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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2019 2:01:11 GMT
Here's the problem folks.
Nobody knows your Sasha's from Taylors to Brittney's to Charlottes
What you need is a 'Monster' Heel - along the lines of Awesome Kong/Karma.
I.E. - she just 'crushes'.
Made this argument when the Wyatt Family was around. Who Sister Abrigail should have been? Some 350 lb chick in blue farmer overalls in a straw hat with a wife beater underneath with mustard stains on it - i.e. she's a beast. She comes in ala King Kong Bundy and just squashes people.
You build her up for like 6 months - give her the stap for a year - then have one of your glamour girls (who all have the same persona and the casual fan doesn't know who is a face or heel) - knock her off at one of your 'Manias.
See - this is character develmont and booking folks.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2019 2:50:19 GMT
Sigh, they already had this and currently have this.
Last year they had Asuka who had like a 3 year long undefeated streak and wins the Royal Rumble only to lose to Charlotte. Asuka was booked as that monster. You wouldn't see it that way because she wasn't some roided up or fat 300 pound woman however.
They also have this currently with Rousey. Since debuting last year she has yet to lose outside of 1 Tag Team match where she wasn't the one pinned or submitted. Becky is being booked to be that person to dethrone her.
You see, if you watched the product you wouldn't be pitching ideas like this to "fix" the product when they're actively doing the things you are saying would fix it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2019 3:00:23 GMT
see smurf,
this is where wrestling is failing with today's fans.
that chick in the geisha mask isn't a monster. that's like saying Great Muta or the Kabuki was a monster.
no - that's an average looking human being. let's keep in mind this is fake and a movie and scripted.
monster? no - a monster is king kong bundy, big john studd, kamala, even agile monsters like vader and bigelow, show - hell - even though they were duds - Khali and El Gigante were 'Monsters'.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2019 3:04:31 GMT
i guess your argument is - anybody that is main event or an undefeated streak is a 'Monster'
so i guess AJ Styles and Daniel Bryan and CM Punk were 'Monsters' to you.
jesus Christ.
where's my time Dorlean - with a new Flux Capacitor so I can at least go back to Smackdown 2003.
who are these two Cruiserweights on the 'Mania card? they must be 'Monsters' too...........
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2019 3:06:17 GMT
look out baby! anybody booked/scripted to go undefeated is a 'Monster'!!!
who cares if they're 5'2 and 110 lbs!
whata Monster!!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2019 7:25:19 GMT
i guess your argument is - anybody that is main event or an undefeated streak is a 'Monster' so i guess AJ Styles and Daniel Bryan and CM Punk were 'Monsters' to you. jesus Christ. where's my time Dorlean - with a new Flux Capacitor so I can at least go back to Smackdown 2003. who are these two Cruiserweights on the 'Mania card? they must be 'Monsters' too........... God I really do hate engaging you on this board. Never did I say they (Styles, Bryan, Punk) were monsters. People like Goldberg, Undertaker, Asuka etc could be seen that way. If you book a person like an unbeatable person then the accomplishment of beating them is a huge deal. Who gives a shit if they're fucking fat? (Apparently you do!) You like people that are fat or are roided up. That's your opinion. The truth is, this "sport" or this "entertainment" has passed you by. It is no longer 1999. You can't just expect these people to do what you want for your own entertainment. They age, they get injured. Careers end just like any sport. WWE is honestly no different. Get into your DeLorean and blast back to when big roided up or fat guys dominated. Enjoy the WWE Network. They have all the shows from the 80's or 90's.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Apr 5, 2019 13:30:34 GMT
i guess your argument is - anybody that is main event or an undefeated streak is a 'Monster' so i guess AJ Styles and Daniel Bryan and CM Punk were 'Monsters' to you. jesus Christ. where's my time Dorlean - with a new Flux Capacitor so I can at least go back to Smackdown 2003. who are these two Cruiserweights on the 'Mania card? they must be 'Monsters' too........... God I really do hate engaging you on this board. Never did I say they (Styles, Bryan, Punk) were monsters. People like Goldberg, Undertaker, Asuka etc could be seen that way. If you book a person like an unbeatable person then the accomplishment of beating them is a huge deal. Who gives a shit if they're fucking fat? (Apparently you do!) You like people that are fat or are roided up. That's your opinion. The truth is, this "sport" or this "entertainment" has passed you by. It is no longer 1999. You can't just expect these people to do what you want for your own entertainment. They age, they get injured. Careers end just like any sport. WWE is honestly no different. Get into your DeLorean and blast back to when big roided up or fat guys dominated. Enjoy the WWE Network. They have all the shows from the 80's or 90's. The funny thing is that Bryan Danielson could be a real monster. He was brutal on the independent circuit and ROH. He could strike and stretch with the best of them. Punk also was a beast on the mic. Few people could match his intensity when he really turned it up. And of course, no one can touch AJ Styles in the ring. The guy is as phenomenal as his name says.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2019 21:45:52 GMT
are you OK?
i'm concerned.
I'm here for you.
we're all fans - some with contrasting viewpoints.
I mean - that's what makes these boards, wrasslin', and sports fun.
you may not agree with each other - but we're all fans.
Question - and I apologize for my ignorance before hand - how many 'Monsters' will be contributing during 'Mania
Because apparently I don't know what 'Monster' means anymore.
So - I'd like to kindly and politely ask who are the 'Monsters' of today?''
Thanks for schooling me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2019 21:51:45 GMT
is there a hotline number a I can call for guidance and help?
I don't know what 'Monster' means anymore
apparently 'Monster' just means you're a 'threat'
I feel like 'Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer' in SNL - these times confuse me......
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Post by themanwithnoshame on Apr 21, 2019 13:52:53 GMT
see smurf, this is where wrestling is failing with today's fans. that chick in the geisha mask isn't a monster. that's like saying Great Muta or the Kabuki was a monster. no - that's an average looking human being. let's keep in mind this is fake and a movie and scripted. monster? no - a monster is king kong bundy, big john studd, kamala, even agile monsters like vader and bigelow, show - hell - even though they were duds - Khali and El Gigante were 'Monsters'. They need somebody like Madusa. Not a monster per se but can take on male wrestlers in mixed tag matches.
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Post by Harmless elf on Apr 21, 2019 15:40:12 GMT
They have this with Nia Jax she's 275 lb and nobody likes her, next!
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Post by poelzig on Apr 21, 2019 21:25:42 GMT
God I really do hate engaging you on this board. Never did I say they (Styles, Bryan, Punk) were monsters. People like Goldberg, Undertaker, Asuka etc could be seen that way. If you book a person like an unbeatable person then the accomplishment of beating them is a huge deal. Who gives a shit if they're fucking fat? (Apparently you do!) You like people that are fat or are roided up. That's your opinion. The truth is, this "sport" or this "entertainment" has passed you by. It is no longer 1999. You can't just expect these people to do what you want for your own entertainment. They age, they get injured. Careers end just like any sport. WWE is honestly no different. Get into your DeLorean and blast back to when big roided up or fat guys dominated. Enjoy the WWE Network. They have all the shows from the 80's or 90's. The funny thing is that Bryan Danielson could be a real monster. He was brutal on the independent circuit and ROH. He could strike and stretch with the best of them. Punk also was a beast on the mic. Few people could match his intensity when he really turned it up. And of course, no one can touch AJ Styles in the ring. The guy is as phenomenal as his name says. If there was a hell, it would be freezing. I agree with one of your posts. It's an Easter miracle. I bet that's never happened before.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Apr 23, 2019 13:30:19 GMT
The funny thing is that Bryan Danielson could be a real monster. He was brutal on the independent circuit and ROH. He could strike and stretch with the best of them. Punk also was a beast on the mic. Few people could match his intensity when he really turned it up. And of course, no one can touch AJ Styles in the ring. The guy is as phenomenal as his name says. If there was a hell, it would be freezing. I agree with one of your posts. It's an Easter miracle. I bet that's never happened before. Jesus saves!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2019 0:40:29 GMT
I don't comprehend how somebody 'striking' and 'stretching' is a 'Monster'......
I know this is on 'Me'....
I mean - striking - wouldn't that be like 'quick' like a Welterweight in boxing?
stretching - like wouldn't that be a bore like Dean Malenko or somebody from Stu Hart's Dungeon
sorry to be an annoyance - I just need to be properly schooled on what 'Monster' means in today's wrestling.
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Post by poelzig on Apr 24, 2019 3:36:03 GMT
I don't comprehend how somebody 'striking' and 'stretching' is a 'Monster'...... I know this is on 'Me'.... I mean - striking - wouldn't that be like 'quick' like a Welterweight in boxing? stretching - like wouldn't that be a bore like Dean Malenko or somebody from Stu Hart's Dungeon sorry to be an annoyance - I just need to be properly schooled on what 'Monster' means in today's wrestling. Here you go my friend.
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Post by petrolino on Apr 24, 2019 17:42:40 GMT
Nia Jax is formidable in the ring. She's billed as slightly taller than Awesome Kong, comes in around the same weight, is a human wrecking ball with tremendous in-ring ability and a sense of humour. She's been on an unforgiving path of destruction through WWE for several years now. She currently tags with Tamina Snuka. She's not like most girls.
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