new to see here, nothing we haven't already seen. As usual, you seem to ready and willing to heap lots of praise on this film. Nothing wrong with being shamefully biased. We all tend to be that way. You just prefer these types of comic book films (dark and serious) and hate Disney (the corporate devil). That's at the core of every opinion you have of these films. Oh, I can wait 5 years. I'd actually prefer a longer break, maybe even 10 years. These characters need a break to flush Fox's version, which will be a distant memory by then along with the studio that made them, while the MCU will still be going strong. Then your problem is them adapting dark phoenix again and not this particular movie. Not throwing any prais, just judging the trailer from what i see
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Post by charzhino on Feb 28, 2019 17:57:45 GMT
Should be in the xmen board. Looks amazing! Visually is impressive and loved some of the shots especially the close up of Beast at the funeral and Magnetos indifferent reaction to firing those guns at Jessica Chastain. And the tone is pitch perfect; dark, sinister, serious with a sense of impending doom. Exactly how a dark phoenix adaptation should be. I think they are holding back on showing the big action set pieces of the third act since it was reshot recently and visuals may not be fully rendered yet. But a big compliment would be it doesnt feel or look like X3, as the first trailer did. Agreed, this looks like a solid flick, and I'm usually a critic of this franchise as a whole. Wish they got a better actress for Jean, and there's a strong possibility (given their track record) it'll disappoint, but for right now I'm actually excited to see this. Not a big fan of Sophie Turner either but not much can do but hope she pulls off a half decent performance
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Post by bud47 on Feb 28, 2019 18:13:23 GMT
It's an adaptation that's already been done and not well. This film, by the looks of it, looks to tread the same tired ground, just with a little more effort thrown in possibly, which wouldn't be hard to do considering the failure of the previous attempt. Nothing new to see here, nothing we haven't already seen. As usual, you seem to ready and willing to heap lots of praise on this film. Nothing wrong with being shamefully biased. We all tend to be that way. You just prefer these types of comic book films (dark and serious) and hate Disney (the corporate devil). That's at the core of every opinion you have of these films. Oh, I can wait 5 years. I'd actually prefer a longer break, maybe even 10 years. These characters need a break to flush Fox's version, which will be a distant memory by then along with the studio that made them, while the MCU will still be going strong. Then your problem is them adapting dark phoenix again and not this particular movie. Not throwing any prais, just judging the trailer from what i see I'd say it's a little of both. They're adapting the Dark Phoenix storyline again to make up for the previous muck-up. Just like DOFP, Logan and the Deadpool films were done to make up for their previous muck-ups. Fox was headed down a path of making nothing but apology X-Men films instead of doing something new (New Mutants notwithstanding). They probably would have ended up doing another Apocalypse film to make up for that one. The problems with the movie itself is that they appear to be redoing a lot of the same beats as X3, just with different characters and actors. I'm sure there are already Youtube videos out there covering the similarities.
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Post by DC-Fan on Feb 28, 2019 19:29:05 GMT
Yeah there's a bit too much drivel in this thread. Stop insulting each other and stop arguing. Surely you can compare a couple of movies normally. These stupid threads by the 'admins' are always hilarious to me. It is the same 4-5 posters who cause this crap in every single thread. Stop pretending otherwise. I love how you act like you are moderating or something when you are not. You never do. summers8 and DC Fan can hijack every thread on here with their anti-MCU crap and you do not bat an eye. Therefore, anything else pretty much goes. So you want to censor all cticism of MCU here, the same way that RT is censoring all criticism of MCU there?
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Post by charzhino on Feb 28, 2019 21:01:02 GMT
vimeo.com/320558530International trailer, has a lot more footage. They should have released this as the official one, much better.
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Post by kleinreturns on Feb 28, 2019 21:08:09 GMT
Yeah there's a bit too much drivel in this thread. Stop insulting each other and stop arguing. Surely you can compare a couple of movies normally. These stupid threads by the 'admins' are always hilarious to me. It is the same 4-5 posters who cause this crap in every single thread. Stop pretending otherwise. I love how you act like you are moderating or something when you are not. You never do. summers8 and DC Fan can hijack every thread on here with their anti-MCU crap and you do not bat an eye. Therefore, anything else pretty much goes. ^^^This.
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