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Post by hehatesshe on Apr 29, 2019 5:56:22 GMT
And Cersei looks like a genius now for not helping since Arya could so easily do it. As Aladdin said, "you think that was easy?"
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Post by anthonyrocks on Apr 29, 2019 5:58:43 GMT
FAVORITE PART
When Arya kills The Night King
SADDEST PART
When Lyanna Mormont Died.....but WOW, She sure went out a Champion!
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Post by movieliker on Apr 29, 2019 6:14:18 GMT
This is what I thought I’ll copy and paste Seriously disappointed. And I don’t even like the WW. Turns out the NK really is just some random fuck who didn’t do anything cool. Didn’t even fight. The symbols mean nothing. Cersei will never deal with him. All the characters had that plot armor from episode 6 last season where hordes of Wights were pinning the down without killing them. Jon did nothing and Dany fought more than him. The battle over all just sucked ass. Couldn’t see shit either. Nobody did anything this episode besides Arya. In fact id say she was the main character of the episode for sure. Bran didn't do anything except warg into Ravens. Most of the characters spent their time pinned under WW or running away. Can anyone name one cool thing a character did in this fight for instance? Besides arya Idk I just expected way more. I didnt want a full on superhero film but I wanted the night king actually fighting for once. Alongside his generals. And all the characters having to team up in a desperate attempt to take him down. But no, the NK stared at bran and that was that. And Cersei looks like a genius now for not helping since Arya could so easily do it. Sorry for the rant just disappointing I thought and felt the dragons were highly underutilized. There are large portions of this episode where they are just missing in action. For example, the whole time between when the trenches were lighted, and the dead start climbing the walls, we see one scene of one dragon firing on the dead fighters. Then we see Jon on his dragon just perched on the castle walls just doing nothing. And Dany and her dragon are nowhere in sight. The dead stood there for a long time until they decided to form a body bridge over the fire. The dragons should have been touching them the whole time. And quite frankly Dany and her dragon were absent for large portions of the battle. We just had to wonder "What were they doing?" Also I agree, much of the battle was either too dark, or too helter skelter close where we couldn't see anything. I gave this episode an 8. Other than those complaints, I found it entertaining. I like Arya killing the Night King. (Although if she hadn't screamed when she was jumping on him, he may have never turned around. )
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Apr 29, 2019 6:15:52 GMT
This is what I thought I’ll copy and paste Seriously disappointed. And I don’t even like the WW. Turns out the NK really is just some random fuck who didn’t do anything cool. Didn’t even fight. The symbols mean nothing. Cersei will never deal with him. All the characters had that plot armor from episode 6 last season where hordes of Wights were pinning the down without killing them. Jon did nothing and Dany fought more than him. The battle over all just sucked ass. Couldn’t see shit either. Nobody did anything this episode besides Arya. In fact id say she was the main character of the episode for sure. Bran didn't do anything except warg into Ravens. Most of the characters spent their time pinned under WW or running away. Can anyone name one cool thing a character did in this fight for instance? Besides arya Idk I just expected way more. I didnt want a full on superhero film but I wanted the night king actually fighting for once. Alongside his generals. And all the characters having to team up in a desperate attempt to take him down. But no, the NK stared at bran and that was that. And Cersei looks like a genius now for not helping since Arya could so easily do it. Sorry for the rant just disappointing This sounds like the whole story was just some dumb fantasy crap without depth after all. Not that I am surprised, I have long understood that GRRM really only writes to splatter gore, sex and shit on the page, but having what every idiot thought "was the real matter" from day one disposed of without much of a resolution is a middle finger I am not sad about. I always saw the human interaction as the main interest in the story and while it still is possible to use it as a basis for meaningful discussion, I also know the fat wanker will not be saying anything on that front either. As to the show, well, it continues giving fools what they want. I suppose anyone who didn't feel insulted by the Arya story in S6 is happy today.
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Post by Marendil on Apr 29, 2019 9:44:19 GMT
I gave it an '8.'
It was an awesome spectacle but so much of the dialogue was crap, the plot of the battle made little sense and only my dislike of the Night King and the Zombie Apocalypse storyline allows me to forgive it being that easy to end the menace after seven seasons of build up.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Apr 29, 2019 11:39:53 GMT
Daenerys fans are so thick, you have to explain everything to them and bury them with a paper copy of it to be safe.
dont think they would have missandei say that for nothing it foreshadows something bad for dany
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Apr 29, 2019 16:15:58 GMT
Solid 9
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Post by Troyal1 on Apr 29, 2019 16:25:15 GMT
This guy gets it. The WW generals are supposed to be badass warriors They basically just walked up to their spot and let themselves die like weak ass bitches. I will say, I was hoping that the NK would have lived after Arya stabbed him and smiled like he did after the dragon fire didn't work. Would have been unexpected and gotten a reaction like "oh shit, the NK is immune to this too. Wtf do we do now?" Agree 100%. the show has no balls to do that anymore. Also how is dragon fire=immune but steel made from dragon fire=a death blow?
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Post by Troyal1 on Apr 29, 2019 16:33:55 GMT
They basically just walked up to their spot and let themselves die like weak ass bitches. I will say, I was hoping that the NK would have lived after Arya stabbed him and smiled like he did after the dragon fire didn't work. Would have been unexpected and gotten a reaction like "oh shit, the NK is immune to this too. Wtf do we do now?" And then what? He raised all of the dead again so they would absolutely kill everyone left alive who would then join their army and move on to Kings Landing where they only have 20k troops or so? Come on man. Well yeah. The hero’s would have escaped on the dragons back and everyone would basically be forced to come up with a miracle. Retreat to dragonstone. Cersei preps a invasion of KL. That's how you make things feel hopeless. That’s what GOT used to be. Not this Hollywood movie mess where barely anyone suffers. Literally only 2 main characters died and everyone else had really big plot armor. And even the main characters weren’t really the MAINS
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Apr 29, 2019 16:39:41 GMT
I agree the whole scene looked over the top but I bet arya fans are really happy , so I guess that is what GM is doing in the books too ? Maybe. I like Aria, and I'm sure her biggest fans are happy, but it all just feels so weird. Basically the producer's favorite character got to be the hero. And did you hear what they said about Jon? They said Jon always gets to be the hero. That's why they didn't have him kill the Night King. Yeah, no shit he's always the hero. He's the hero of this story. Aria killing the Night King is fine. I like her. But it was the ultimate fan service moment. The Night King's death could have felt like more than that. I know what you mean , I heard them say that about Jon and I was like Ok they really wanted someone else to be the hero I guess what I don't like much about being arya and not Jon is that Jon had all the previous interactions with the WW he fought them before he came face to face with the NK before so for GM not to give this moment to Jon means he will give him another big moment another chance to be the hero in something else,and I doubt very much arya will have another big moment or a big kill the one most arya fans are expecting for her to kill cersei and it won't happen .
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Apr 29, 2019 16:40:40 GMT
They basically just walked up to their spot and let themselves die like weak ass bitches. I will say, I was hoping that the NK would have lived after Arya stabbed him and smiled like he did after the dragon fire didn't work. Would have been unexpected and gotten a reaction like "oh shit, the NK is immune to this too. Wtf do we do now?" Agree 100%. the show has no balls to do that anymore. Also how is dragon fire=immune but steel made from dragon fire=a death blow? Logic was given up two seasons ago. There's no point expecting any of it. Things happen for spectacle and emotion, nothing else. I had already given up watching the crap but when I learned how Arya had just turned up alone next to Walder Frey to conveniently murder him, I knew there was no coming back to anything worth analysing from this point of view. She had become the magic problem solver bringing cheap gratification to morons and it remained so. I read she fell from the sky onto the Night King just at the right moment, past his whole array of White Walkers and no one could do anything.
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Post by hehatesshe on Apr 29, 2019 17:17:11 GMT
Daenerys fans are so thick, you have to explain everything to them and bury them with a paper copy of it to be safe.
dont think they would have missandei say that for nothing it foreshadows something bad for dany No it doesn't.
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Post by movieliker on Apr 29, 2019 18:11:10 GMT
Agree 100%. the show has no balls to do that anymore. Also how is dragon fire=immune but steel made from dragon fire=a death blow? Logic was given up two seasons ago. There's no point expecting any of it. Things happen for spectacle and emotion, nothing else. I had already given up watching the crap but when I learned how Arya had just turned up alone next to Walder Frey to conveniently murder him, I knew there was no coming back to anything worth analysing from this point of view. She had become the magic problem solver bringing cheap gratification to morons and it remained so. I read she fell from the sky onto the Night King just at the right moment, past his whole array of White Walkers and no one could do anything. I agree. This next complaint would fit most action movies and TV shows. But don't believe soldiers actually scream that much in battle. That is just an overused ploy to add melodrama to action scenes. Like somebody falling yelling "AAAAAAAaaaaaa" all the way down. But that wouldn't be just Game of Thrones.
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Post by movieliker on Apr 29, 2019 18:14:21 GMT
Also, how the fuck does Sam live through this? I swear for like back to back scenes we just saw his ass laying down and crying while lightly stabbing a white walker. Everyone is getting attacked but he just gets to lay down? Ha ha ha . . . And when he wasn't laying down, he was running away . . . Ha ha ha . . . !!!
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Post by movieliker on Apr 29, 2019 18:27:51 GMT
They basically just walked up to their spot and let themselves die like weak ass bitches. I will say, I was hoping that the NK would have lived after Arya stabbed him and smiled like he did after the dragon fire didn't work. Would have been unexpected and gotten a reaction like "oh shit, the NK is immune to this too. Wtf do we do now?" Agree 100%. the show has no balls to do that anymore. Also how is dragon fire=immune but steel made from dragon fire=a death blow? You know you're in trouble when the only explanations for stuff are "Well maybe . . . " But I will give this one a shot. The Ice King was immune to fire because he was so cold. But Valerian Steel has been touted the whole show as superior, almost magical. So . . . maybe you can't kill ice with fire, but magical steel . . . ?? ?? ??
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Post by kevin on Apr 29, 2019 19:08:38 GMT
A bit late to the party, but I watched the episode and it was incredible. Intense, impeccably directed & a fantastic culmination of the White Walker conflict. And this is something I'll always stand behind: the cinematography in this episode is gorgeous. The natural lighting is a stroke of genius and with the exception of 2 moments in the first 30 minutes, I never had any problem with seeing what was going on. Beautiful use of orange with the fire and the way it's shot results in a claustrophobic feeling, something truly unique (maybe with the exception of Battle of the Bastards). The way Sapochnik manages to immerse the viewer in this battle while constantly switching to different characters is a great achievement. Seriously the cinematography in this episode is top 3 GoT level. I can see why it is a divisive episode, but where I leaned more towards the disappointed side a few days after watching 'Beyond the Wall', I'm quite sure I'll remain on the extremely satisfied side for this episode. I can't wait for the rest of the season and the final battle for the throne, but this is the perfect mid-season finale I needed, 10/10.
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Post by bluerisk on Apr 29, 2019 19:17:31 GMT
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Post by Marv on Apr 29, 2019 19:53:07 GMT
Not every tv is the same obviously but I just changed my settings from ‘cinema’ to ‘game’ and it fixed almost everything visually. I can see throughout the dark scenes and even the first charge of the undead I can make out who’s a zombie and who’s a soldier.
Thought I’d share for anyone rewatching who had trouble with this the first time like I did.
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Post by CynicalDreamer2 on Apr 29, 2019 22:29:25 GMT
FAVORITE PART
When Arya kills The Night King
SADDEST PART
When Lyanna Mormont Died.....but WOW, She sure went out a Champion!
She definitely walked her talk didn’t she?
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Post by CynicalDreamer2 on Apr 29, 2019 22:33:25 GMT
Not every tv is the same obviously but I just changed my settings from ‘cinema’ to ‘game’ and it fixed almost everything visually. I can see throughout the dark scenes and even the first charge of the undead I can make out who’s a zombie and who’s a soldier. Thought I’d share for anyone rewatching who had trouble with this the first time like I did. Gonna try it and rewatch, thanks.
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