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Post by Agent of Chaos on Jul 12, 2019 17:52:08 GMT
After rewatching Days of Future Past I can see why Xavier did what he did in Dark Phoenix. In the movie he said that it was because "a pyschic's mind is fragile and it takes the slightest tip to send it in the wrong direction" he is referring to his experience in DOFP where his powers were out on control because of the emotional pain he felt. I can understand why he wanted to shield Jean from the pain.
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Jul 12, 2019 18:39:39 GMT
Check your private messages here, High.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jul 12, 2019 21:00:33 GMT
He wasn't behaving like a jerk, he only came off as one with hindsight.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Jul 13, 2019 22:23:58 GMT
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jul 13, 2019 22:38:24 GMT
It was evident to me as I watched the film, and as a result, it made everyone's criticism of Charles seem stupid and unwarranted. Basically: "I stopped you from killing yourself and a whole lot of other people." "Yes but, you're an asshole, and I hate you because you held me back from my full potential as a mass murderer. I'm every woman. Mass murder is in me." Makes no sense.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Jul 13, 2019 23:15:35 GMT
It was evident to me as I watched the film, and as a result, it made everyone's criticism of Charles seem stupid and unwarranted. Basically: "I stopped you from killing yourself and a whole lot of other people." "Yes but, you're an asshole, and I hate you because you held me back from my full potential as a mass murderer. I'm every woman. Mass murder is in me." Makes no sense. Jean wanted to be "fixed" and Hank has a serum that can suppressed mutant powers. So it makes sense for them to be pissed. Also, its stated that the entity inside Jean is amplifying her rage. Basically, Jean wanted him to do what he did in X3.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Jul 13, 2019 23:55:34 GMT
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jul 14, 2019 0:00:31 GMT
If Jean’s power was left unchecked, she might have maimed or killed more people (either unintentionally or otherwise). The decision to alter her memories and block her powers was moral if not strictly ethical. |
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jul 14, 2019 0:02:36 GMT
It was evident to me as I watched the film, and as a result, it made everyone's criticism of Charles seem stupid and unwarranted. Basically: "I stopped you from killing yourself and a whole lot of other people." "Yes but, you're an asshole, and I hate you because you held me back from my full potential as a mass murderer. I'm every woman. Mass murder is in me." Makes no sense. Jean wanted to be "fixed" and Hank has a serum that can suppressed mutant powers. So it makes sense for them to be pissed. Also, its stated that the entity inside Jean is amplifying her rage. Basically, Jean wanted him to do what he did in X3. Who cares what a 10-year-old kid wants? Adults have a duty to protect children the best way they can, not reason with them as if they were adults. |
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Jul 14, 2019 0:54:17 GMT
If Jean’s power was left unchecked, she might have maimed or killed more people (either unintentionally or otherwise). The decision to alter her memories and block her powers was moral if not strictly ethical. Xavier didn't block her powers, just altered her memories.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jul 14, 2019 0:57:18 GMT
If Jean’s power was left unchecked, she might have maimed or killed more people (either unintentionally or otherwise). The decision to alter her memories and block her powers was moral if not strictly ethical. Xavier didn't block her powers, just altered her memories. The net effect is that she was emotionally stable as a result of the changes. She posed no threat to herself or to anyone (who didn't have it coming) when using her powers.
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Post by Martin Brundle - Martinfly on Jul 14, 2019 11:03:24 GMT
Xavier couldn't have foreseen the bonding with the Cosmic Entity. That was an "unprecedented" event. It was an anomaly.
Xavier just took care of Jean's natural mutant powers and sured the "Last Stand" scenario would not happen (again). UNLIKE the two original timelines, Xavier did not suppress her powers and she was already Phoenix by the end of "Apocalypse".
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Jul 21, 2019 2:58:53 GMT
Xavier didn't block her powers, just altered her memories. The net effect is that she was emotionally stable as a result of the changes. She posed no threat to herself or to anyone (who didn't have it coming) when using her powers. Oh, just remembered that another reason why Jean was angry at Xavier is because became paranoid like Mystique and thought he was using her for her power.
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