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Post by Aj_June on Apr 22, 2019 4:51:28 GMT
Did you guys also notice that there was a strange kind of look on his face? It's as if he had some other things in his mind. He had a kind of deceptive look about him. Also, when he was shown in the last scene before they cut to White Walkers, Tyrion looked creepy as hell. Could it be that he is with Cersei or has his own plans? Because he was getting too predictable for his role and maybe they will turn him into a villain at the end?
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Apr 22, 2019 4:58:31 GMT
What kind of plan could Tyrion possibly have? Is he going to bribe the Night King?
The only sort of physical damage he can do at this point is to blow up a dragon by being eaten.
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Post by Marendil on Apr 22, 2019 5:02:50 GMT
Did you guys also notice that there was a strange kind of look on his face? It's as if he had some other things in his mind. He had a kind of deceptive look about him. Also, when he was shown in the last scene before they cut to White Walkers, Tyrion looked creepy as hell. Could it be that he is with Cersei or has his own plans? Because he was getting too predictable for his role and maybe they will turn him into a villain at the end? No, I totally missed that, I'm going to watch it again now!
What I did remember was Tyrion had a long talk with Bran they didn't show anything of, perhaps that's related.
I wondered why they didn't show anything of Varys as they awaited the Dead, did they run out of cock jokes?
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Post by Aj_June on Apr 22, 2019 5:02:53 GMT
What kind of plan could Tyrion possibly have? He is going to bribe the Night King? The only sort of physical damage he can do at this point is to blow up a dragon by being eaten. His eyes never looked honest all through episode 2. His behaviour was awkward. Maybe he has a secret alliance with Cersei that has not been told to us. I still can't comment on the nature of the plan but he may turn out to be the best chess piece that Cersei may have. There was something in his eyes. I had an uneasy feeling about him.
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Post by Aj_June on Apr 22, 2019 5:05:02 GMT
Did you guys also notice that there was a strange kind of look on his face? It's as if he had some other things in his mind. He had a kind of deceptive look about him. Also, when he was shown in the last scene before they cut to White Walkers, Tyrion looked creepy as hell. Could it be that he is with Cersei or has his own plans? Because he was getting too predictable for his role and maybe they will turn him into a villain at the end? No, I totally missed that, I'm going to watch it again now!
What I did remember was Tyrion had a long talk with Bran they didn't show anything of, perhaps that's related.
I wondered why they didn't show anything of Varys as they awaited the Dead, did they run out of cock jokes?
Yeah, I already watched it thrice, man. Do pay attention to Tyrion. And he was quite confident even after it was alleged by Dany that he had done some major mistake.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Apr 22, 2019 5:08:47 GMT
What kind of plan could Tyrion possibly have? He is going to bribe the Night King? The only sort of physical damage he can do at this point is to blow up a dragon by being eaten. His eyes never looked honest all through episode 2. His behaviour was awkward. Maybe he has a secret alliance with Cersei that has not been told to us. I still can't comment on the nature of the plan but he may turn out to be the best chess piece that Cersei may have. There was something in his eyes. I had an uneasy feeling about him. They are awaiting war and he is a powerless bystander in it. Plans for after the war, if they survive, ought not to be his main concern at this point. It's not like he is going to help the enemy win so Cersei's elephants can trample the rest. If Tyrion was looking awkward it has another reason.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Apr 22, 2019 5:58:58 GMT
The only look about him that I noticed was of the "sh*tting bricks" variety - starting with the very real possibility of watching his brother get burned alive, to the egg on his face regarding Cersei, to Dany threatening his position, to the end where they're about to go to war with the WW. He was not having a good day.
Him and Cersei working together would be nuts, in a bad way. I know it was GRRM's original plan for him to turn villain, but palling up with Cersei of all people? His comment about Jaime knowing what she was but loving her anyway would suggest he's still not a fan.
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Post by Marendil on Apr 22, 2019 6:31:28 GMT
No, I totally missed that, I'm going to watch it again now!
What I did remember was Tyrion had a long talk with Bran they didn't show anything of, perhaps that's related.
I wondered why they didn't show anything of Varys as they awaited the Dead, did they run out of cock jokes?
Yeah, I already watched it thrice, man. Do pay attention to Tyrion. And he was quite confident even after it was alleged by Dany that he had done some major mistake. I didn't see it that way, he looked more to me like a guy treading on thin ice who hears a crack, then like the bluster of a guy who figures he's about to die but doesn't really believe it. The only time I saw anything odd was the impish grin when he wondered if after their defeat he would be raised to march to King's Landing to rip apart Cersei and I think that was just intended humorously. At the end they shot him looking sideways or from above so his pupils were obscured giving him a deathly visage but I think that was just for the creepiness factor.
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Post by Aj_June on Apr 22, 2019 6:39:17 GMT
Yeah, I already watched it thrice, man. Do pay attention to Tyrion. And he was quite confident even after it was alleged by Dany that he had done some major mistake. I didn't see it that way, he looked more to me like a guy treading on thin ice who hears a crack, then like the bluster of a guy who figures he's about to die but doesn't really believe it. The only time I saw anything odd was the impish grin when he wondered if after their defeat he would be raised to march to King's Landing to rip apart Cersei and I think that was just intended humorously. At the end they shot him looking sideways or from above so his pupils were obscured giving him a deathly visiage but I think that was just for the creepiness factor. My bad guys! I could have misread the whole thing and what may I have been seeing was a man with not many bright ideas. He even accepted he was a fool. It's just that I felt him to be rather odd. That last scene was indeed creepy. I still hope they have a twisty ending in store for us when it comes to Tyrion. Jaime I already accept will get either an honourable death or will be a war hero when everything is done. Tyrion known for his brain has not contributed anything big in a long time so I hope there's something in store for him.
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Post by Marendil on Apr 22, 2019 7:03:42 GMT
I didn't see it that way, he looked more to me like a guy treading on thin ice who hears a crack, then like the bluster of a guy who figures he's about to die but doesn't really believe it. The only time I saw anything odd was the impish grin when he wondered if after their defeat he would be raised to march to King's Landing to rip apart Cersei and I think that was just intended humorously. At the end they shot him looking sideways or from above so his pupils were obscured giving him a deathly visage but I think that was just for the creepiness factor. My bad guys! I could have misread the whole thing and what may I have been seeing was a man with not many bright ideas. He even accepted he was a fool. It's just that I felt him to be rather odd. That last scene was indeed creepy. I still hope they have a twisty ending in store for us when it comes to Tyrion. Jaime I already accept will get either an honourable death or will be a war hero when everything is done. Tyrion known for his brain has not contributed anything big in a long time so I hope there's something in store for him.
I heartily agree with the last sentiment and I think Jorah speaking on his behalf is a good sign of things to come--and a bad sign for poor Jorah. However this last time I did notice when he took Sam's sword he repeated part of the Night's Watch oath so I wonder if instead he might end up Lord Commander of the (reformed) Night's Watch?
Wishful thinking I suspect, he's probably doomed.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Apr 22, 2019 15:22:56 GMT
Did you guys also notice that there was a strange kind of look on his face? It's as if he had some other things in his mind. He had a kind of deceptive look about him. Also, when he was shown in the last scene before they cut to White Walkers, Tyrion looked creepy as hell. Could it be that he is with Cersei or has his own plans? Because he was getting too predictable for his role and maybe they will turn him into a villain at the end? no tyrion is not a villain i just think tyrion may think he made a mistake backing up dany as much as he did ,he is in deep thought maybe he is sensing dany wont really break any wheels , we see their relationship is a struggle shes impulsive not listening and sadly every plan tyrion has made so far were BIG mistakes and dany is not very understanding of that , the talk jamie/tyrion had yesterday doesnt make me think tyrion/cersei have this secret alliance but i do believe tyrion promised cersei her child will rule if she would step aside and let dany rule for a time i think sadly for tyrion when that comes out dany may hurt him - as execution , and if dany doesnt maybe cersei will
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Post by Troyal1 on Apr 22, 2019 15:29:22 GMT
What kind of plan could Tyrion possibly have? He is going to bribe the Night King? The only sort of physical damage he can do at this point is to blow up a dragon by being eaten. His eyes never looked honest all through episode 2. His behaviour was awkward. Maybe he has a secret alliance with Cersei that has not been told to us. I still can't comment on the nature of the plan but he may turn out to be the best chess piece that Cersei may have. There was something in his eyes. I had an uneasy feeling about him. I’ve been saying for a long time he wants that baby Cersei has to be safe. He asked Jamie if the baby part was still true even. I think he promised her something
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Apr 22, 2019 15:59:14 GMT
His eyes never looked honest all through episode 2. His behaviour was awkward. Maybe he has a secret alliance with Cersei that has not been told to us. I still can't comment on the nature of the plan but he may turn out to be the best chess piece that Cersei may have. There was something in his eyes. I had an uneasy feeling about him. I’ve been saying for a long time he wants that baby Cersei has to be safe. He asked Jamie if the baby part was still true even. I think he promised her something Tyrion being worried about Cersei's child would be fully in character. It does not betray any plan or alliance he has but lays out a very plausible reason for him to turn and change side at a later point in time, should Daenerys appear too drastic.
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Post by bluerisk on Apr 22, 2019 18:04:19 GMT
Did you guys also notice that there was a strange kind of look on his face? It's as if he had some other things in his mind. He had a kind of deceptive look about him. Also, when he was shown in the last scene before they cut to White Walkers, Tyrion looked creepy as hell. Could it be that he is with Cersei or has his own plans? Because he was getting too predictable for his role and maybe they will turn him into a villain at the end? If he was the old one, he had taken care that Winterfell had been abandoned for one cannot defend it against these numbers. Either the Neck (Moat Cailin) or the Bloody Gate (The entrance to the Vale). An idiotic decision to choose Winterfell as last stand, a topography that favours the Night's King: vast, relatively flat areas to deploy his forces and attack from all sides at ones. But the didn't even bother to soak the ground with some agent to burn the entire army up. The walking dead are walking torches...but no, only the trenches. Winterfell had made sense as trap: to lure his army on these huge areas to lit them up, while the main forces were already on their way to the Vale. If the Night's King has huge chains at his disposal if he needed, he should also have devices to overcome the trenches with ease - but inconsistency is a trademark of these writers: here highly sophisticated in his tools, tactics and strategies, there with brute force only.
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Post by Aj_June on Apr 22, 2019 19:15:05 GMT
Did you guys also notice that there was a strange kind of look on his face? It's as if he had some other things in his mind. He had a kind of deceptive look about him. Also, when he was shown in the last scene before they cut to White Walkers, Tyrion looked creepy as hell. Could it be that he is with Cersei or has his own plans? Because he was getting too predictable for his role and maybe they will turn him into a villain at the end? If he was the old one, he had taken care that Winterfell had been abandoned for one cannot defend it against these numbers. Either the Neck (Moat Cailin) or the Bloody Gate (The entrance to the Vale). An idiotic decision to choose Winterfell as last stand, a topography that favours the Night's King: vast, relatively flat areas to deploy his forces and attack from all sides at ones. But the didn't even bother to soak the ground with some agent to burn the entire army up. The walking dead are walking torches...but no, only the trenches. Winterfell had made sense as trap: to lure his army on these huge areas to lit them up, while the main forces were already on their way to the Vale. If the Night's King has huge chains at his disposal if he needed, he should also have devices to overcome the trenches with ease - but inconsistency is a trademark of these writers: here highly sophisticated in his tools, tactics and strategies, there with brute force only. Mind blowing strategy Blurisk....do you propose my intelligent friend that they should have left the common people of Winterfell and the entire north to die from white walker attacks while our warriors fled to the Vale? or do you propose that somehow they should have taken entire population of north to Vale in a limited amount of time? Not to forget the journey would have been made in snow/cold and the journey could have led to small time thugs etc steal limited food supply. Not to forget they would have been carrying old people & children with them.
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Post by bluerisk on Apr 22, 2019 19:52:15 GMT
If he was the old one, he had taken care that Winterfell had been abandoned for one cannot defend it against these numbers. Either the Neck (Moat Cailin) or the Bloody Gate (The entrance to the Vale). An idiotic decision to choose Winterfell as last stand, a topography that favours the Night's King: vast, relatively flat areas to deploy his forces and attack from all sides at ones. But the didn't even bother to soak the ground with some agent to burn the entire army up. The walking dead are walking torches...but no, only the trenches. Winterfell had made sense as trap: to lure his army on these huge areas to lit them up, while the main forces were already on their way to the Vale. If the Night's King has huge chains at his disposal if he needed, he should also have devices to overcome the trenches with ease - but inconsistency is a trademark of these writers: here highly sophisticated in his tools, tactics and strategies, there with brute force only. Mind blowing strategy Blurisk....do you propose my intelligent friend that they should have left the common people of Winterfell and the entire north to die from white walker attacks while our warriors fled to the Vale? or do you propose that somehow they should have taken entire population of north to Vale in a limited amount of time? Not to forget the journey would have been made in snow/cold and the journey could have led to small time thugs etc steal limited food supply. Not to forget they would have been carrying old people & children with them. I had sent them weeks if not months before to the Vale or South. I had never brought them to Winterfell. Now it is too late of course. It's like with the crypt: No matter if the Knight's King can raise the death in there or not, when Winterfell falls, and it will fall, then they are all doomed. Winterfell is a death trap now. Winterfell was a non starter from the very beginning, just as bringing a corpse to King's Landing, what brought the NK in possession of a dragon and all what came along with it. Winterfell is not suited to make a stand against this army. And their preparation couldn't be worse.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Apr 22, 2019 20:45:25 GMT
I think he has a plan once speaking to Bran.
Otherwise there was no point to the scene.
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