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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 13, 2020 6:13:58 GMT
That was creepy. Hopefully I'm not misunderstanding your question. I don't know that it's rigged, but if it is, it's I think it's a mistake to think the police could not possibly be in on it. Police cooperation can be purchased like any other service. Of course I agree with you that police can be bought. But I personally think that police was not in it. There must be some scientific reason why that thing kept in motion. The reason was simply not captured on camera. But yeah a bit creepy. Well, I would agree with you that everything has a scientific reason behind it, but when it's a science that conventional science cannot fathom, it's called supernatural. There's a place in Florida called Spook Hill where people stop their cars and watch them roll up the hill instead of down. I never went there but I always wanted to. No one could explain it scientifically, so I say it could be supernatural, or it could be natural without a proven cause. I don't see how there can be an effect without a cause, even if we can't say what the cause is, we know there must be a cause. I feel the same about the ghostly exercise machine in the video. Until I know it was faked, I'm going to leave it open.
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Post by Aj_June on Jun 13, 2020 6:29:20 GMT
Of course I agree with you that police can be bought. But I personally think that police was not in it. There must be some scientific reason why that thing kept in motion. The reason was simply not captured on camera. But yeah a bit creepy. Well, I would agree with you that everything has a scientific reason behind it, but when it's a science that conventional science cannot fathom, it's called supernatural. There's a place in Florida called Spook Hill where people stop their cars and watch them roll up the hill instead of down. I never went there but I always wanted to. No one could explain it scientifically, so I say it could be supernatural, or it could be natural without a proven cause. I don't see how there can be an effect without a cause, even if we can't say what the cause is, we know there must be a cause. I feel the same about the ghostly exercise machine in the video. Until I know it was faked, I'm going to leave it open. I like going to spooky places that have been claimed to be haunted. Just that I do not get a lot of opportunity of doing so.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 13, 2020 6:39:21 GMT
Well, I would agree with you that everything has a scientific reason behind it, but when it's a science that conventional science cannot fathom, it's called supernatural. There's a place in Florida called Spook Hill where people stop their cars and watch them roll up the hill instead of down. I never went there but I always wanted to. No one could explain it scientifically, so I say it could be supernatural, or it could be natural without a proven cause. I don't see how there can be an effect without a cause, even if we can't say what the cause is, we know there must be a cause. I feel the same about the ghostly exercise machine in the video. Until I know it was faked, I'm going to leave it open. I like going to spooky places that have been claimed to be haunted. Just that I do not get a lot of opportunity of doing so. I thought you didn't believe in all that stuff. Could visiting places with reputations for being haunted be a reaffirmation of non-belief for you? I'm sure of the people who do believe in spirit entities some are so determined to experience something that they can talk themselves into a ghostly explanation when it might not be the case.
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Post by Aj_June on Jun 13, 2020 6:46:10 GMT
I like going to spooky places that have been claimed to be haunted. Just that I do not get a lot of opportunity of doing so. I thought you didn't believe in all that stuff. Could visiting places with reputations for being haunted be a reaffirmation of non-belief for you? I'm sure of the people who do believe in spirit entities some are so determined to experience something that they can talk themselves into a ghostly explanation when it might not be the case. I absolutely and totally do not believe in anything supernatural. I do not believe in ghost, god, soul, karma etc etc. It's just that the subject of supernatural is very interesting. I believe psychological issues make people see ghosts. Sometimes the whole community can get possessed because of certain reasons. I find the stories of ghost and witches extremely interesting to read. Have you ever read about Loudun possessions? Read more here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudun_possessions
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 13, 2020 6:48:46 GMT
I thought you didn't believe in all that stuff. Could visiting places with reputations for being haunted be a reaffirmation of non-belief for you? I'm sure of the people who do believe in spirit entities some are so determined to experience something that they can talk themselves into a ghostly explanation when it might not be the case. I absolutely and totally do not believe in anything supernatural. I do not believe in ghost, god, soul, karma etc etc. It's just that the subject of supernatural is very interesting. I believe psychological issues make people see ghosts. Sometimes the whole community can get possessed because of certain reasons. I find the stories of ghost and witches extremely interesting to read. Have you ever read about Loudun possessions? Read more here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudun_possessionsI saw the Ken Russell film starring Oliver Reed and Vanessa Redgrave, but I never did any reading on the actual events. Thanks. I'll check out the link.
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Post by Arlon10 on Jun 13, 2020 12:04:16 GMT
The most important thing to realize about ouija boards is that they give people an opportunity to say things they do not have to admit they said. They can't bring themselves to tell someone he has bad breath, but they can get a ouija board to tell him. It is much the same thing on these virtually anonymous computer discussion boards. There are better means to access the subconscious, for example Rorschach tests. It is difficult for an individual to access his own subconscious. One way is to select a series of about five to ten images and deliberately focus on each one in order. It will be necessary to repeat the list several times in succession. If an image occurs that is not on the list it might be from the subconscious, but the method is not very dependable.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jun 13, 2020 14:40:06 GMT
Well I am a Catholic, so I am not exactly the type of person the OP wants a answer from, but ill make a quick statement... it's pretty clear cut they should be avoided as if anything happens it will be of hell and that's obviously a bad thing. there is no 'safe' way to use them as since if anything happens it's tied to hell, no possible good can come from it. it's like saying there is good witches and bad witches, but none of that matters as all witch type of stuff is tied to the occult which is bad. One wonders what is so special about Ouija Boards that God (or that which people think is a god) would be unable, or unwilling, to speak to humans through them. Isiah 55: 6 Seek the LORD while he may be found; call on him while he is near.
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Post by mystery on Jun 13, 2020 16:19:03 GMT
I'm a non-christian, but my only objection to ouija boards is that most people just make it say whatever they want to hear (or what they fear).
I have a ouija board, but I don't do it the normal way. I close my eyes and try to clear my mind completely, and then I just trail my fingers across the board until I feel my fingertips tingle. I open my eyes and see what letter it is, and then close my eyes and continue. I've never had a bad experience from it. The messages are usually sweet and thoughtful, and sometimes I even get jokes. I haven't used it in years, though. It's just really tedious and takes a lot of concentration, and I don't really enjoy it. It's too much work.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Jun 14, 2020 4:18:16 GMT
Quija boards just work on the ideomotor effect, nothing supernatural about them. It's also ridiculously easy to test this: just ask the board something neither of you know and you won't ever get a correct answer.
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