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Post by darkreviewer2013 on Apr 17, 2019 0:37:22 GMT
Just picked up Hellboy II: The Golden Army for 4 Euro this evening. Have never bothered to watch these films in the past, but they actually look pretty interesting. I loved Blade II and Pan's Labyrinth and would be a big superhero movie fan, so these might be right up my alley.
Thoughts/opinions on the old Hellboy movies (the Del Toro ones, I mean)?
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Post by Harmless elf on Apr 17, 2019 1:18:47 GMT
They're both very good they both have good villains hellboy's very charismatic, some very good dialogue. Prince nuada the villain in the second movie is very quotable. Both movies are just a lot of fun they have dark moments and also some beautiful moments two of the better superhero movies out there in my opinion
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Post by FridayOnElmStreet on Apr 17, 2019 1:47:50 GMT
1 - 8/10 Great fun.
2 - 6/10 Good but not as good as the first.
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Post by darkreviewer2013 on Apr 17, 2019 2:08:31 GMT
1 - 8/10 Great fun. 2 - 6/10 Good but not as good as the first. Interesting. I'd heard that the second one was the more popular entry overall.
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Post by Harmless elf on Apr 17, 2019 2:33:23 GMT
1 - 8/10 Great fun. 2 - 6/10 Good but not as good as the first. Interesting. I'd heard that the second one was the more popular entry overall. I would say the first movie is darker and the second movie has a little more thought-provoking dialogue |
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Post by HorrorMetal on Apr 17, 2019 2:38:16 GMT
They're great fun. Ron Perlman is awesome as always. I like the second film just a tad more but Karl Ruprecht Kroenen was such a cool and interesting side villain in the first movie.
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Post by gljbradley on Apr 17, 2019 2:50:44 GMT
They're great.
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Post by them1ghtyhumph on Apr 17, 2019 2:50:50 GMT
Both excellent films with excellent SFX.
I thought the 2nd one was a little better
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Post by moviemouth on Apr 17, 2019 3:01:54 GMT
Both are solid movies due in large part to Ron Perlman's performance and Del Toro's visual creativity.
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Post by alpha128 on Apr 17, 2019 3:16:42 GMT
I love both movies and own both on DVD. The first one was inspired by a few Mike Mignola graphic novels: The second was an original story. I think I prefer the second, but there are both excellent. And the quote thread was a lot of fun! |
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Post by them1ghtyhumph on Apr 17, 2019 4:10:48 GMT
Both are solid movies due in large part to Ron Perlman's performance and Del Toro's visual creativity. Agreed
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Post by Marv on Apr 17, 2019 4:12:11 GMT
I enjoyed them a lot.
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Post by James on Apr 17, 2019 10:42:00 GMT
They’re decent fun. I was expecting more but I had fun in the end. Second one is a bit better I guess.
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Post by Xcalatë on Apr 17, 2019 10:53:00 GMT
Both good movies, but the 2nd one less so.
I wish they would have made a third instead of a needless reboot.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Apr 17, 2019 14:45:02 GMT
They should'a just gotten over their shit and made a third one of those.
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Post by politicidal on Apr 17, 2019 16:30:53 GMT
I love the first one and really enjoyed the second. It’s a shame that GDT couldn’t complete the series.
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Post by darkreviewer2013 on Apr 17, 2019 21:19:59 GMT
Both good movies, but the 2nd one less so. I wish they would have made a third instead of a needless reboot. The reviews for the reboot are dire. Can't imagine how they'd thought they'd outclass Del Toro as a visual storyteller (I've seen some of his other work).
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Post by Prime etc. on Apr 17, 2019 21:46:35 GMT
They are decent.
One good thing with Del Toro is that he treats fantasy seriously (when he wants to). Unlike a Disney MCU film, the humor arises from the character situations naturally, not shoe-horned in for a cheap laugh.
They did get some emotional poignancy as well--like the end of the first one where he mentions how he told the demons to let what's her name come back.
I overlook it as a superhero category I guess because it is an occult thing.
The FX were well handled too--like when Krauss takes over the Golden army soldier.
Too bad they didn't do a third one. There was a rumor that Del Toro wanted to do a Hellboy meets the Universal Monsters story which would use CG versions of Karloff/Lugosi/Chaney etc...
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Post by darkreviewer2013 on Apr 17, 2019 21:50:54 GMT
They are decent. One good thing with Del Toro is that he treats fantasy seriously (when he wants to). Unlike a Disney MCU film, the humor arises from the character situations naturally, not shoe-horned in for a cheap laugh. They did get some emotional poignancy as well--like the end of the first one where he mentions how he told the demons to let what's her name come back. I overlook it as a superhero category I guess because it is an occult thing. The FX were well handled too--like when Krauss takes over the Golden army soldier. Too bad they didn't do a third one. There was a rumor that Del Toro wanted to do a Hellboy meets the Universal Monsters story which would use CG versions of Karloff/Lugosi/Chaney etc... handled the fantasy elements extremely well. They weren't my favourite parts of that film, mind you, but Del Toro clearly knew what he was doing in tackling that sort of material.
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Post by ravi02 on Apr 18, 2019 1:27:35 GMT
Both are fun light-hearted action romps. Before superhero and genre properties went all "grim & gritty", it was nice to have a pair of superhero adventures that were simply about creating a fantasy universe and having fun with it.
Ron Perlman is also great as the title character. He gets the dry humor of the character and also makes you care about him. I can't think of anyone else playing it as well as he did. Guillermo Del Toro also did a good job in balancing the action, horror, humor and fantasy elements throughout.
A damn shame we never got a third installment. They did make a couple of animated Hellboy films in between films 1&2 and feature the voice talents of Ron Perlman, Selma Blair and John Hurt, so give these a look if you're a fan of the Perlman/Del Toro films.
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