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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 17, 2019 18:21:29 GMT
In Infinity War, the Avengers failed to defeat Thanos, which resulted in the lost of over 3.5 billion human lives. Then in Endgame, the Avengers reversed the Thanos' snap, which brought back most but not all the human lives lost as a result of the Avengers' failure to defeat Thanos in Infinity War.
What do you think was the final number of human lives lost as a result of the Avengers' failutre to defeat Thanos in Infinity War? I think it may have been over 3.5 million.
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Post by scabab on Aug 17, 2019 18:40:47 GMT
You mean for how many died because of Thanos but outside of the snap?
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Post by dazz on Aug 17, 2019 19:06:43 GMT
well 3.5m is less than 0.1% of the amount of humans left alive after the snap, I don't think it's hard to believe 1 in a thousand people remaining died either due to rioting, suicide, revelations about the snapped or simply medical issues either due to vital medical research being halted, necessary surgeons being lost or even organ/blood/bone marrow donors being taken. 3.5m seems like a drop in the bucket of what the ripple effect could be.
2 for 2, dear god man you are on fire.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Aug 17, 2019 19:18:40 GMT
well 3.5m is less than 0.1% of the amount of humans left alive after the snap, I don't think it's hard to believe 1 in a thousand people remaining died either due to rioting, suicide, revelations about the snapped or simply medical issues either due to vital medical research being halted, necessary surgeons being lost or even organ/blood/bone marrow donors being taken. 3.5m seems like a drop in the bucket of what the ripple effect could be. 2 for 2, dear god man you are on fire. Thanos really didn’t think his plan through. Then again, he is The Mad Titan.
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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 17, 2019 19:39:49 GMT
You mean for how many died because of Thanos but outside of the snap? Yes. For example, passengers on planes and helicopters. If the pilot is dusted, the planes and helicopters crash and the passengers die. Those people wouldn't have been brought back by reversing the snap. Also, people in cars. There are millions of cars on the road every day. If the driver is dusted while the car is moving, the car doesn't stop. So there would be plenty of auto accidents, resulting in the deaths of passengers in cars whose driver was dusted and also drivers of other cars who weren't dusted but their cars were hit by cars whose driver was dusted. Also, pedestrians could be hit by cars whose drivers were dusted. Similar for buses, trains, and subway trains. If the drivers are dusted while the bus, train, or subway train is moving, the bus, train, or subway train doesn't stop so there would be plenty of accidents.
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Post by dazz on Aug 17, 2019 19:44:14 GMT
well 3.5m is less than 0.1% of the amount of humans left alive after the snap, I don't think it's hard to believe 1 in a thousand people remaining died either due to rioting, suicide, revelations about the snapped or simply medical issues either due to vital medical research being halted, necessary surgeons being lost or even organ/blood/bone marrow donors being taken. 3.5m seems like a drop in the bucket of what the ripple effect could be. 2 for 2, dear god man you are on fire. Thanos really didn’t think his plan through. Then again, he is The Mad Titan. Well he wiped out half of all life, including the people he already culled, which throws off the universal balance, some civilisations were reduced by 75% not 50% like he said, the Asgardians got culled twice in the span of 2 days.
And by killing half of all life means killing half the animals in every ecosystem, but not the plant life, this throws nature of balance, the man was a fucking idiot to be honest with you.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Aug 17, 2019 20:09:52 GMT
Thanos really didn’t think his plan through. Then again, he is The Mad Titan. Well he wiped out half of all life, including the people he already culled, which throws off the universal balance, some civilisations were reduced by 75% not 50% like he said, the Asgardians got culled twice in the span of 2 days.
And by killing half of all life means killing half the animals in every ecosystem, but not the plant life, this throws nature of balance, the man was a fucking idiot to be honest with you.
I remember last year when people asked the question of why Thanos couldn’t just increase the number of resources in the universe, and a common argument I heard was that doing so would be beyond the power of the Infinity Stones. Of course, considering that Thanos straight up expected to create an entire universe from scratch in EG, that kind of puts the hole in the argument that increasing the number of resources wasn’t an option. Don't get me wrong. I’m not saying that Thanos having a stupid plan is a strike against the films, since he is the bad guy, and it’s obvious that his mental state isn’t very stable. I just think it makes the whole “Thanos did nothing wrong” meme seem even funnier.
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Post by scabab on Aug 17, 2019 20:14:16 GMT
Yes. For example, passengers on planes and helicopters. If the pilot is dusted, the planes and helicopters crash and the passengers die. Those people wouldn't have been brought back by reversing the snap. Also, people in cars. There are millions of cars on the road every day. If the driver is dusted while the car is moving, the car doesn't stop. So there would be plenty of auto accidents, resulting in the deaths of passengers in cars whose driver was dusted and also drivers of other cars who weren't dusted but their cars were hit by cars whose driver was dusted. Also, pedestrians could be hit by cars whose drivers were dusted. Similar for buses, trains, and subway trains. If the drivers are dusted while the bus, train, or subway train is moving, the bus, train, or subway train doesn't stop so there would be plenty of accidents. Oh I see what you mean, I couldn't recall any scenes where innocents were just killed because of Thanos and his minions but yeah I suppose a lot could have died due to accidents. Google says there's about 1.5 million people in the air at any one time. Doesn't mean they'd all die though because planes still have co-pilots. So it'd need both the pilot and co-pilot to die. The majority I imagine would come from car incidents. If someone was on the freeway and the driver died then the people at the back wouldn't stand much of a chance. I hope the movies do go into this stuff and don't gloss it over. They'll likely come up with something from it.
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Post by Skaathar on Aug 17, 2019 20:19:53 GMT
Your title is misleading. It has very little relevance to what you're actually asking.
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Post by politicidal on Aug 18, 2019 17:39:53 GMT
Your title is misleading. It has very little relevance to what you're actually asking. ThatsAShocker.
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Post by damngumby on Aug 18, 2019 18:56:58 GMT
Well, since 55 million people normally die each year, the snap reduced that number by 22.5 million.
22.5 x 5 years = 112.5 million.
So, after the snap was reversed, there were 112.5 million people still alive who wouldn't have been if the snap had never occurred ... which is way more than those killed in accidents at the moment of the snap.
Even in failure, the Avengers save lives!
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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 19, 2019 23:43:05 GMT
Well, since 55 million people normally die each year, the snap reduced that number by 22.5 million. 22.5 x 5 years = 112.5 million. So, after the snap was reversed, there were 112.5 million people still alive who wouldn't have been if the snap had never occurred ... which is way more than those killed in accidents at the moment of the snap. Even in failure, the Avengers save lives! WRONG AGAIN! The key phrase is "55 million people NORMALLY die each year". The snap wasn't a NORMAL occurrence. It would be like saying NORMALLY X number of people commit suicide every day. But on 1 day in 1978, over 900 peiple committed suicide in Jonestown. Jonestown was not a NORMAL occurrence so it can't be categorized with NORMAL stats. Likewise, the snap wasn't NORMAL so the snap can't be categorized with NORMAL stats. The snap resulted in many plane, helicopter, car, bus, train, and subway accidents that wouldn't have occurred if not for the snap. So the number of people who were killed as a result of the snap and weren't resurrected is most likely much more than 55 million.
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Post by poutinep on Aug 20, 2019 0:13:14 GMT
Well, since 55 million people normally die each year, the snap reduced that number by 22.5 million. 22.5 x 5 years = 112.5 million. So, after the snap was reversed, there were 112.5 million people still alive who wouldn't have been if the snap had never occurred ... which is way more than those killed in accidents at the moment of the snap. Even in failure, the Avengers save lives! WRONG AGAIN! The key phrase is "55 million people NORMALLY die each year". The snap wasn't a NORMAL occurrence. It would be like saying NORMALLY X number of people commit suicide every day. But on 1 day in 1978, over 900 peiple committed suicide in Jonestown. Jonestown was not a NORMAL occurrence so it can't be categorized with NORMAL stats. Likewise, the snap wasn't NORMAL so the snap can't be categorized with NORMAL stats. The snap resulted in many plane, helicopter, car, bus, train, and subway accidents that wouldn't have occurred if not for the snap. So the number of people who were killed as a result of the snap and weren't resurrected is most likely much more than 55 million.
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Post by politicidal on Aug 20, 2019 3:52:37 GMT
This is as silly as complaining about the ending from Man of Steel as the casualties are as equally fictitious.
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Post by dazz on Aug 20, 2019 21:24:26 GMT
Well, since 55 million people normally die each year, the snap reduced that number by 22.5 million. 22.5 x 5 years = 112.5 million. So, after the snap was reversed, there were 112.5 million people still alive who wouldn't have been if the snap had never occurred ... which is way more than those killed in accidents at the moment of the snap. Even in failure, the Avengers save lives! WRONG AGAIN! The key phrase is "55 million people NORMALLY die each year". The snap wasn't a NORMAL occurrence. It would be like saying NORMALLY X number of people commit suicide every day. But on 1 day in 1978, over 900 peiple committed suicide in Jonestown. Jonestown was not a NORMAL occurrence so it can't be categorized with NORMAL stats. Likewise, the snap wasn't NORMAL so the snap can't be categorized with NORMAL stats. The snap resulted in many plane, helicopter, car, bus, train, and subway accidents that wouldn't have occurred if not for the snap. So the number of people who were killed as a result of the snap and weren't resurrected is most likely much more than 55 million. You both look like idiots, reducing the number of deaths per year due to halving the population isn't saving lives, it changes the statistics, which doesn't even change the important number such as the death rate, also half of 55 is 27.5, 22.5 doubled is 45, 27.5 x 5 = 137.5...anyway see if 2 people die typically a year in a town of 200 they have a death rate of 1:100, in a town of 500 if 5 die a year they have a death rate of 1:100 also so a 27.5m deaths on a planet of 3.5m is the exact same as the death rate of 55m on a planet of 7 billion, doesn't save lives, what saves lives is when the death rate changes more specifically when that smaller number remains the same but the larger number becomes bigger the gap between the two numbers getting greater, all reducing the number of deaths does is reduce the amount of funerals, cremations, burials, coffins and services nothing more.
Also DC-Fan are you too dumb to counter his argument by simply pointing out well ok then the estimated deaths of the 5 years prior to Thanos coming to earth was 275m people, but the death toll in the 5 years since Thanos came to earth even if you half the amount of people who on average die to 27.5m a year that's 137.5m + 3.5+ billion so 3.637.5m+ dead in those 5 years, and it would take 25.5 years at that reduced annual average before the balance between those lost and the reduced death count per year even began to get close to balancing out.
As I said you both look like idiots idiots, atleast Brady I assume is purposely doing so just to mock you Dc-Fan, you my man however are as dumb as ever.
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Post by damngumby on Aug 21, 2019 0:48:45 GMT
Well, since 55 million people normally die each year, the snap reduced that number by 22.5 million. 22.5 x 5 years = 112.5 million. So, after the snap was reversed, there were 112.5 million people still alive who wouldn't have been if the snap had never occurred ... which is way more than those killed in accidents at the moment of the snap. Even in failure, the Avengers save lives! WRONG AGAIN! The key phrase is "55 million people NORMALLY die each year". The snap wasn't a NORMAL occurrence. It would be like saying NORMALLY X number of people commit suicide every day. But on 1 day in 1978, over 900 peiple committed suicide in Jonestown. Jonestown was not a NORMAL occurrence so it can't be categorized with NORMAL stats. Likewise, the snap wasn't NORMAL so the snap can't be categorized with NORMAL stats. The snap resulted in many plane, helicopter, car, bus, train, and subway accidents that wouldn't have occurred if not for the snap. So the number of people who were killed as a result of the snap and weren't resurrected is most likely much more than 55 million. Gee ... I didn't think it was all that hard to understand, cupcake. Out of a world population of 7.5 billion people, approximately 55 million normally die each year ... old age, accidents, illness ... etc. You cut the population in half and you also cut in half the number of people who normally die each year. That's 27.5 million (number corrected from 22.5). After five years, the population disintegrated by the snap is resurrected. 137.5 million people who would have been dead, are now alive. Lives saved! Your own poll puts the absolute maximum number of snap accidents at just over 3.5 million. A drop in the bucket compared to 137.5 million. ... are you still confused?
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Post by DC-Fan on Aug 21, 2019 1:17:38 GMT
WRONG AGAIN! The key phrase is "55 million people NORMALLY die each year". The snap wasn't a NORMAL occurrence. It would be like saying NORMALLY X number of people commit suicide every day. But on 1 day in 1978, over 900 peiple committed suicide in Jonestown. Jonestown was not a NORMAL occurrence so it can't be categorized with NORMAL stats. Likewise, the snap wasn't NORMAL so the snap can't be categorized with NORMAL stats. The snap resulted in many plane, helicopter, car, bus, train, and subway accidents that wouldn't have occurred if not for the snap. So the number of people who were killed as a result of the snap and weren't resurrected is most likely much more than 55 million. Gee ... I didn't think it was all that hard to understand, cupcake. Out of a world population of 7.5 billion people, approximately 55 million normally die each year ... old age, accidents, illness ... etc. You cut the population in half and you also cut in half the number of people who normally die each year. That's 27.5 million (number corrected from 22.5). After five years, the population disintegrated by the snap is resurrected. 137.5 million people who would have been dead, are now alive. Lives saved! Your own poll puts the absolute maximum number of snap accidents at just over 3.5 million. A drop in the bucket compared to 137.5 million. ... are you still confused? WOW! You've just proved that you're really dumb. In what workd does "over 3.5 million" mean "absolute maximum of 3.5 million"? "Over 3.5 million" means "MINIMUM of 3.5 million". Do you not understand the difference between maximum and minimum. Of course you don't. You still think that the laws of physics behave differently on opposite sides of a football field! LOL!
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Post by damngumby on Aug 21, 2019 1:34:56 GMT
Gee ... I didn't think it was all that hard to understand, cupcake. Out of a world population of 7.5 billion people, approximately 55 million normally die each year ... old age, accidents, illness ... etc. You cut the population in half and you also cut in half the number of people who normally die each year. That's 27.5 million (number corrected from 22.5). After five years, the population disintegrated by the snap is resurrected. 137.5 million people who would have been dead, are now alive. Lives saved! Your own poll puts the absolute maximum number of snap accidents at just over 3.5 million. A drop in the bucket compared to 137.5 million. ... are you still confused? WOW! You've just proved that you're really dumb. In what workd does "over 3.5 million" mean "absolute maximum of 3.5 million"? "Over 3.5 million" means "MINIMUM of 3.5 million". Do you not understand the difference between maximum and minimum. Of course you don't. You still think that the laws of physics behave differently on opposite sides of a football field! LOL! Read it again, dipshit. What was said was, "Absolute maximum of just over 3.5 million." No wonder you get everything wrong. You can't read!
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Post by Power Ranger on Sept 4, 2019 17:47:35 GMT
Gee ... I didn't think it was all that hard to understand, cupcake. Out of a world population of 7.5 billion people, approximately 55 million normally die each year ... old age, accidents, illness ... etc. You cut the population in half and you also cut in half the number of people who normally die each year. That's 27.5 million (number corrected from 22.5). After five years, the population disintegrated by the snap is resurrected. 137.5 million people who would have been dead, are now alive. Lives saved! Your own poll puts the absolute maximum number of snap accidents at just over 3.5 million. A drop in the bucket compared to 137.5 million. ... are you still confused? WOW! You've just proved that you're really dumb. In what workd does "over 3.5 million" mean "absolute maximum of 3.5 million"? "Over 3.5 million" means "MINIMUM of 3.5 million". Do you not understand the difference between maximum and minimum. Of course you don't. You still think that the laws of physics behave differently on opposite sides of a football field! LOL! LOL
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