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Post by kls on Mar 13, 2019 0:15:44 GMT
Most adults who think they can do it (properly or even at a level beyond barely being legible) are mistaken. I've seen many people with script writing worse than mine who believe they have mastered it. I'm just not deluded. Bull, thereβs a difference between sloppy writing and taking your time to write properly. I typically sign my name in a hurry so itβs not neat but if I write a thank you or sign a birthday card I take my time. If I take my time when I write in script folks can read it. You can tell what the letters are meant to be. I'm just not going to pretend I form all the letters properly.
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Post by kls on Mar 13, 2019 0:16:25 GMT
I'd say the idea is to get the ideas down as a rough draft then editing comes next. Yea because 1st and 2nd graders have such deep thoughts and great ideas. To heck with spelling and writing. BASICS are being ignored. If they edit it how is spelling being ignored?
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Post by CynicalDreamer2 on Mar 13, 2019 0:21:06 GMT
Yea because 1st and 2nd graders have such deep thoughts and great ideas.Β To heck with spelling and writing. BASICS are being ignored. If they edit it how is spelling being ignored? How can they edit if they canβt spell?
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Post by BATouttaheck on Mar 13, 2019 0:21:13 GMT
Teach them the correct way and save the time spent having to re-teach them !
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Post by kls on Mar 13, 2019 0:23:04 GMT
Teach them the correct way and save the time spent having to re-teach them ! No need to ever revise?
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Post by BATouttaheck on Mar 13, 2019 0:24:59 GMT
Reading comprehension seems to have not been taught for a while now too ! Getting a tad dizzy talking in circles.
Getting no answer as to WHY NOT TEACH Handwriting ? and Whether or not the USA is the only place that has dropped it from the curriculum ?. until then
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Post by kls on Mar 13, 2019 0:30:10 GMT
Reading comprehension seems to have not been taught for a while now too ! Getting a tad dizzy talking in circles.
Getting no answer as to WHY NOT TEACH Handwriting ? and Whether or not the USA is the only place that has dropped it from the curriculum ?. until then If it's a tool that helps a student express him or herself teach it. If not let them print. The purpose of writing is communication. some people may be better served by one, others by the different method.
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Mar 13, 2019 3:41:58 GMT
First, I am a bit baffled that this thread had gotten this long. This is not rocket science or brain surgery. I was taught to print in second grade, and taught cursive in fourth grade, in a public school in the late 1950's. If one cannot read or write clearly, it is difficult to communicate, which is necessary to do well in our society. It is worth the time, in those grades, to set a proper foundation on which much communication is based. But, unless the student has dyslexia or some other condition, it's not that hard to do.
Years later, in college, as part of my art training, I learned calligraphy. We would study each type face, and practice it's execution by copying quotations. I have written in Old English, Chancery Cursive, German Blackletter and a variety of other typefaces. It's simple imitation and practice.
I write in block letters usually, for clarity, though I write in all caps but with a larger initial cap. Most people have been able to read it easily. If I am making proofreading corrections, I use Cap and lower case. I do sign my name in cursive, and can write a greeting card or thank you letter in cursive.
It's a matter of taking the time to do the task well. It's like learning to add before you can tackle algebra.
Edit:
The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.
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Post by klandersen on Mar 13, 2019 13:11:33 GMT
What is the excuse being given for no longer teaching "handwriting" aka "penmanship" aka "cursive" writing ? I think computer technology has a bit to contribute to it and with the internet even more so. Everything is being done by computer now. Instead of notepads and pen/pencils kids have laptops and iPads. Traditional writing isn't needed when you can just type everything. It also "saves" the trees. The internet and the cloud stores the schoolwork electronically so a hardcopy isn't needed unless you really want one. I guess.
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Post by kuatorises on Mar 13, 2019 13:54:27 GMT
When and why did people stop writing and/or learning to write? This seems weird to me! Itβs sad but a lot of schools no longer teach it and people in general write less and care even less about penmanship. Why is that sad?
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Post by CynicalDreamer2 on Mar 13, 2019 20:57:22 GMT
Itβs sad but a lot of schools no longer teach it and people in general write less and care even less about penmanship. Why is that sad? Because I believe in learning the basics and writing is one of them. Caring about whether or not your writing is legible is another.
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Post by QueenB on Mar 14, 2019 0:37:31 GMT
Yes, I can read it (when it's legible) and write it. Although lately when I write, (especially when I have to write fast) it's sort of a combination of printing and cursive. I always sign my name in cursive though.
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Post by kuatorises on Mar 14, 2019 14:13:19 GMT
Because I believe in learning the basics and writing is one of them. Caring about whether or not your writing is legible is another. Cursive is a style penmanship, not "writing".
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Post by Lucy on Mar 14, 2019 16:26:23 GMT
Yes, I've learned it in 1st grade, but these days I much prefer to write in print.
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Post by louise on Mar 14, 2019 17:02:22 GMT
yes, though my writing isn't very neat.
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Post by kls on Mar 14, 2019 21:47:57 GMT
Because I believe in learning the basics and writing is one of them. Caring about whether or not your writing is legible is another. Cursive is a style penmanship, not "writing". I agree. I mean getting it down on paper or electronically is part of the writing process, but I can't see why script would be valued over printing in general. I don't get why it's supposedly superior.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Mar 14, 2019 22:14:08 GMT
klsBUT who has said that it is "superior"? What are you saying people are saying it is superior to ? IMO, It is a skill that there seems to be no logical reason to let disappear.
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Post by kls on Mar 14, 2019 22:15:42 GMT
kls BUT who has said that it is "superior"? What are you saying people are saying it is superior to ? IMO, It is a skill that there seems to be no logical reason to let disappear. There are plenty of folks on this thread pretty much saying printing is inferior and not real writing.
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Post by Catman on Mar 14, 2019 22:18:04 GMT
Just for the fun of it, Catman used to indulge in calligraphy. He also used to indulge in origami.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Mar 14, 2019 22:27:59 GMT
CatmanI have sets of both calligraphy pens and fancy origami paper and how to books on each β¦ absolutely no skill however in either one !
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