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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2019 23:04:37 GMT
So Spiderman definitely blipped which means that the kids who stayed and looked older (like the asian guy) presumably continued going to school and advancing in grades. So why would they still be in the same class? They didn't just sit around doing nothing, waiting until they come back to recommence life did they?
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Post by Nora on Jul 13, 2019 23:49:02 GMT
So Spiderman definitely blipped which means that the kids who stayed and looked older (like the asian guy) presumably continued going to school and advancing in grades. So why would they still be in the same class? They didn't just sit around doing nothing, waiting until they come back to recommence life did they? correct its all effed up, it would screw people up a lot and be very harmful to the aociety in the long run... |
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Jul 14, 2019 13:17:15 GMT
The Asian guy wasn't in their class before the blip
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2019 14:13:27 GMT
The Asian guy wasn't in their class before the blip then he shouldn't be older looking then all of them. He should be the same real age, and was presumably just a toddler before the blip. Maybe I'm misunderstanding how the blip worked. But I thought earth basically kept happening for 5 years and then all of the blipped came back after that but still from 5 years ago (in other words they jumped forward in time without aging). So when spiderman came back, he still needed to start school where he left off. Is this incorrect? |
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Post by Nora on Jul 14, 2019 21:09:46 GMT
The Asian guy wasn't in their class before the blip then he shouldn't be older looking then all of them. He should be the same real age, and was presumably just a toddler before the blip. Maybe I'm misunderstanding how the blip worked. But I thought earth basically kept happening for 5 years and then all of the blipped came back after that but still from 5 years ago (in other words they jumped forward in time without aging). So when spiderman came back, he still needed to start school where he left off. Is this incorrect? its correct. the blip would have fucked things up for people beyond who looks older etc. i am convinced that after 5 years the society would be better off, and most of them moved on, and having so many people come back all off a sudden would fuck things up MASSIVELY - the movie mentions homelessness as a result. thats good, but thats only such a tiny faction - joblessness - divorce/remarriage/ being pronounced dead, my heirs getting my earthly possessions, my younger friends and family members now being older than me, - relationships broken beyond repair, not to mention the damage to earth by having all the people come back. - elections. would it coount if only half of population got to vote? - people who were bliped in jail. would they go back to jail after being resurrected? - tenures. would 5 years count against it? - leasing, mortgages, contracts you have with various providers, imagine all of that and the consequences. I can honestly see a civil war as the Most Likely result of the stupid Resurrection. in some way, Thanos was a the tru hero.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 14, 2019 21:23:25 GMT
The Asian guy wasn't in their class before the blip then he shouldn't be older looking then all of them. He should be the same real age, and was presumably just a toddler before the blip. Maybe I'm misunderstanding how the blip worked. But I thought earth basically kept happening for 5 years and then all of the blipped came back after that but still from 5 years ago (in other words they jumped forward in time without aging). Yes, that's how it worked. Basically, a weak cop-out. Bring everyone back 5 years later without any consequences.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 14, 2019 21:27:50 GMT
then he shouldn't be older looking then all of them. He should be the same real age, and was presumably just a toddler before the blip. Maybe I'm misunderstanding how the blip worked. But I thought earth basically kept happening for 5 years and then all of the blipped came back after that but still from 5 years ago (in other words they jumped forward in time without aging). So when spiderman came back, he still needed to start school where he left off. Is this incorrect? its correct. the blip would have fucked things up for people beyond who looks older etc. i am convinced that after 5 years the society would be better off, and most of them moved on, and having so many people come back all off a sudden would fuck things up MASSIVELY - the movie mentions homelessness as a result. thats good, but thats only such a tiny faction Yep, there probably would've been massive foreclosures since the people who got blipped weren't around to pay the mortgage for 5 years. - divorce/remarriage/ being pronounced dead, my heirs getting my earthly possessions Yep, people who got blipped would've been declared legally dead, life insurance policies would've been paid out to heirs, spouses who didn't get blipped out would've moved on and possibly re-married. - leasing, mortgages, contracts you have with various providers, imagine all of that and the consequences. I can honestly see a civil war as the Most Likely result of the stupid Resurrection. MCU movies have no consequences. That's why the Resurrection is a weak cop-out. Just bring everyone back with no consequences.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Jul 14, 2019 23:48:23 GMT
The Asian guy wasn't in their class before the blip then he shouldn't be older looking then all of them. He should be the same real age, and was presumably just a toddler before the blip. Maybe I'm misunderstanding how the blip worked. But I thought earth basically kept happening for 5 years and then all of the blipped came back after that but still from 5 years ago (in other words they jumped forward in time without aging). So when spiderman came back, he still needed to start school where he left off. Is this incorrect? He was probably about 11 before the blip (not a toddler for goodness sake). Now he is about 16 like the others ans thus in the same class as them. Does the actor look a little too old? Yes but isn't that a chronic issue with teenage characters in movies?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2019 23:54:27 GMT
then he shouldn't be older looking then all of them. He should be the same real age, and was presumably just a toddler before the blip. Maybe I'm misunderstanding how the blip worked. But I thought earth basically kept happening for 5 years and then all of the blipped came back after that but still from 5 years ago (in other words they jumped forward in time without aging). So when spiderman came back, he still needed to start school where he left off. Is this incorrect? He was probably about 11 before the blip (not a toddler for goodness sake). Now he is about 16 like the others ans thus in the same class as them. Does the actor look a little too old? Yes but isn't that a chronic issue with teenage characters in movies? ummmm hes supposed to be older, I'm pretty sure that's how they explained it in the movie. |
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Jul 14, 2019 23:56:02 GMT
He was probably about 11 before the blip (not a toddler for goodness sake). Now he is about 16 like the others ans thus in the same class as them. Does the actor look a little too old? Yes but isn't that a chronic issue with teenage characters in movies? ummmm hes supposed to be older, I'm pretty sure that's how they explained it in the movie. I don't think so. Please post the quote.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2019 23:57:14 GMT
ummmm hes supposed to be older, I'm pretty sure that's how they explained it in the movie. I don't think so. Please post the quote. no bro. If you're trying to get me to go watch the movie again, you can go spit. I was actually thinking of going again but you just convinced me not to. |
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Post by Jep Gambardella on Jul 15, 2019 17:47:15 GMT
then he shouldn't be older looking then all of them. He should be the same real age, and was presumably just a toddler before the blip. Maybe I'm misunderstanding how the blip worked. But I thought earth basically kept happening for 5 years and then all of the blipped came back after that but still from 5 years ago (in other words they jumped forward in time without aging). Yes, that's how it worked. Basically, a weak cop-out. Bring everyone back 5 years later without any consequences.
Just because the movie only showed very few of the consequences, it doesn't mean that there weren't any.
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Post by Jep Gambardella on Jul 15, 2019 17:51:31 GMT
then he shouldn't be older looking then all of them. He should be the same real age, and was presumably just a toddler before the blip. Maybe I'm misunderstanding how the blip worked. But I thought earth basically kept happening for 5 years and then all of the blipped came back after that but still from 5 years ago (in other words they jumped forward in time without aging). So when spiderman came back, he still needed to start school where he left off. Is this incorrect? He was probably about 11 before the blip (not a toddler for goodness sake). Now he is about 16 like the others ans thus in the same class as them. Does the actor look a little too old? Yes but isn't that a chronic issue with teenage characters in movies?
I found the Asian guy a bit confusing at first too. He definitely looked older than the others. If he was supposed to be in the same year as Peter Parker, Ned, MJ and Flash now, it means he would have been five years younger and presumably five grades behind them before they disappeared. Do high schoolers even know anybody five grades behind them? Do they even go to the same school?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 18:06:59 GMT
He was probably about 11 before the blip (not a toddler for goodness sake). Now he is about 16 like the others ans thus in the same class as them. Does the actor look a little too old? Yes but isn't that a chronic issue with teenage characters in movies?
I found the Asian guy a bit confusing at first too. He definitely looked older than the others. If he was supposed to be in the same year as Peter Parker, Ned, MJ and Flash now, it means he would have been five years younger and presumably five grades behind them before they disappeared. Do high schoolers even know anybody five grades behind them? Do they even go to the same school?
just seems like a plothole bro. And kind of a major one. If I'm missing something, pls explain, but I'm not going and rewatching the damn movie. |
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Jul 15, 2019 18:23:20 GMT
Broken timeline.
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Post by Jep Gambardella on Jul 15, 2019 18:24:22 GMT
I found the Asian guy a bit confusing at first too. He definitely looked older than the others. If he was supposed to be in the same year as Peter Parker, Ned, MJ and Flash now, it means he would have been five years younger and presumably five grades behind them before they disappeared. Do high schoolers even know anybody five grades behind them? Do they even go to the same school?
just seems like a plothole bro. And kind of a major one. If I'm missing something, pls explain, but I'm not going and rewatching the damn movie.
Nah, I wouldn't call it a plothole, as the ages and grades are never (to the best of my recollection) explicitly stated. He could have been three years younger and now two years older than everyone else - or he could have been five yours younger and now the same age as everyone else, only appearing to be even older.
We don't know either if the Europe trip was exclusively for students in Peter's grade, or if it was open to other grades. Maybe the Asian kid was now a senior while the others were sophomores.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 18:27:21 GMT
just seems like a plothole bro. And kind of a major one. If I'm missing something, pls explain, but I'm not going and rewatching the damn movie.
Nah, I wouldn't call it a plothole, as the ages and grades are never (to the best of my recollection) explicitly stated. He could have been three years younger and now two years older than everyone else - or he could have been five yours younger and now the same age as everyone else, only appearing to be even older.
We don't know either if the Europe trip was exclusively for students in Peter's grade, or if it was open to other grades. Maybe the Asian kid was now a senior while the others were sophomores.
you're over analyzing your way into a corner, they just muffed it up, admit it. |
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Jul 15, 2019 18:54:09 GMT
He was probably about 11 before the blip (not a toddler for goodness sake). Now he is about 16 like the others ans thus in the same class as them. Does the actor look a little too old? Yes but isn't that a chronic issue with teenage characters in movies?
I found the Asian guy a bit confusing at first too. He definitely looked older than the others. If he was supposed to be in the same year as Peter Parker, Ned, MJ and Flash now, it means he would have been five years younger and presumably five grades behind them before they disappeared. Do high schoolers even know anybody five grades behind them? Do they even go to the same school?
He was probably somebodies little brother, that's how they knew him. Maybe he was 5 years behind them and just looks old for his age (like Flash Thompson in Spider-Man 2002) or maybe he was 4 years behind them and it just took a year to get the school system fully operational after half the population disappeared so he is now a year behind. Regardless there are plenty of possible scenarios so the matter does not come anywhere near the level of a plot hole.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 21:48:30 GMT
I found the Asian guy a bit confusing at first too. He definitely looked older than the others. If he was supposed to be in the same year as Peter Parker, Ned, MJ and Flash now, it means he would have been five years younger and presumably five grades behind them before they disappeared. Do high schoolers even know anybody five grades behind them? Do they even go to the same school?
He was probably somebodies little brother, that's how they knew him. Maybe he was 5 years behind them and just looks old for his age (like Flash Thompson in Spider-Man 2002) or maybe he was 4 years behind them and it just took a year to get the school system fully operational after half the population disappeared so he is now a year behind. Regardless there are plenty of possible scenarios so the matter does not come anywhere near the level of a plot hole. maybe his dad is a plastic surgeon.
maybe his mom works for vogue magazine.
mAYBE he was actually blipped but was such a douche he aged anyways.
what do all three of the above have in common? they all sound like shit that was pulled out of someone's ass. you might ask, how can shit sound like anything? it smells, it looks a certain way, but it makes no sound. nonetheless, this sounds like shit out of your ass. only someone like you could accomplish this.
and yes it's a plot hole. it couldn't be anything else.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Jul 15, 2019 22:10:57 GMT
They stated in the movie that he was a little kid before the blip. So he has aged 5 years since then. They do not say in the movie that he is any older or younger than the rest of the kids in the group on the trip. So there is no reason to assume that he is significantly older than they are. Therefore he was probably 10-12 before the blip and 15-17 now.
If they said he was 21 and didn't explain why he was still in high school that would be a problem but they didn't say he is 21. Therefore the logical assumption is that he is of high school age because he is in high school and they didn't mention any reason to think he's too old to be in high school.
I've never seen a movie about high school kids that didn't have actors who looked too old to be high school.
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