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Post by Marv on Jun 28, 2019 22:02:15 GMT
I had no expectations coming in to this...if anything i was sure it'd be meh, an unnecessary retread....
But i loved it. Easily my second favorite Halloween film right behind the first. All the little things were so good. The music was great...obviously it had the iconic theme but there were a lot of different scores throughout that captured the scenes perfectly. I thought it did a great job not only with main characters but introducing expendable extras and getting you to relate to them immediately. So much casual dialog felt natural. There was still a moment or two of obvious scripted nonsense but a lot of the dialog just came across as normal human interaction. Michael was great. I don't know if he's ever seemed like such a force of nature as he did here. Less a stalker and more of a shark endlessly searching for the next kill. The gore was there too. Some brutal kills, even after the fact when someone stumbles upon a horribly disfigured dead body...the effect is still there even if we didn't see the killing blow. I even enjoyed the decades of Strode women fighting him off in the end. Solid slasher flick and a great addition to the yearly halloween movie marathon.
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Post by rogerthat on Jun 28, 2019 22:05:27 GMT
I would put it after original first three.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jun 28, 2019 22:25:49 GMT
The less stalking and amped up brutality was a negative for me. He didn't feel like Michael. If this Michael were in the original, that movie would have been 12 minutes long. This is especially a problem to me when your movie is going out of its way to present itself as "the true sequel".
I did like Laurie Conner, although the focus on her made making her and Michael unrelated kinda pointless. Then the new characters just sucked. Annoying teens, that horrible doctor, side characters improving about their shitty lunch and dance classes. Ughhhh.
I originally ranked it fourth (after 1, H20, and 4) but I debate moving it to sixth place under II and III.
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Post by politicidal on Jun 28, 2019 23:48:27 GMT
I was liking it for the first half but then it settled into what I've seen before.
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Post by James on Jun 29, 2019 0:52:41 GMT
The greatest of the post millennium Halloween movies. It does get more flawed with each viewing, but I still think it’s very enjoyable and a good followup to the original.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jun 29, 2019 11:25:56 GMT
I mostly like it. I do agree with an above sentiment that the ultra brutal approach is a little out of character. That's ok, and one could argue that he's been waiting so long that he's not going to be wasting time taking things slowly, and that's fair. But I think a bit more slow paced creepiness would have helped, and would have kept it in line with the idea that they were connecting to more closely to the original. Generally,.I expected it to hue a little more closely to the visual approach of the original.
There's a good deleted scene where Laurie's granddaughter is jogging and spots a grisly crime scene then stops and sees Michael down the street staring at them from a distance. More of that patience and voyuerism in distant wide shots would have gone a long way for me.
Some of the dialogue works better than it does at other times, and some of the disposable teens are less worth spending time with than others, and I really hated that twist with the doctor... but I liked most of the main characters and some sequences are really well put together. And the look and demeanor of Michael is great. Also, the John Carpenter and co. score is really excellent.. and that opening credits approach was cool.
I'll definitely watch it again now that it's on HBO, but it certainly ranks among the top of the list of Halloween movies. Most of them aren't very good, so maybe that's not high praise, but it was going for something a little more than most of them. And I never got the extreme love for Halloween 2. It's fine, but it's clearly a step away from the first movie and step toward the exploitation slashers that the first Halloween was so far above.
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Post by simest on Jun 30, 2019 22:51:15 GMT
For all their posturing about this connecting to the original and snubbing all of the sequels, for me, the makers of this made a movie no better than at least half of those it ignored.
We have a Michael, crashing through Haddonfield, targeting children amongst everyone else and stomping from door to door slaughtering anyone unlucky enough to be inside.
No period of daytime stalking, no patient observing, no toying with the victims and carefully waiting for the right moment to strike. No, this Michael is here to just batter, bludgeon and slash as many as he can without any predetermination.
Oh, and he's not above simply stomping on your head too.
A far cry from the eerie, unfathomable and almost intangible character in the original who spent all day dogging his victims' footsteps and fleeting in and out of sight - sometimes just mere feet away. A character that carefully planned when to strike and strategically targeted teenage girls in the ilk of his very first victim - his sister Judith - whose death he is surely restaging over and over.
Michael in 2018 has no such interesting pathology. No, here he's just like a bull in a china shop plowing through everything in his path. No subtlety, no finesse, no eerie craft or design to his actions. Oh, there's brutality instead though.......spadefuls of it in fact. But for all the head-stomping, detailed slashing, impaling and carnage, there is barely a scare or any suspense.
And just like HALLOWEEN II (1981) and HALLOWEEN H20:20 YEARS LATER (two movies which I feel were vastly superior to this, I might add), HALLOWEEN 2018 still set itself up as a terribly familiar and telegraphed showdown between Michael and Laurie. After all the bragging about jettisoning the brother/sister plotline, they might as well have just left it in because the dynamic ultimately was the same.
The ending also with Laurie having Michael trapped before her with a whole arsenal of weapons at her disposal - only to walk away from the fiery climax without seeing him die made me audibly groan so loud that someone in the theatre turned around and gave me a stare! Considering how hell-bent she was to "finish this", this moment ranked just as absurd as the disastrous subplot involving the villainous doctor..........which I'm not even going to get started on.
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Post by Raimo47 on Jul 1, 2019 14:47:21 GMT
It's almost as good as Halloween 5, but the ending is much worse.
1. Halloween (1978) 2. Halloween II (1981) 3. Halloween 4: The Return of Michael Myers 4. Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers 5. Halloween H20: 20 Years Later 6. Halloween 5: The Revenge of Michael Myers 7. Halloween (2018) 8. Halloween (2007) 9. Halloween: Resurrection 10. Halloween II (2009)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2019 18:07:01 GMT
It was good, but it fumbled a couple of things really badly.
Like, the whole Doctor who wanted to be Michael, and then gets killed straight after. That was very weird, and only really served to move Michael from one place to another. Awkward writing.
And then the boyfriend who cheated on whatserface... got away with it clean, no consequences to that at all. That was odd writing too.
I was very amused by the Red Letter Media take on this, where they suggested that within this continuity (ignoring the previous sequels) maybe Michael doesn't care about Laurie in the slightest. Maybe he's like a shark that just attacks whatever he comes across, and he was only ever after her in the first place because he randomly encountered her in the town. All those years she's terrified that he's going to come for her, assuming he has some obsession with killing her specifically, and meanwhile he hasn't got a clue who she is and just wanted to go around town killing random people again. The would have been a cool twist to the story if they'd done it.
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Post by theshape25 on Jul 6, 2019 20:46:54 GMT
I was very amused by the Red Letter Media take on this, where they suggested that within this continuity (ignoring the previous sequels) maybe Michael doesn't care about Laurie in the slightest. Maybe he's like a shark that just attacks whatever he comes across, and he was only ever after her in the first place because he randomly encountered her in the town. All those years she's terrified that he's going to come for her, assuming he has some obsession with killing her specifically, and meanwhile he hasn't got a clue who she is and just wanted to go around town killing random people again. The would have been a cool twist to the story if they'd done it. That's pretty much how I took it. In the original Halloween he went home. He saw Laurie delivering the key. She reminded him of Judith, he became obsessed with her, and that's why she was his target in the first two movies. In this one, I don't believe that he returned to Haddonfield for Laurie. The only reason he even wound up at Laurie's place was because, as you said, Sartain was his vehicle. When he got to her house he had no idea that's where she lived. He attacked it merely because it was there. As much as I like Jamie Lee Curtis I think this movie may have benefitted had she not been in it. Yes, I'm sure she had suffered a huge trauma as a result of the 1978 attacks, and yes, I'm sure she was afraid that Myers would come after her again, but that was not Myers' motive. As Simest mentioned above, why lose the sister/brother thing if they're going to have the focus of this movie be a show down between them? What I would have done, and this is just my opinion, if they had to have JLC back, why not have her hear the news about Myers escaping? Then she could have taken on sort of a Loomis role and warn the cops. They don't take her serious but humor her, as Brackett did with Loomis, and they try to search for Myers as he's stalking and killing people? Then at the end they could have had their showdown. No need for a crazy doctor helping Myers escape, killing a cop, and all that craziness.
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Post by darkreviewer2013 on Jul 8, 2019 1:26:54 GMT
It's almost as good as Halloween 5, but the ending is much worse. 1. Halloween (1978) 2. Halloween II (1981) 3. Halloween 4: The Return of Michael Myers 4. Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers 5. Halloween H20: 20 Years Later 6. Halloween 5: The Revenge of Michael Myers 7. Halloween (2018)8. Halloween (2007) 9. Halloween: Resurrection 10. Halloween II (2009) I haven't seen the 2018 film yet, but as someone who considers Halloween 5 the best of the Michael Myers sequels I'd actually consider that a recommendation.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jul 11, 2019 12:54:47 GMT
I'm a little surprised at how well liked some of the later Halloween sequels seem to be. Especially 6...
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