|
Post by bud47 on Mar 20, 2019 22:08:54 GMT
So was Black Panther the exception to the rule? No since its an all black film. Again...Everett Ross, sidekick, supporting character.
|
|
|
Post by charzhino on Mar 20, 2019 22:14:29 GMT
No since its an all black film. Again...Everett Ross, sidekick, supporting character. Read the article again. The author said support characters that are only there to progress the white heros development. Ross is just a stooge who doesnt help progress Tchalas character. Shuri, okoye and forest whittakers support characters do that and there all black.
|
|
|
Post by bud47 on Mar 20, 2019 22:31:53 GMT
Again...Everett Ross, sidekick, supporting character. Read the article again. The author said support characters that are only there to progress the white heros development. Ross is just a stooge who doesnt help progress Tchalas character. Shuri, okoye and forest whittakers support characters do that and there all black. He was more than just a stooge. He fought alongside (from afar) and helped to protect Wakanda's secrets, thereby gaining T'Challa's trust. Along with Okoye, his involvement could also be seen as further influence in T'Challa's decision wanting to share their technology with the rest of the world.
|
|
|
Post by sostie on Mar 21, 2019 0:01:28 GMT
If they made established black characters white...they'd be accused of whitewashing They'd be criticised if they made established white characters black and be accused of being SJWs
It's just a reflection of the comics themselves. What it seems to ignore is that Marvel has always been way more progressive than it's counterparts when including non-white characters. DC could do 22 films and they would struggle to have as many black characters as Marvel
|
|
|
Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Mar 21, 2019 0:22:14 GMT
Hey there - we're all still waiting to hear your thesis on how Darcy Lewis is the best character in the MCU period and how RDJ and Chris Pratt are the worst actors in the world today. In a proper thread i ll answer those questions but this Isn't the one So basically you'll never answer, okay.
|
|
|
Post by Prime etc. on Mar 21, 2019 0:56:32 GMT
But the lead characters if they are white male are more like sidekicks. Thor doesn't do much pro-action. Same with Captain America. Same with Starlord. Tony Stark does more but he the nerd and Disney-Marvel love the nerds.
The most heroic male character in a traditional sense has been Black Panther. Not an accident.
|
|
|
Post by thenewnexus on Mar 21, 2019 1:10:51 GMT
In a proper thread i ll answer those questions but this Isn't the one So basically you'll never answer, okay. Ask in the right thread
|
|
|
Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Mar 21, 2019 1:12:26 GMT
So basically you'll never answer, okay. Ask in the right thread I did, you didn't care to respond then.
|
|
|
Post by DC-Fan on Mar 21, 2019 1:36:13 GMT
It's just a reflection of the comics themselves. If MCU wanted to reflect the comics, then they should've had Janet Van Dyne name the team the Avengers instead of Carol Danvers naming the team. And they should've had a Peter Parker who became a hero because of Uncle Ben's advice about having a "great responsibility" instead of a Peter Parker whose only motivation for being a hero is to show-off and try to impress an egotistical billionaire.
|
|
|
Post by sostie on Mar 21, 2019 1:54:41 GMT
It's just a reflection of the comics themselves. If MCU wanted to reflect the comics, then they should've had Janet Van Dyne name the team the Avengers instead of Carol Danvers naming the team. And they should've had a Peter Parker who became a hero because of Uncle Ben's advice about having a "great responsibility" instead of a Peter Parker whose only motivation for being a hero is to show-off and try to impress an egotistical billionaire. Do do you care as much that they stole Aquaman's origin from Namor?
|
|
|
Post by justanaveragejoe on Mar 21, 2019 4:52:48 GMT
It's just a reflection of the comics themselves. If MCU wanted to reflect the comics, then they should've had Janet Van Dyne name the team the Avengers instead of Carol Danvers naming the team. And they should've had a Peter Parker who became a hero because of Uncle Ben's advice about having a "great responsibility" instead of a Peter Parker whose only motivation for being a hero is to show-off and try to impress an egotistical billionaire. First off, it's an adaptation, and changes have to be made for the story to make sense. Second, Uncle Ben does/did exist in the MCU. By now, Kevin Feige knows his audiences aren't stupid and can piece together that Uncle Ben did exist in the MCU. As Peter briefly talks about him in Homecoming and how he brings Uncle Ben's suitcase to his trip to Europe in Far From Home.
|
|
|
Post by DC-Fan on Mar 21, 2019 5:19:10 GMT
If MCU wanted to reflect the comics, then they should've had Janet Van Dyne name the team the Avengers instead of Carol Danvers naming the team. And they should've had a Peter Parker who became a hero because of Uncle Ben's advice about having a "great responsibility" instead of a Peter Parker whose only motivation for being a hero is to show-off and try to impress an egotistical billionaire. Uncle Ben did exist in the MCU. As Peter briefly talks about him in Homecoming No one ever said Uncle Ben didn't exist in MCU. But in MCU, it's ambiguous if Uncle Ben is alive or dead since MCU has never said that Uncle Ben was murdered or is dead. And the fact that Peter's sole motivation for being a hero is to show-off and try to impress an egotistical billionaire and Peter doesn't give a shit about any "great responsibility" implies that Uncle Ben wasn't murdered in MCU. he brings Uncle Ben's suitcase to his trip to Europe in Far From Home. You've seen Far From Home?
|
|
|
Post by darkpast on Mar 21, 2019 5:42:51 GMT
just make good characters , don't care if they are white, black, yellow, brown or purple.
|
|
|
Post by poutinep on Mar 21, 2019 13:33:07 GMT
he brings Uncle Ben's suitcase to his trip to Europe in Far From Home. You've seen Far From Home? It's in the trailer. You can see the suitcase has BFP on it.
|
|
|
Post by blockbusted on Apr 18, 2019 19:22:01 GMT
You lost all your credibility when you used 'Fant4stic' as a positive example - if you had any, that is.
|
|
|
Post by justanaveragejoe on Apr 18, 2019 19:30:04 GMT
You lost all your credibility when you used 'Fant4stic' as a positive example - if you had any, that is. Yeah, that was pure tolkenism casting.
|
|
|
Post by blockbusted on Apr 18, 2019 22:36:43 GMT
You lost all your credibility when you used 'Fant4stic' as a positive example - if you had any, that is. Yeah, that was pure tolkenism casting. It was more of a nepotism casting since Josh Trank casted Michael B. Jordan as Johnny Storm SIMPLY because they were friends. Also, the fact that Sue Storm was still white shows how little they cared about the production.
|
|
|
Post by Skaathar on Apr 18, 2019 22:55:35 GMT
Yeah, that was pure tolkenism casting. It was more of a nepotism casting since Josh Trank casted Michael B. Jordan as Johnny Storm SIMPLY because they were friends. Also, the fact that Sue Storm was still white shows how little they cared about the production. Let's face it, Fox didn't really care about that movie. They only made it so they could keep the rights to Fantastic Four. You could tell by the lack of attention to detail they put into the movie that they really didn't care about it. Kind of a douchebag move really.
|
|
|
Post by blockbusted on Apr 18, 2019 22:57:14 GMT
It was more of a nepotism casting since Josh Trank casted Michael B. Jordan as Johnny Storm SIMPLY because they were friends. Also, the fact that Sue Storm was still white shows how little they cared about the production. Let's face it, Fox didn't really care about that movie. They only made it so they could keep the rights to Fantastic Four. You could tell by the lack of attention to detail they put into the movie that they really didn't care about it. Kind of a douchebag move really. Exactly. Just look at that disappearing tank and you'll know how little they cared.
|
|