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Post by poutinep on Mar 1, 2019 19:06:45 GMT
It’s official, the DCEU is dead, with Warner Bros’ chief Kevin Tsujihara confirming the studio has moved away from the idea of a connected universe for its DC superhero properties – otherwise known as the DC Extended Universe.
“The universe isn’t as connected as we thought it was going to be five years ago,” Tsujihara told The LA Times. “You’re seeing much more focus on individual experiences around individual characters. That’s not to say we won’t at some point come back to that notion of a more connected universe. But it feels like that’s the right strategy for us right now.”
And who’s responsible for the death of the interconnected DCEU? Wonder Woman.
“What Patty Jenkins did on Wonder Woman illustrated to us what you could do with these characters who are not Batman and Superman. Obviously, we want to get those two in the right place, and we want strong movies around Batman and Superman. But Aquaman is a perfect example of what we can do. They’re each unique and the tone’s different in each movie.”
So, it appears that sometimes heroes don’t wear capes – Wonder Woman seems to have done more to secure the future of Warner Brothers DC movies than Batman or Superman, which is an astonishing achievement. 2017’s Justice League was intended to be the culmination of Warner Bros.’ DCEU, bringing together Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Flash, and Cyborg, but that crashed and burned, changing directors halfway through and undergoing extensive reshoots, which led to an over-baked and under-proved mess of a film.
The film grossed £496 million worldwide against a break-even point of £566 million, making it the lowest overall gross of the DCEU. It’s clear a course correction was overdue.
Tsujihara continued, “The upcoming slate, with Shazam, Joker, Wonder Woman 1984 and Birds of Prey, feels like we’re on the right track. We have the right people in the right jobs working on it.”
Those ‘right people’ include Patty Jenkins returning for Wonder Woman 1984, David Sandberg heading up Shazam, Todd Phillips directing Joker, and Margot Robbie collaborating with Cathy Yan for Birds of Prey (And the Fantabulous Emancipation of One Harley Quinn), which sounds like a strong line up to us (even if we do hate that full Birds Of Prey title).
You’ll be able to see Shazam first, it’s in UK cinemas next month – landing on 5 April.
what a shame...so much wasted potential.
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Post by politicidal on Mar 1, 2019 19:15:19 GMT
I wouldn’t take it at face value. Kevin seems like the guy that’d change his mind on a dime. Should they get some guy five years from now that says “hey I can deliver a better Justice League movie”, they’ll reverse course.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Mar 1, 2019 19:29:23 GMT
Nerds hate women so much, they're blaming one because their movie was too good!
It's thanks to Zack Snyder. Under anyone else but a grimdark manchild, a Batman/Superman movie would have been a slam dunk commercially and critically. Said decent B/S movie would lead to people actually wanting to see Justice League and so forth.
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Post by kleinreturns on Mar 1, 2019 20:38:36 GMT
Nerds hate women so much, they're blaming one because their movie was too good! It's thanks to Zack Snyder. Under anyone else but a grimdark manchild, a Batman/Superman movie would have been a slam dunk commercially and critically. Said decent B/S movie would lead to people actually wanting to see Justice League and so forth. ^^^This. Great Avatar BTW.
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Post by Gourmando the Reindeer on Mar 8, 2019 22:48:26 GMT
The whole idea was approached the wrong way and too quickly.
Superman vs Doomsday and his death, one of the greatest, most iconic and multi issue events in DC history...and the WB people shoehorn it into the last 20 minutes of BvS.
Ugh!
A shared universe should have started off or instead of BvS it should have been based on the Batman/Superman: Public Enemies story where they team up and it would have been fun to see Lex Luthor (not that twerp Essienberg) as President sending Hawkman and. Captain Atom and maybe replace Shazam with Firestorm, after them
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Post by Archelaus on Mar 9, 2019 0:36:19 GMT
They have completely misunderstood the reaction to Justice League. It wasn't a rejection of the shared universe concept, but the failure of doing it too rushed. While I liked that they are focusing on standalone films for now, I don't feel there's a point of doing so many if they don't built up to something.
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Post by politicidal on Mar 10, 2019 1:49:50 GMT
They have completely misunderstood the reaction to Justice League. It was a rejection of the shared universe concept, but the failure of doing it too rushed. While I liked that they are focusing on standalone films for now, I don't feel there's a point of doing so many if they don't built up to something. *wasn't* I guess you meant?
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Post by Archelaus on Mar 10, 2019 2:21:17 GMT
They have completely misunderstood the reaction to Justice League. It was a rejection of the shared universe concept, but the failure of doing it too rushed. While I liked that they are focusing on standalone films for now, I don't feel there's a point of doing so many if they don't built up to something. *wasn't* I guess you meant? Thanks for catching that.
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Post by nemesis617 on Mar 10, 2019 23:14:58 GMT
They have completely misunderstood the reaction to Justice League. It wasn't a rejection of the shared universe concept, but the failure of doing it too rushed. While I liked that they are focusing on standalone films for now, I don't feel there's a point of doing so many if they don't built up to something. ^^^This. Collaboration efforts for the DC are going in the wrong direction. Standalone films seem to be working better.
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Post by syafiqjabar on Mar 11, 2019 7:31:20 GMT
Nerds hate women so much, they're blaming one because their movie was too good! It's thanks to Zack Snyder. Under anyone else but a grimdark manchild, a Batman/Superman movie would have been a slam dunk commercially and critically. Said decent B/S movie would lead to people actually wanting to see Justice League and so forth. BvS did pretty well commercially, if not critically. I'm pretty Zack sure was very supportive of Wonder Woman too. He drafted the overarching story too. Guess you hate Wonder Woman as well. In any case "Zack Snyder Black N****r The Grim Dark" is a myth anyway. His movies were about heroes finding their humanity in a world hostile to it and bringing light to a dark world, and WW even had this element.
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Post by syafiqjabar on Mar 11, 2019 7:36:01 GMT
LOL @ another "DCEU" is dead post.
It will continue to exist, they're just not obsessed with making every movie reference another. The comic books are actually well less connected than the movies yet they exist in the same universe just the same.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Mar 11, 2019 8:14:28 GMT
Nerds hate women so much, they're blaming one because their movie was too good! It's thanks to Zack Snyder. Under anyone else but a grimdark manchild, a Batman/Superman movie would have been a slam dunk commercially and critically. Said decent B/S movie would lead to people actually wanting to see Justice League and so forth. BvS did pretty well commercially, if not critically. I'm pretty Zack sure was very supportive of Wonder Woman too. He drafted the overarching story too. Guess you hate Wonder Woman as well. In any case "Zack Snyder Black N****r The Grim Dark" is a myth anyway. His movies were about heroes finding their humanity in a world hostile to it and bringing light to a dark world, and WW even had this element. Where the hell did that come from? As much as I'd like to pin a medal on Snyder for combining the plots of The First Avenger and Thor 1, the overarching story of Wonder Woman is not why it's a good movie. When did Superman bring light in MoS or BvS? When the invalid graffitied "False God" on his statue? And $800 and something million is great for the third Thor movie. It's a little less hot for the first ever Batman/Superman movie. |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Mar 12, 2019 18:49:30 GMT
They have completely misunderstood the reaction to Justice League. It wasn't a rejection of the shared universe concept, but the failure of doing it too rushed. While I liked that they are focusing on standalone films for now, I don't feel there's a point of doing so many if they don't built up to something. period.
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