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Post by Skaathar on Mar 13, 2019 21:07:07 GMT
And when would that appraisal have been made? Before the battle? When T'Challa opened the shields? When Thor joined the fight? When Thanos landed? Who would have made the update? I don't recall any of the Avengers maintaining contact with Fury. And did you expect one of them to excuse themselves from the battle so they can make a phone call? I think it would have been pretty normal to let him know what was going on just before shit went down. Having said that, common sense would also dictate that Dr. Strange would have found some way to let Fury know that Thanos had the full house and was on his way to cash in. So maybe Fury not knowing anything was all part of the timeline Strange chose??!! That seems the answer to all potential plot holes at this point. First, you're assuming that any of the Avengers still kept in contact with Fury. Second, if we followed your suggestion then the only thing Fury would have know was that there was an alien force about to battle Wakanda. That doesn't sound like a panic-inducing emergency to me, especially not if the combined forces of Wakanda and the Avengers are there to fight it. Third, Dr. Strange and Fury are not buddies. Don't personally know each other as far as we're concerned. Why would Dr. Strange call him and how exactly would he call him? |
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Post by DC-Fan on Mar 13, 2019 21:07:57 GMT
WOW!!! Another HUGE PLOTHOLE!!!
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Post by NormanClature on Mar 13, 2019 21:14:35 GMT
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Post by NormanClature on Mar 13, 2019 21:18:00 GMT
I think it would have been pretty normal to let him know what was going on just before shit went down. Having said that, common sense would also dictate that Dr. Strange would have found some way to let Fury know that Thanos had the full house and was on his way to cash in. So maybe Fury not knowing anything was all part of the timeline Strange chose??!! That seems the answer to all potential plot holes at this point. Third, Dr. Strange and Fury are not buddies. Don't personally know each other as far as we're concerned. Why would Dr. Strange call him and how exactly would he call him? Are you serious? H e's Dr. F'in Strange!!
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Post by Skaathar on Mar 13, 2019 21:20:52 GMT
Third, Dr. Strange and Fury are not buddies. Don't personally know each other as far as we're concerned. Why would Dr. Strange call him and how exactly would he call him? Are you serious? H e's Dr. F'in Strange!! And? He's not omniscient. He also doesn't keep an interstellar cellphone with every person's phone number saved on it. You also didn't address my first two points.
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Post by NormanClature on Mar 13, 2019 21:27:44 GMT
Are you serious? H e's Dr. F'in Strange!! And? He's not omniscient. He also doesn't keep an interstellar cellphone with every person's phone number saved on it. You also didn't address my first two points. Why have they got to be best buddies? Fury is the director of Shield. Strange would know that. Dr. Strange doesn't need a cellphone because he is Dr Strange.
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Post by Skaathar on Mar 13, 2019 21:37:50 GMT
And? He's not omniscient. He also doesn't keep an interstellar cellphone with every person's phone number saved on it. You also didn't address my first two points. Why have they got to be best buddies? Fury is the director of Shield. Strange would know that. Dr. Strange doesn't need a cellphone because he is Dr Strange. Fury is no longer the director of SHIELD. Hasn't been the director of SHIELD for some time. And why would Dr. Strange need to call SHIELD anyway? He doesn't report to SHIELD. Also, please show how Dr. Strange makes interstellar phone calls. Also, do you now agree that Fury getting updates on the Wakandan battle would not have been enough for him to press the emergency pager?
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Post by cricket on Mar 13, 2019 21:44:54 GMT
Wow, ignorance is a blessing. You can be probably dumb, then you can disguise it displaying utter ignorance and keep being just dumb; but people at the end note it.
Fury director of SHIELD? Really, in 2019? If you don't know a shit, why keep talking about it?
Doctor Strange clearly said to Stark that he does not work for him. Why would he work with SHIELD then? His group is not associated with anyone in Earth until that moment.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Mar 14, 2019 0:30:23 GMT
www.nme.com/news/film/marvel-boss-kevin-feige-responds-glaring-plot-hole-captain-marvel-2460832/ampIn an interview with SlashFilm, Feige was asked why Nick Fury didn’t page Captain Marvel during the events of the 2012 Avengers movie when a wormhole opened over Earth and began an alien assault. Feige offered two explanations: “Well, I’d say two things. One, she does say it’s gotta be a real emergency, right? The other thing I’d say is how do you know he never hit it? How do we know he never pushed it before? We’ve never seen him push it before. That doesn’t mean he never did.” An wormhole opening over New York and aliens invading Manhattan and killing hundreds of civilians while the Avengers just stood there doing nothing for half an hour and Loki had already killed Fury's #1 guy (Agent Coulson) and made the Avengers look like incompetent idiots and the Council was discussing the use of nuclear weapons wasn't enough of an emergency? Feige is full of shit. It's a plothole, plain and simple. Why the fuck do you keep saying the Avengers just stood around for half an hour? I thought you saw the movie. Clearly you haven't because you know they were not standing around and cracking jokes and 1 liners.
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Post by DC-Fan on Mar 14, 2019 1:37:02 GMT
WOW!!! Those are HUGE PLOTHOLES!!!
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Post by sostie on Mar 14, 2019 1:48:06 GMT
And when would that appraisal have been made? Before the battle? When T'Challa opened the shields? When Thor joined the fight? When Thanos landed? Who would have made the update? I don't recall any of the Avengers maintaining contact with Fury. And did you expect one of them to excuse themselves from the battle so they can make a phone call? Having said that, common sense would also dictate that Dr. Strange would have found some way to let Fury know that Thanos had the full house and was on his way to cash in. Would it? Bruce Banner falls through his roof, tells him to get Stark, gets background on Thanos, get's into a battle in New York (which Fury is aware of, it's mentioned in the post credits), is captured, immobilised, taken to another planet....and common sense says he will stop to contact someone he has never met, let alone knows exists?
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Post by sostie on Mar 14, 2019 1:48:53 GMT
WOW!!! Those are HUGE PLOTHOLES!!! Take your Magic Boat and sail to the Sahara Ocean
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Post by Marendil on Mar 14, 2019 11:49:20 GMT
An wormhole opening over New York and aliens invading Manhattan and killing hundreds of civilians while the Avengers just stood there doing nothing for half an hour and Loki had already killed Fury's #1 guy (Agent Coulson) and made the Avengers look like incompetent idiots and the Council was discussing the use of nuclear weapons wasn't enough of an emergency? Feige is full of shit. It's a plothole, plain and simple. Why the fuck do you keep saying the Avengers just stood around for half an hour? I thought you saw the movie. Clearly you haven't because you know they were not standing around and cracking jokes and 1 liners's They were broken and demoralized, that happens sometimes when you get your asses kicked, it's whether you get back up or run and hide that counts. That sort of thing is what makes "Avengers" a superior movie in my view.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Mar 14, 2019 12:15:23 GMT
I stopped watching after the first two. Pepper says SHIELD it quite a mouthful and Coulson quips, "We're working on it." That doesn't mean SHIELD was founded yesterday. The guy acknowledged their name is ridiculous. Then the dipshit host points out there's no way Carol would know if Fury was telling the truth. She was clearly getting a read on the guy, that's all. She even makes a joke about it after he tells her about the toast. Thing is, I bet there are plot holes between this and the continuity of Agents of SHIELD, but as the movies have never acknowledged the show's existence, I don't think it matters.
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Post by DC-Fan on Mar 14, 2019 17:44:09 GMT
The second excuse is absolute BS. And if we buy that he didn't think a wormhole opening over the Earth with thousands of aliens coming through it was enough of an emergency then the impending arrival of T hanos certainly was, yet he only paged Captain Wamen when he was moments from getting turned into dust. Yes, because moments from getting turned into dust is indeed a bigger emergency than watching a wormhole with aliens in the sky. One of them still has a chance for victory, the other one not so much. I can't believe how many times I need to explain this shit. So basically Fury decided that aliens invading and killing hundreds of civilians while the Avengers just stood there for half an hour and did nothing but crack jokes and 1-liners wasn't an emergency? If Fury had paged Captain Marvel when Loki had killed Agent Coulson and made the Avengers look like incompetent idiots, then those hundreds of civilians might not have been killed. But Fury refused to call in backup even while the Chitauri were killing hundreds of civilians and the Avengers just stood there for half an hour doing nothing to stop it.
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Post by Skaathar on Mar 14, 2019 17:51:20 GMT
Yes, because moments from getting turned into dust is indeed a bigger emergency than watching a wormhole with aliens in the sky. One of them still has a chance for victory, the other one not so much. I can't believe how many times I need to explain this shit. So basically Fury decided that aliens invading and killing hundreds of civilians while the Avengers just stood there for half an hour and did nothing but crack jokes and 1-liners wasn't an emergency? If Fury had paged Captain Marvel when Loki had killed Agent Coulson and made the Avengers look like incompetent idiots, then those hundreds of civilians might not have been killed. But Fury refused to call in backup even while the Chitauri were killing hundreds of civilians and the Avengers just stood there for half an hour doing nothing to stop it. So basically you're saying the deaths of a couple hundred civilians is at the same level of emergency as a few trillion souls getting snuffed out across the universe? Yeah, you really need to stop putting your foot in your mouth.
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Post by DC-Fan on Mar 14, 2019 17:54:18 GMT
So basically Fury decided that aliens invading and killing hundreds of civilians while the Avengers just stood there for half an hour and did nothing but crack jokes and 1-liners wasn't an emergency? If Fury had paged Captain Marvel when Loki had killed Agent Coulson and made the Avengers look like incompetent idiots, then those hundreds of civilians might not have been killed. But Fury refused to call in backup even while the Chitauri were killing hundreds of civilians and the Avengers just stood there for half an hour doing nothing to stop it. So basically you're saying the deaths of a couple hundred civilians is at the same level of emergency as a few trillion souls getting snuffed out across the universe? Yeah, you really need to stop putting your foot in your mouth. So basically you're saying that Nick Fury and the Avengers don't give a shit if a couple hundred civilians are killed because their lives aren't worth much. Talk about putting your foot in your mouth.
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Post by Skaathar on Mar 14, 2019 17:57:26 GMT
So basically you're saying the deaths of a couple hundred civilians is at the same level of emergency as a few trillion souls getting snuffed out across the universe? Yeah, you really need to stop putting your foot in your mouth. So basically you're saying that Nick Fury and the Avengers don't give a shit if a couple hundred civilians are killed because their lives aren't worth much. Talk about putting your foot in your mouth. If they didn't give a shit then they wouldn't have been there fighting the aliens off and putting their lives on the line. Is your brain truly incapable of understanding something this simple?
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Post by DC-Fan on Mar 14, 2019 18:03:25 GMT
So basically you're saying that Nick Fury and the Avengers don't give a shit if a couple hundred civilians are killed because their lives aren't worth much. Talk about putting your foot in your mouth. If they didn't give a shit then they wouldn't have been there fighting the aliens off They were there fighting because most of them got paid by SHIELD to fight. Steve Rogers, Bruce Banner, Natasha Romanov, and Clint Barton don't have a regular jobs like Clark Kent, Diana Prince, and Barry Allen do and aren't independently wealthy like Bruce Wayne is. Clint Barton has to support a wife and 2 young kids so without a regular job his only income comes from working as a mercenary for Nick Fury and SHIELD.
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Post by Skaathar on Mar 14, 2019 18:04:39 GMT
If they didn't give a shit then they wouldn't have been there fighting the aliens off They were there fighting because most of them got paid by SHIELD to fight. Steve Rogers, Bruce Banner, Natasha Romanov, and Clint Barton don't have a regular jobs like Clark Kent, Diana Prince, and Barry Allen do and aren't independently wealthy like Bruce Wayne is. Clint Barton has to support a wife and 2 young kids so without a regular job his only income comes from working as a mercenary for Nick Fury and SHIELD. So how much did they get paid? How much did SHIELD pay Captain America, Thor, Tony Stark and Hulk to go out there and risk their lives?
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