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Post by coldenhaulfield on May 16, 2019 0:08:43 GMT
Your inability to rebut anything I've written (and therefore, your concession to my argument) has been duly noted. All too easy. Your inability to understand even the basics of film industry economics and the reality of brand management has been duly noted. Nah, you never noted it. Nor did you refute a single FACT I stated, kiddo.
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Post by faustus5 on May 16, 2019 11:02:13 GMT
Nah, you never noted it. Nor did you refute a single FACT I stated, kiddo. Sorry to break it to you, but your facts do not support your thesis. You couldn't reason from a fact to a justified conclusion if your worthless life depended on it.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on May 16, 2019 11:44:40 GMT
Nah, you never noted it. Nor did you refute a single FACT I stated, kiddo. Sorry to break it to you, but your facts do not support your thesis. You couldn't reason from a fact to a justified conclusion if your worthless life depended on it. So start with the facts, as a serious non-troll would: where's the lie?
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Post by faustus5 on May 16, 2019 11:59:48 GMT
Sorry to break it to you, but your facts do not support your thesis. You couldn't reason from a fact to a justified conclusion if your worthless life depended on it. So start with the facts, as a serious non-troll would: where's the lie? The facts you cited only support the notion that the franchise hit a minor bump. You need more data points to justify anything else, but you are driven more by your psychopathic ideology than any commitment to objective reality.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on May 16, 2019 12:09:55 GMT
So start with the facts, as a serious non-troll would: where's the lie? The facts you cited only support the notion that the franchise hit a minor bump. You need more data points to justify anything else, but you are driven more by your psychopathic ideology than any commitment to objective reality. There you go, mang. That's called a counterargument and isn't just bloviating/pontificating. So now your original point was about the "endless possibilities," which I rightly challenged by saying that they can't explore those ideas without commercial demand and then cited examples that any thinking person would perceive as a setback for the franchise as it was intended to develop post-2015 -- really, post-2019 since they released what they wanted "according to plan" during the initial four or five years. And what I perceive as a major retreat and setback (which in the short-term, it absolutely is: they've dramatically reduced the amount of content and changed the primary medium of transmitting it) you're calling a minor bump. Notwithstanding your abject inabaility to lean on reason rather than ad hominem and insistence on sputtering for several replies at time while saying nothing of substance whatsoever: what stories, then, would you have them focus on going forward, and what (apart from Last Jedi) do you think has been narratively -- not commercially -- successful from this current Disney run of Star Wars films, specifically? ETA: My answers are: the distant future and, by far, Rebels. KOTOR is just another minefield of nerd-rage, as I see it.
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Post by faustus5 on May 16, 2019 18:27:02 GMT
And what I perceive as a major retreat and setback (which in the short-term, it absolutely is: they've dramatically reduced the amount of content and changed the primary medium of transmitting it) you're calling a minor bump. Yep, because you have too few data points over too short a period. Let's see what happens with the next film, then see what happens with the TV show. Anything that is in the the ballpark of what has been in the comics and novels over the last few years would be tasty. In particular, I'd love a Kenobi or Old Republic movie. An adaptation of anything Claudia Gray has written would be especially cool. Just have her write the script, no matter what era in SW or what character! Everything but Solo, and I didn't hate Solo as much as everyone else seems to. Nonetheless, it was the first Star Wars movie I will never bother to own. Those would be fine. I think fans would love KOTOR, though, unless they chickened out and took out the twist.
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Post by Prime etc. on May 16, 2019 18:33:50 GMT
AVATAR 2 (12/17/21) UNTITLED STAR WARS (12/16/22) AVATAR 3 (12/22/23) UNTITLED STAR WARS (12/20/24) AVATAR 4 (12/19/25) UNTITLED STAR WARS (12/18/26) AVATAR 5 (12/17/27)
Holy shit-so much marketplace variety to look forward to. Thank you Disney for your steadfast devotion to a diversity of ideas.
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Post by kleinreturns on May 17, 2019 20:36:47 GMT
Good and bad. Bad: I'll have a three year gap between movies. Good: I'll have three years where I won't have to hear grown-ass men whining about how a movie ruined their childhood. Sadly people will still be complaining between 2019 and 2022.
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Post by kuatorises on Jun 7, 2019 13:06:25 GMT
Your inability to rebut anything I've written (and therefore, your concession to my argument) has been duly noted. All too easy. Your inability to understand even the basics of film industry economics and the reality of brand management has been duly noted. He understands you, he just doesn't care. Colden prefers trolling to real conversation.
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Post by kuatorises on Jun 7, 2019 13:17:12 GMT
Disney was VERY stupid to literally announce they were taking a break and then undo that announcement in a matter of weeks. A good movie is a good movie and some fans will go see it, but there's definite franchise burnout.
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Post by coldenhaulfield on Jun 17, 2019 16:47:05 GMT
And what I perceive as a major retreat and setback (which in the short-term, it absolutely is: they've dramatically reduced the amount of content and changed the primary medium of transmitting it) you're calling a minor bump. Yep, because you have too few data points over too short a period. Let's see what happens with the next film, then see what happens with the TV show. Anything that is in the the ballpark of what has been in the comics and novels over the last few years would be tasty. In particular, I'd love a Kenobi or Old Republic movie. An adaptation of anything Claudia Gray has written would be especially cool. Just have her write the script, no matter what era in SW or what character! Everything but Solo, and I didn't hate Solo as much as everyone else seems to. Nonetheless, it was the first Star Wars movie I will never bother to own. Those would be fine. I think fans would love KOTOR, though, unless they chickened out and took out the twist. What's the twist? I never played the KOTOR games or read the books. It's the one area of EU I just never got around to exploring.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2019 23:48:24 GMT
Yep, because you have too few data points over too short a period. Let's see what happens with the next film, then see what happens with the TV show. Anything that is in the the ballpark of what has been in the comics and novels over the last few years would be tasty. In particular, I'd love a Kenobi or Old Republic movie. An adaptation of anything Claudia Gray has written would be especially cool. Just have her write the script, no matter what era in SW or what character! Everything but Solo, and I didn't hate Solo as much as everyone else seems to. Nonetheless, it was the first Star Wars movie I will never bother to own. Those would be fine. I think fans would love KOTOR, though, unless they chickened out and took out the twist.What's the twist? I never played the KOTOR games or read the books. It's the one area of EU I just never got around to exploring. Ahh, the twist! SPOILERS AHEAD! SPOILERS AHEAD! That's quite a story. The game/story starts out like ANH. But it's the protagonist that has to escape via an escape pod. He joins another key character (seasoned Republic soldier Carth Onassi). The planet they escape to is not a Tattooine. It is a jaded, rundown version of Coruscant called Taris. The protagonist deals with bounty hunters, crime syndicates, street gangs, and impoverished underworlds on an adventure to find a young female Jedi with a unique Force power who can stop the Sith Lord. Then escape the planet. The Sith Lord imposed a quarantine around the planet preventing anyone from leaving while they hunt down the female Jedi Bastilla and your party. (Other allies joined the protagonist along the way). They eventually escape, stealing a cargo ship of a crime lord. Think Millennium Falcon. The ships appearance and design is very similar to it. The Sith Lord commands his Star Destroyer fleet to destroy the entire planet and the good guys escape just in time. They fly to a safe planet with a Jedi training academy called Dantooine (which was mentioned by Leia in ANH when Tarkin destroyed her home planet). Here the protagonist is trained to be a Jedi. This sets up the buildup to the twist. The good guys are sent on a clue hunting mission across the galaxy to find the secret base and factory that makes the Sith Lords armies invincible. And they are fueled by the shock and outrage over the Sith Lords lust for wiping out planets. They must find pieces of a map on different planets. Think: the search for Luke in TFA. But the twist comes about three quarters of the way through the story. It's almost on the "Darth Vader is your father!" level. Wait for it. It turns out that the true-blue protagonist is actually a former Sith Lord who suffered amnesia. Then was given a new identity by the Jedi!
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