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Post by stargazer1682 on Mar 13, 2019 4:16:11 GMT
This episode was about as stupid as I expected it to be after seeing the Arrow Facebook page tease their training with a photo. Worst sequel to Police Academy ever, which includes the one where they go to Russia; which I haven't seen, but I assume is dreadful. How are any of the members of Team Mad Dog working under any delusion that working under the auspices of the SCPD, as deputized law enforcement means they get to do any of the things they'd done to date; let alone, you know... beak the law?? Seriously, they thought they were going to get to parade around in their costumes? Why? Why would anyone thing that? You're literally cops now, cops don't wear hoods, or use a bow and arrow! Is all this bullshit just intended to single out Dinah as the person trying to walk in both worlds; so they can showcase her identity crisis after losing her canary cry? And why am I not surprised she lost her cry? Oh, because I saw it coming the moment she got injured; especially since they've been telegraphing their plan to make Laurel the Black Canary.... Hooray Felicity is still pregnant; and she's not going to tell anyone, but John, because... reasons.......... Just fuck you show, honestly..... If we weren't so close to the finish line, I'd seriously contemplate not watching anymore, but we're so close, I might as well see it through. It's almost like watching a car wreck crash with morbid fascination. No, Oliver, you idiot; you can't just put on your leather, threaten a person's life and follow that up with, "You have the right to remain silent" and act like he fell for your trap..... that's not how that works. That's not how anything works. Yet Felicity goes, "I can't believe they threw his confession out." Really? Why? Why can't you believe the thing that was so blatantly obvious?? And of course they were right to do their own thing all along. The mayor has the anti-vigilante law on her desk to sign a repeal or some bullshit; because that wouldn't have to be a bill the city council would have to take up and vote on first. And the team is back in the bunker, doing their own thing, acting as.... the Star City PD's own personal black opps team.....? That..... doesn't sound reassuring for a police department to have a black opps team. A Swat team, yeah, but black ops for city law enforcement sounds questionable; and they dropped the whole anti-vigilante law really quickly. Remember last year when Oliver was may or and all the bullshit he had to put up with? No? Yeah, me neither.... But this just leaves me with the lingering question, why they weren't just sanctioned as a black opps team for say, Argu? Like, last year before Oliver even went to jail; and this whole time they could have been performing missions for Argus...... Oh, yeah, then some stupid shit happened.... 20 years from now; where they need a 40 year old tape based answering machine that still works, which William happens to stumble on to, but apparently suffers a temporary brain injury or aneurysm or something that makes him a complete idiot, so his sister can come save his ass for being so fucking naive. And I can't imagine when it might have come up, but I feel like Oliver's daughter should have known what he used to say back in his vigilante days. I'm over this crap of Felicity acting like she's William's mother; especially if we're to believe that after sending him away to his grandparents. That means she was only his step-mother for barely a year; and then never contacted him again for 20 years....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 7:34:17 GMT
We haven't seen the latest episode yet stargazer1682 and plan on watching it tomorrow 'cause we are going to see The Eagles tonight with my Aunt and Uncle and will be watching the rest of 'Raw' and 'Smackdown' when we come home but that doesn't sound too promising and it is a shame 'Arrow' has fallen so low lately and you can definitely see why it is getting cancelled but like you I am going to continue watching it 'cause I want to see how it ends and maybe they will surprise us and the final season will pick up. I just said to Dazz on another thread they have a chance to bring back a lot of characters in the final season we haven't seen for a while and they will most likely have a big villain for the end that will be the biggest challenge the characters have faced. Hopefully it is better than this season 'cause this one has been embarrassing and there were so many better things they could have done. I mean they could have had Talia as the main villain with Lady Shiva and the League of Shadows or brought back Cyrus Gold and made him Solomon Grundy.
Do you think we should ask Admin if he could change the name of the 'Arrow' board once the shows ends since all the other shows are continuing and we could have it as 'The Flash', 'Supergirl', 'Titans', 'DC TV Shows', 'Superhero Shows' or 'Comic Book Shows.'
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Post by DC-Fan on Mar 13, 2019 15:23:01 GMT
Do you think we should ask Admin if he could change the name of the 'Arrow' board once the shows ends since all the other shows are continuing and we could have it as 'The Flash', 'Supergirl', 'Titans', 'DC TV Shows', 'Superhero Shows' or 'Comic Book Shows.' Yes, the name should be changed since this board has threads about the other shows besides Arrow.
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Post by General Kenobi on Mar 13, 2019 19:02:36 GMT
We should change it to the Scooby-Doo board! Who's with me?!?
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Post by dazz on Mar 14, 2019 2:01:41 GMT
The board really should have been Arrowverse from the start as we never stuck to just talking Arrow, but DC TV would be a suitable name for it also, we should also have a Marvel TV board or just have this as the Superhero/Comic TV board and let it be a free for all.
As for the episode, god it was dumb as fuck, I do kind of get why they thought the could be as they were, Oliver and Wild Dog have been running around in their get ups for a while now, but also having the entire team rather than 1 or 2 members requires a different approach which those mental incompetents couldn't see coming.
Although the SCPD and the Mayor's attitude is bullshit, you bunch of fucking morons Star/Starling Cities infrastructure has been corrupt for decades, the this is how we do things bullshit doesn't fly when you have been shown repeatedly to be corrupt, incompetent and just plain annoying for years, also the attitude is hilarious considering without Team Arrow they would all be fucking dead!! Do they forget Oliver and co stopped Dahrk's nuclear apocalypse?? how about a little fucking gratitude you stupid bunch of cunts.
The Dinah thing was so stupid, I'm not the canary without my cry, she says to Renee whose skill is he's a shitty shot and wields dual handguns, let alone she is the ONLY meta on Team Arrow, so fucking dumb, and obvious we all knew it was coming from the fact she's not been shown using her power in the future and apart from the grey the only big difference we have been shown is her scar on her neck so her getting hurt and losing her cry has been obviously telegraphed all season.
Oh yeah the Felicity thing is so stupid, not just with her but William also, like you said she was his step mother for less than a year before shipping him off and making no contact for 2 decades, what the fuck is this shit? Also pissed neither Mia or William rolled their eyes at Felicity's "heartfelt" message which she immediately shifts into barking orders, such an obvious ploy at emotional manipulation and one of them should have acknowledged it as her go to bullshit.
Also the Emiko stuff was stupid, as was her what threat or reveal that she knows who Laurel really is, like yeah as does everyone else who matters, and Siren's atleast proven herself enough to not just be a shit stirrer for what she had to tell Oliver and co shouldn't just be dismissed, but then this shows hit the skids so fuck knows what they plan on doing and I am really not caring anymore.
Anyone else feel we owe the General a round of applause for being the only one smart enough to pack it in before this bullshit? You sir Kenobi were wise indeed.
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Post by stargazer1682 on Mar 14, 2019 2:24:55 GMT
Anyone else feel we owe the General a round of applause for being the only one smart enough to pack it in before this bullshit? You sir Kenobi were wise indeed. Meh, I stuck through 10 seasons of Smallville, which by my estimate is about 5 years longer than it should have stayed on (sorry @deblovesbeccy); so a show's got to get pretty bad for me to just say fuck it (**cough**Revolution**cough**)
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Post by dazz on Mar 14, 2019 4:13:06 GMT
Anyone else feel we owe the General a round of applause for being the only one smart enough to pack it in before this bullshit? You sir Kenobi were wise indeed. Meh, I stuck through 10 seasons of Smallville, which by my estimate is about 5 years longer than it should have stayed on (sorry @deblovesbeccy ); so a show's got to get pretty bad for me to just say fuck it (**cough**Revolution**cough**) You watch your bloody tongue or I will have you, you cheeky little monkey.
Smallville was a damn good show, yeah it had weak parts but at the same time parts of the later seasons are some of my fav, only thing I ever truly hated about Smallville was the Lana stuff, mostly past S3 which yeah got worse season by season, but other than that I don't think it took too big a drop after S5, I like the action stuff and mythology stuff in S6-10 far more than I did some of the more boring S1 & 2 MOTW episodes.
But I mean theres a decline in quality and then theres this shit, sad thing is how well thew season started with the prison stuff, I mean sure they also were deranged with you know any of the Felicity plot but still the show had promise to it, now it's like they just don't care anymore.
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Post by stargazer1682 on Mar 14, 2019 4:23:14 GMT
Pretty much everything after Jonathan died was garbage; including the episode where he died. The only saving grace would be Lionel and maybe Oliver/Green Arrow. And even that they had to piss on with the fucking Chloe/Oliver relationship. Seriously why is it so fucking hard to just put the Green Arrow with the God damn Black Canary?
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Post by dazz on Mar 14, 2019 4:29:59 GMT
Actress got pregnant iirc and was unavailable, they were leaning into going that way before hand though with the two flirting and sending dirty emails iirc.
And nah the show still had it's good bits, nothing non Lana related ever got as bad as the crap they did with that character, admittedly her storylines post S5 were fucking atrocious and ridiculous even for a superhero show on the CW in the mid 2000's which tells you have fucking awful that shit was.
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Post by DC-Fan on Mar 14, 2019 4:45:44 GMT
The board really should have been Arrowverse from the start as we never stuck to just talking Arrow, but DC TV would be a suitable name for it also, we should also have a Marvel TV board or just have this as the Superhero/Comic TV board and let it be a free for all. Will CW still refer to it as the Arrowverse after Arrow ends? Smallville was a damn good show Smallville as good, until Erica Durance showed up. She was the worst Lois Lane ever and completely ruined the show.
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Post by stargazer1682 on Mar 14, 2019 5:01:10 GMT
Actress got pregnant iirc and was unavailable, they were leaning into going that way before hand though with the two flirting and sending dirty emails iirc. And she got cast on Stargate Universe, but they could have recast. I would have preferred it; I didn't care for her as Black Canary anyway. On SGU for that matter.... Dark Kent. The frozen suit The Red Leather Suit Lex becomes Zod The.... "Red/Blue Blur"..... Pretty much everything with AI Jor-El - he was a dick Chloe's meta powers Clark and Lois' entire farce of a career. Kara Clone Zod Hawkman "Deathstroke" Clark putting Doomsday into a bearhug and throwing him down a well.... It took Clark 10 fucking years to fly... The entire New Gods story in the last season and it's tedious resolution in the barn... Lois and Clark's failed wedding - so they wait 8 fucking years... And the tiny fucking CGI Superman..... Tom Welling awkwardly walking at camera for the stupid, anticlimactic shirt reveal.... It was so bad, I wrote my own version of the finale and put it up on Tumblr as fan fiction. I introduced a proper version of Barry Allen, "played" by Zachary Levi; and recast Black Canary with Yvonne Strahovski.
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Post by dazz on Mar 14, 2019 5:41:16 GMT
Actress got pregnant iirc and was unavailable, they were leaning into going that way before hand though with the two flirting and sending dirty emails iirc. And she got cast on Stargate Universe, but they could have recast. I would have preferred it; I didn't care for her as Black Canary anyway. On SGU for that matter.... Dark Kent. The frozen suit The Red Leather Suit Lex becomes Zod The.... "Red/Blue Blur"..... Pretty much everything with AI Jor-El - he was a dick Chloe's meta powers Clark and Lois' entire farce of a career. Kara Clone Zod Hawkman "Deathstroke" Clark putting Doomsday into a bearhug and throwing him down a well.... It took Clark 10 fucking years to fly... The entire New Gods story in the last season and it's tedious resolution in the barn... Lois and Clark's failed wedding - so they wait 8 fucking years... And the tiny fucking CGI Superman..... Tom Welling awkwardly walking at camera for the stupid, anticlimactic shirt reveal.... It was so bad, I wrote my own version of the finale and put it up on Tumblr as fan fiction. I introduced a proper version of Barry Allen, "played" by Zachary Levi; and recast Black Canary with Yvonne Strahovski. All of which even combined was still 1000x better than Lana+Lex, Lana the reincarnated witch, Vampire Lana, Super Lana, Black Ops Lana or the series long Lana the hypocrite.
I really think the show should have ended with a TV movie where they could give it enough time and money to have the visuals it needed and end with the League as we had it plus Superboy fending off Darkseid's forces as Clark battles Darkseid himself, having Clark don the suit in the final act for the climatic battle above metropolis, instead of the planet traveling through space to earth it appears via an open boom tube above the city with a part of it on this side of it, battle ends with Clark pushing Darkseid and the planet back through the portal and closing it, the end of the movie similar to end of the animated film where the League is presented to the world Superman in particular, after a decade it deserved a much bigger finale than it got, also Clark learning to fly being the key to winning works in a sense that he has to fly to be able to push the planet back but still he needed to actually overcome Darkseid imo also.
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Post by dazz on Mar 14, 2019 5:43:19 GMT
The board really should have been Arrowverse from the start as we never stuck to just talking Arrow, but DC TV would be a suitable name for it also, we should also have a Marvel TV board or just have this as the Superhero/Comic TV board and let it be a free for all. Will CW still refer to it as the Arrowverse after Arrow ends? Smallville was a damn good show Smallville as good, until Erica Durance showed up. She was the worst Lois Lane ever and completely ruined the show. No one cares what you think.
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Post by stargazer1682 on Mar 14, 2019 5:51:30 GMT
And she got cast on Stargate Universe, but they could have recast. I would have preferred it; I didn't care for her as Black Canary anyway. On SGU for that matter.... Dark Kent. The frozen suit The Red Leather Suit Lex becomes Zod The.... "Red/Blue Blur"..... Pretty much everything with AI Jor-El - he was a dick Chloe's meta powers Clark and Lois' entire farce of a career. Kara Clone Zod Hawkman "Deathstroke" Clark putting Doomsday into a bearhug and throwing him down a well.... It took Clark 10 fucking years to fly... The entire New Gods story in the last season and it's tedious resolution in the barn... Lois and Clark's failed wedding - so they wait 8 fucking years... And the tiny fucking CGI Superman..... Tom Welling awkwardly walking at camera for the stupid, anticlimactic shirt reveal.... It was so bad, I wrote my own version of the finale and put it up on Tumblr as fan fiction. I introduced a proper version of Barry Allen, "played" by Zachary Levi; and recast Black Canary with Yvonne Strahovski. All of which even combined was still 1000x better than Lana+Lex, Lana the reincarnated witch, Vampire Lana, Super Lana, Black Ops Lana or the series long Lana the hypocrite.
I really think the show should have ended with a TV movie where they could give it enough time and money to have the visuals it needed and end with the League as we had it plus Superboy fending off Darkseid's forces as Clark battles Darkseid himself, having Clark don the suit in the final act for the climatic battle above metropolis, instead of the planet traveling through space to earth it appears via an open boom tube above the city with a part of it on this side of it, battle ends with Clark pushing Darkseid and the planet back through the portal and closing it, the end of the movie similar to end of the animated film where the League is presented to the world Superman in particular, after a decade it deserved a much bigger finale than it got, also Clark learning to fly being the key to winning works in a sense that he has to fly to be able to push the planet back but still he needed to actually overcome Darkseid imo also.
Not far off from what I wrote about 6 years ago... smallvillealternatefinale.tumblr.com/
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Post by General Kenobi on Mar 14, 2019 18:24:00 GMT
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