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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2019 23:17:48 GMT
I was watching AQUAMAN again last night and I started thinking that if I didn't know who directed it, my first guess would've been Zack Snyder. Yes, it's much lighter and doesn't take itself as seriously, but that's really the only difference.
First, both directors are obsessed with big grand artificial FX driven camera work and imagery that, on the one hand, are somewhat admiral for being ambitious, but ultimately are just fake looking and stupid.
Both directors cannot tell the difference between "cool" things and good story/character. And because of this, they both have the creative sensibilities of an eighth grader.
Finally, they rarely get good performances from their actors. And even good actors come across as stilted and over the top.
Now, of course a lot of this is the Aquaman script. But Wan takes even decent stuff and makes it worse. Take Black Manta- he's paper thin, yes. But on paper, his role in the story is perfectly satisfactory. He's a secondary villain, being set up for the sequel. So why do I hate him? Because James Wan's idea of a menacing villain is a guy that mean mugs the camera like an emo teen or some obnoxious rapper trying to look like a gangster. And it takes what should be a memorable villain and makes him cringeworthy. I don't expect a lot of subtlety in an Aquaman movie, but those mean mug shots are just laughable. Did Wan just yell at the actor: "LOOK MEAN! No... Meaner! MEANER!!!!@!! Really really MEAN! That's it! Now do it again every scene!"
Its funny to me how people say Wan elevated a mediocre script. I say he took a mediocre script and made it worse. I give him credit for some of the better elements and visuals, but I find him to be just another Snyder.
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Post by sdrew13163 on May 17, 2019 6:12:28 GMT
I think they’re very similar with the way they shoot action. In fact the majority of Aquaman’s action looked just like BvS or Watchmen’s. In my opinion that’s a very good thing.
Where I disagree is that Wan made the movie worse than the script. I don’t think he elevated the movie above the script either. I think he made the exact movie that was on paper. That movie just so happened to be crazy over-the-top and pretty much didn’t give a shit about anything except entertainment value.
I do wish they’d invest in better writers to make more compelling stories. Part of the reason why these performances are bad is because the dialogue is paper thin and pretty bad.
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Post by politicidal on May 17, 2019 15:32:15 GMT
Guys they got Chris Terrio! He won an Oscar, remember!
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Post by hi224 on May 17, 2019 18:33:09 GMT
Guys they got Chris Terrio! He won an Oscar, remember! lol.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on May 23, 2019 1:50:30 GMT
I don't agree. What sets Snyder apart from other big dumb popcorn directors is that he actually thinks he's making some deep stuff. There's nothing pretentious about Aquaman, it knows exactly what it is. Maybe to a fault.
If it were Snyder, Ocean Master would be misquoting Nietzsche and we'd get a cameo from Nancy Grace talking about Atlantis' tax policies.
Not to mention, Snyder's version of cool is that of the Randian nihilist that loves him some murder. If this were Snyder, that scene where Aquabro second guesses leaving Manta's dad to die doesn't exist. He probably goes back to stomp the guy's head in Drive-style before he exits the sub.
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Post by Prime etc. on May 23, 2019 1:52:41 GMT
At first I thought the title said James Wan is basically Zack Galligan
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Post by syafiqjabar on May 24, 2019 2:05:25 GMT
Oh, I thought this was going to be about how great a director Wan is. Never mind.
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Post by thisguy4000 on May 25, 2019 18:58:27 GMT
What if James Wan had been in charge of DC movies instead of Zack Snyder?
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Post by syafiqjabar on Jun 12, 2019 9:46:14 GMT
Aquaman is what you get when you take a marvel movie and give it to a competent director that you don't hamstring with bullshit executive meddling. It's got a dumb plot with lame humor, but it's visually stunning, the action scenes are competent and it sticks the landing on the third act. It's a better version of black panther, only instead of the dumb centrist theme of "we defeat racism by giving poor black people bootstraps" it's "purity of blood is stupid, immigrants make us stronger,"
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Post by Skaathar on Jun 12, 2019 17:57:50 GMT
Nah, they're very different. The only real similarity between them is the way they shoot action, but even there I can spot differences. For example, Snyder likes slow-motion shots way more. Snyder usually prefers to focus on a few combatants at a time, usually a duel, whereas Wan (at least for Aquaman) has more smash-them-up group fights. Snyder has a better eye for epic shots but I think Wan has a better sense for visceral (i.e. painful looking) action. That's not to say that Snyder's action isn't violent, in fact I think he glorifies in making his fight scenes as violent as rating can get him, but Wan has a more frenetic way of shooting action whereas Snyder's is more poetic... which ends up making Snyder's action easier to follow but also feels more distant.
But the main difference between them is how they handle the movie outside the action. Wan allows his characters to breath and relax. Act like regular human beings. Snyder usually fills his non-action moments with drama and tension in an effort to build up to the next action sequence.
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Post by hobowar on Jun 16, 2019 12:21:24 GMT
Aquaman is what you get when you take a marvel movie and give it to a competent director that you don't hamstring with bullshit executive meddling. It's got a dumb plot with lame humor, but it's visually stunning, the action scenes are competent and it sticks the landing on the third act. It's a better version of black panther, only instead of the dumb centrist theme of "we defeat racism by giving poor black people bootstraps" it's "purity of blood is stupid, immigrants make us stronger," My God, that was stupid.
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Post by politicidal on Jun 16, 2019 16:45:23 GMT
What if James Wan had been in charge of DC movies instead of Zack Snyder? Then they might exist tone-wise somewhere between Aquaman and Furious 7.
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