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Post by scabab on Mar 13, 2019 19:37:48 GMT
www.nme.com/news/film/marvel-boss-kevin-feige-responds-glaring-plot-hole-captain-marvel-2460832/ampIn an interview with SlashFilm, Feige was asked why Nick Fury didn’t page Captain Marvel during the events of the 2012 Avengers movie when a wormhole opened over Earth and began an alien assault. Feige offered two explanations: “Well, I’d say two things. One, she does say it’s gotta be a real emergency, right? The other thing I’d say is how do you know he never hit it? How do we know he never pushed it before? We’ve never seen him push it before. That doesn’t mean he never did.”
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Post by NormanClature on Mar 13, 2019 19:56:16 GMT
www.nme.com/news/film/marvel-boss-kevin-feige-responds-glaring-plot-hole-captain-marvel-2460832/ampIn an interview with SlashFilm, Feige was asked why Nick Fury didn’t page Captain Marvel during the events of the 2012 Avengers movie when a wormhole opened over Earth and began an alien assault. Feige offered two explanations: “Well, I’d say two things. One, she does say it’s gotta be a real emergency, right? The other thing I’d say is how do you know he never hit it? How do we know he never pushed it before? We’ve never seen him push it before. That doesn’t mean he never did.” The second excuse is absolute BS. And if we buy that he didn't think a wormhole opening over the Earth with thousands of aliens coming through it was enough of an emergency then the impending arrival of T hanos certainly was, yet he only paged Captain Wamen when he was moments from getting turned into dust.
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Post by cricket on Mar 13, 2019 20:05:52 GMT
The latter is kind of very possible. 20+ years have passed since they meet for the last time. Danvers and Fury probably have now ways of communication that do not need her to come all the way to the Earth and see what's THE URGENCY. So, I can see her a day after the beeper call (she is a few galaxies away, anyway) sending a Message: - Fury, what's going on, what's the urgency? - Sorry, girl. It was a chaos, but a group of New Kids on the Block just took care of everything, thankfully. I hope next time we don't need to call you. - Ok, I will be on the watch, if you need me. However, this time after Fury send her the call and when she called back, Fury couldn't respond so she had no option but to come back to see what happened: - Where is Fury? I just don't understand how anyone with a full functional brain can believe Danvers can return to the Earth in half a Day. Just look how long it took the Kree to come to the Earth to find her (if I remember, they said 22 hours for the nearest jump point to C-53). Damn, even the message could take several hours, even days to reach her depending where she is. So, they open a portal, Aliens invade, Fury send messages and Captain Marvel magically appears. All the event of the invasion from the Avengers movie didn't take more than half a day or at least that's what it seems.
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Post by Skaathar on Mar 13, 2019 20:06:43 GMT
www.nme.com/news/film/marvel-boss-kevin-feige-responds-glaring-plot-hole-captain-marvel-2460832/ampIn an interview with SlashFilm, Feige was asked why Nick Fury didn’t page Captain Marvel during the events of the 2012 Avengers movie when a wormhole opened over Earth and began an alien assault. Feige offered two explanations: “Well, I’d say two things. One, she does say it’s gotta be a real emergency, right? The other thing I’d say is how do you know he never hit it? How do we know he never pushed it before? We’ve never seen him push it before. That doesn’t mean he never did.” The second excuse is absolute BS. And if we buy that he didn't think a wormhole opening over the Earth with thousands of aliens coming through it was enough of an emergency then the impending arrival of T hanos certainly was, yet he only paged Captain Wamen when he was moments from getting turned into dust. Yes, because moments from getting turned into dust is indeed a bigger emergency than watching a wormhole with aliens in the sky. One of them still has a chance for victory, the other one not so much. I can't believe how many times I need to explain this shit. You're all adults, you should be smart enough to figure this on your own.
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Post by NormanClature on Mar 13, 2019 20:09:31 GMT
The second excuse is absolute BS. And if we buy that he didn't think a wormhole opening over the Earth with thousands of aliens coming through it was enough of an emergency then the impending arrival of T hanos certainly was, yet he only paged Captain Wamen when he was moments from getting turned into dust. Yes, because moments from getting turned into dust is indeed a bigger emergency than watching a wormhole with aliens in the sky. One of them still has a chance for victory, the other one not so much. I can't believe how many times I need to explain this shit. You're all adults, you should be smart enough to figure this on your own. Yeah, but why wasn't it an emergency earlier on?
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Post by Skaathar on Mar 13, 2019 20:15:45 GMT
Yes, because moments from getting turned into dust is indeed a bigger emergency than watching a wormhole with aliens in the sky. One of them still has a chance for victory, the other one not so much. I can't believe how many times I need to explain this shit. You're all adults, you should be smart enough to figure this on your own. Yeah, but why wasn't it an emergency earlier on? Because there was still a chance that the Avengers were winning. Duh.
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Post by NormanClature on Mar 13, 2019 20:19:02 GMT
Yeah, but why wasn't it an emergency earlier on? Because there was still a chance that the Avengers were winning. Duh. Yeah, 'cause he knew Thor was going to come back any minute with Stormbreaker.
Let's face it, things were looking pretty grim until then.
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Post by Skaathar on Mar 13, 2019 20:23:47 GMT
Because there was still a chance that the Avengers were winning. Duh. Yeah, 'cause he knew Thor was going to come back any minute with Stormbreaker.
Let's face it, things were looking pretty grim until then. He didn't know shit. Fury was not in Wakanda. Besides, things only turned really grim once Thanos arrived, and Thor arrived before Thanos.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Mar 13, 2019 20:24:54 GMT
Because there was still a chance that the Avengers were winning. Duh. Yeah, 'cause he knew Thor was going to come back any minute with Stormbreaker.
Let's face it, things were looking pretty grim until then. What makes you think Fury knew what was going on with Thanos?
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Post by NormanClature on Mar 13, 2019 20:25:46 GMT
Yeah, 'cause he knew Thor was going to come back any minute with Stormbreaker.
Let's face it, things were looking pretty grim until then. He didn't know shit. Fury was not in Wakanda. So he didn't know a thing about what was going on over there, I suppose?
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Post by poutinep on Mar 13, 2019 20:26:01 GMT
That's not a plot hole, nevermind a glaring plot hole. And they didn't need Danvers for Loki or Ultron now did they?
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Post by Skaathar on Mar 13, 2019 20:26:14 GMT
He didn't know shit. Fury was not in Wakanda. So he didn't know a thing about what was going on over there, I suppose? Last time I checked, Fury was not omniscient.
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Post by NormanClature on Mar 13, 2019 20:28:31 GMT
So he didn't know a thing about what was going on over there, I suppose? Last time I checked, Fury was not omniscient. I'm pretty sure someone would have kept him up to speed. You know, given the future of the universe was at stake.
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Post by Skaathar on Mar 13, 2019 20:35:15 GMT
Last time I checked, Fury was not omniscient. I'm pretty sure someone would have kept him up to speed. You know, given the future of the universe was at stake. Why would they? He's supposed to be dead right? And even if they did update him, sure, he might have had some updates that aliens were attacking Wakanda, but it would be stupid to assume that he was getting some kind of blow by blow commentary on what was happening with the fight at all times.
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Post by NormanClature on Mar 13, 2019 20:39:27 GMT
I'm pretty sure someone would have kept him up to speed. You know, given the future of the universe was at stake. Why would they? He's supposed to be dead right? And even if they did update him, sure, he might have had some updates that aliens were attacking Wakanda, but it would be stupid to assume that he was getting some kind of blow by blow commentary on what was happening with the fight at all times. He wouldn't need a blow by blow commentary. One realistic appraisal should have been enough.
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Post by Skaathar on Mar 13, 2019 20:42:28 GMT
Why would they? He's supposed to be dead right? And even if they did update him, sure, he might have had some updates that aliens were attacking Wakanda, but it would be stupid to assume that he was getting some kind of blow by blow commentary on what was happening with the fight at all times. He wouldn't need a blow by blow commentary. One realistic appraisal should have been enough. And when would that appraisal have been made? Before the battle? When T'Challa opened the shields? When Thor joined the fight? When Thanos landed? Who would have made the update? I don't recall any of the Avengers maintaining contact with Fury. And did you expect one of them to excuse themselves from the battle so they can make a phone call?
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Mar 13, 2019 20:49:45 GMT
Maria Hill even said before she got dusted that they were just getting preliminary reports about some sort of activity in Wakanda. So they knew nothing at that point. Do you guys even pay attention to these movies?
Fury knew he could turn to dust at any time and he couldn't call the Avengers or assess the situation any further. The only move he had was the "hail Mary" to call Captain Marvel. No previous situation was anything like that.
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Post by NormanClature on Mar 13, 2019 20:58:08 GMT
He wouldn't need a blow by blow commentary. One realistic appraisal should have been enough. And when would that appraisal have been made? Before the battle? When T'Challa opened the shields? When Thor joined the fight? When Thanos landed? Who would have made the update? I don't recall any of the Avengers maintaining contact with Fury. And did you expect one of them to excuse themselves from the battle so they can make a phone call? I think it would have been pretty normal to let him know what was going on just before shit went down. Having said that, common sense would also dictate that Dr. Strange would have found some way to let Fury know that Thanos had the full house and was on his way to cash in. So maybe Fury not knowing anything was all part of the timeline Strange chose??!! That seems the answer to all potential plot holes at this point.
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Post by DC-Fan on Mar 13, 2019 20:59:56 GMT
www.nme.com/news/film/marvel-boss-kevin-feige-responds-glaring-plot-hole-captain-marvel-2460832/ampIn an interview with SlashFilm, Feige was asked why Nick Fury didn’t page Captain Marvel during the events of the 2012 Avengers movie when a wormhole opened over Earth and began an alien assault. Feige offered two explanations: “Well, I’d say two things. One, she does say it’s gotta be a real emergency, right? The other thing I’d say is how do you know he never hit it? How do we know he never pushed it before? We’ve never seen him push it before. That doesn’t mean he never did.” An wormhole opening over New York and aliens invading Manhattan and killing hundreds of civilians while the Avengers just stood there doing nothing for half an hour and Loki had already killed Fury's #1 guy (Agent Coulson) and made the Avengers look like incompetent idiots and the Council was discussing the use of nuclear weapons wasn't enough of an emergency? Feige is full of shit. It's a plothole, plain and simple.
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Post by NormanClature on Mar 13, 2019 21:00:12 GMT
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