Post by stargazer1682 on Mar 13, 2019 3:51:29 GMT
Can someone crack a window, his episode pretty much stunk up the place.
You know that thing Legends of Tomorrow does, where they're self-referential and it's lame, because they acknowledge how lame they are, but it doesn't actually change the lameness? We seem to have come to the same point with The Flash and all of the pep talks, yet they know that they do the pep talks, they lack any self-awareness of how ridiculous it is for Barry to think he just needs to come up with a really good, thought provoking speech and just like that all of the world's problems are solved. Obviously the first time wasn't going to talk Cicada down, but the second time would; even though the first speech was arguably better and probably should have lent more easily to make him consider his niece, even though they didn't know Grace was a meta yet. That was one of the first things I thought they should have brought up, if they were going to appeal to his humanity.
But there again, why even give him a choice in the matter? Joe said it himself, this guy was going to jail for a long time; it's not like he was going to take the cure and go merrily on his way.
Can we talk a moment about Cecile using her powers in the interrogation? Seriously, who wrote any of that? And they're getting paid for this shit? How was her turning to Joe and fiddling with her ring supposed to be subtle? And how was the second time different than the first? For that matter, how was Cecile useful at all during the second time? Anyone idiot could have guessed most of the times when the doctor wasn't being completely forthcoming; and if Joe already knew the doctor lost someone in Zoom's siege of the city, he could just as easily have figured out how much pain that would have caused her. He certainly didn't need Cecile to indicate... I don't even know what, when the doctor said she wanted to get back to work and Joe says he could stay there all night. If anything, that's the moment Cecile should have sit back and allowed Joe do his thing as a cop; because the entire scene was Joe watching Cecile give him ambiguous tells - tells that were supposed to indicate the doctor was lying, but lying about what? They never seemed to catch her in a lie about something, so far as I could tell; every response she gave simply requied them to press a little harder, ostensibly with questions no different than if Cecile had no powers at all.
For that matter, in spite of the fact that the doctor wasn't exactly on the up and up and had been helping Cicada, I'm not entirely comfortable with Cecile using her powers that way. I get the idea of her "using her powers for good, to catch criminals, blah, blah, blah," but I feel like this violates people's rights somehow; maybe their Miranda rights? I mean, for one thing, could police just compel any person of interest into taking a lie detector test while answering questions; or wouldn't you need a court order, under some very specific circumstances where it's warranted (with the caveat that in real life their accuracy isn't isn't as infallible as Cecile's powers)? At the very least, it seems like people should be able to hold something back if they wanted, for better or worse; they have the right to remain silent - yet Cecile can pickup anything you don't say and conceivably use it against you....
There's something about that I just can't get behind.
The final climax of the episode was interesting, but muted by the fact that it was kind of predictable who the new Cicada was going to turn out to be. I also couldn't help but think this should have been their mid-season finale a couple of months ago, with a lot of the story paced to bring this about much earlier.
The first Cicada seemed pretty unintimidating in this episode, especially with him growling his dialog sans mask. It reminded me more of Mick on Legends, who himself has become a caricature. There was just something about him that wasn't working in the episode; and Barry actually getting through to him the way he did made it worse - especially when he tried to have it both ways, "I'm going to trust you implicitly, to put stuff in my body, but this better not be a double cross! 'Cause then I'll have to kill all of you to death!"
And how the hell did Barry speed Cicada to Star Labs? Doesn't Cicada's dagger negate meta powers? Barry even comments that his powers are back when Cicada receives the cure?
How will Team Flash handle the doctor's murder? Will they call the cops and explain what transpired in their secret lair? Or will they just haul her out to the desert and dig a hole?
The question of the hour is, is Grace/NuCicada a time traveler or did Grace's meta powers somehow age her? Follow up question, in either event, should I care?
The answer to the last one, is no.....
You know that thing Legends of Tomorrow does, where they're self-referential and it's lame, because they acknowledge how lame they are, but it doesn't actually change the lameness? We seem to have come to the same point with The Flash and all of the pep talks, yet they know that they do the pep talks, they lack any self-awareness of how ridiculous it is for Barry to think he just needs to come up with a really good, thought provoking speech and just like that all of the world's problems are solved. Obviously the first time wasn't going to talk Cicada down, but the second time would; even though the first speech was arguably better and probably should have lent more easily to make him consider his niece, even though they didn't know Grace was a meta yet. That was one of the first things I thought they should have brought up, if they were going to appeal to his humanity.
But there again, why even give him a choice in the matter? Joe said it himself, this guy was going to jail for a long time; it's not like he was going to take the cure and go merrily on his way.
Can we talk a moment about Cecile using her powers in the interrogation? Seriously, who wrote any of that? And they're getting paid for this shit? How was her turning to Joe and fiddling with her ring supposed to be subtle? And how was the second time different than the first? For that matter, how was Cecile useful at all during the second time? Anyone idiot could have guessed most of the times when the doctor wasn't being completely forthcoming; and if Joe already knew the doctor lost someone in Zoom's siege of the city, he could just as easily have figured out how much pain that would have caused her. He certainly didn't need Cecile to indicate... I don't even know what, when the doctor said she wanted to get back to work and Joe says he could stay there all night. If anything, that's the moment Cecile should have sit back and allowed Joe do his thing as a cop; because the entire scene was Joe watching Cecile give him ambiguous tells - tells that were supposed to indicate the doctor was lying, but lying about what? They never seemed to catch her in a lie about something, so far as I could tell; every response she gave simply requied them to press a little harder, ostensibly with questions no different than if Cecile had no powers at all.
For that matter, in spite of the fact that the doctor wasn't exactly on the up and up and had been helping Cicada, I'm not entirely comfortable with Cecile using her powers that way. I get the idea of her "using her powers for good, to catch criminals, blah, blah, blah," but I feel like this violates people's rights somehow; maybe their Miranda rights? I mean, for one thing, could police just compel any person of interest into taking a lie detector test while answering questions; or wouldn't you need a court order, under some very specific circumstances where it's warranted (with the caveat that in real life their accuracy isn't isn't as infallible as Cecile's powers)? At the very least, it seems like people should be able to hold something back if they wanted, for better or worse; they have the right to remain silent - yet Cecile can pickup anything you don't say and conceivably use it against you....
There's something about that I just can't get behind.
The final climax of the episode was interesting, but muted by the fact that it was kind of predictable who the new Cicada was going to turn out to be. I also couldn't help but think this should have been their mid-season finale a couple of months ago, with a lot of the story paced to bring this about much earlier.
The first Cicada seemed pretty unintimidating in this episode, especially with him growling his dialog sans mask. It reminded me more of Mick on Legends, who himself has become a caricature. There was just something about him that wasn't working in the episode; and Barry actually getting through to him the way he did made it worse - especially when he tried to have it both ways, "I'm going to trust you implicitly, to put stuff in my body, but this better not be a double cross! 'Cause then I'll have to kill all of you to death!"
And how the hell did Barry speed Cicada to Star Labs? Doesn't Cicada's dagger negate meta powers? Barry even comments that his powers are back when Cicada receives the cure?
How will Team Flash handle the doctor's murder? Will they call the cops and explain what transpired in their secret lair? Or will they just haul her out to the desert and dig a hole?
The question of the hour is, is Grace/NuCicada a time traveler or did Grace's meta powers somehow age her? Follow up question, in either event, should I care?
The answer to the last one, is no.....
Sarah Carter is the future Grace who is the new Cicada with extra powers!! It is great to see Sarah return to a DC Show and I would have rather seen her play a superhero role but I am happy she is back on TV 'cause they have been wasting her since 'Falling Skies' finished and she hasn't released any new music in a while. For members who might not be aware Sarah was originally meant to be Supergirl in 'Smallville' but they gave her the role of Alicia instead 'cause they weren't sure if they were going to be able to use Supergirl at the time. I think Laura fitted the role more but I would have preferred Sarah over Melissa for the show. 
