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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Sept 9, 2019 11:07:43 GMT
As general manager of the Boston Red Sox. One year after winning 108 games and waltzing to the title. www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/27573900/red-sox-fire-dombrowski-one-season-titleThe 2018 Red Sox were the greatest team I ever seen (I'd stack them against the 1998 Yankees), but he's signed some bonehead contracts (Sale, Eovaldi) and gutted the farm system. The ghastly money owed to the underachieving starting rotation and the sad state of the farm has hamstrung the organization. He didn't have to extend Sale's contact but threw money at him, even with concerns about his diminishing velocity. Eovaldi did pitch well last year but he cannot stay healthy and he overpaid. The team is dangerously close to going into "super luxury tax" mode, which will cost them draft picks, picks they cannot lose. And they will have to find a bushel of money to give to Mookie Betts. As DD knows, baseball is ruled by the dictum "What have you done for me lately". |
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Sept 9, 2019 12:14:13 GMT
Seems a little extreme. I don't disagree with anything you said, but at the end of the day he did build a winner here. Nothing has gone right for the Sox this year and it isn't like they're in last place. I would've given him one more year, but I'm not crying for the guy.
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Sept 9, 2019 12:20:07 GMT
As general manager of the Boston Red Sox. One year after winning 108 games and waltzing to the title. www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/27573900/red-sox-fire-dombrowski-one-season-titleThe 2018 Red Sox were the greatest team I ever seen (I'd stack them against the 1998 Yankees), but he's signed some bonehead contracts (Sale, Eovaldi) and gutted the farm system. The ghastly money owed to the underachieving starting rotation and the sad state of the farm has hamstrung the organization. He didn't have to extend Sale's contact but threw money at him, even with concerns about his diminishing velocity. Eovaldi did pitch well last year but he cannot stay healthy and he overpaid. The team is dangerously close to going into "super luxury tax" mode, which will cost them draft picks, picks they cannot lose. And they will have to find a bushel of money to give to Mookie Betts. As DD knows, baseball is ruled by the dictum "What have you done for me lately". time to bring back.... 
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Sept 9, 2019 12:38:57 GMT
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Sept 9, 2019 16:16:50 GMT
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Post by Beardy McJewsenheimer ESQ on Sept 9, 2019 16:34:03 GMT
I think Dombrowski is one of the best GM's in baseball, maybe ever. I don't think it's fair to give him grief for Sale. He was great before this year, CY Young quality. I always think it's a little unfair to blame a GM when a consistently great player just goes off a cliff all of a sudden. How do you predict that? There's a big difference between that sort of bad contract and something like Carlos Silva getting a shit load of money after a season where he had an ERA of like 4.5. Though Sale is slated to get like 30 mill a year the next 5 years. But that's the market for Elite pitchers. And he might bounce back, this could just be bad year. He's been better since a horrible start.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Sept 9, 2019 16:38:20 GMT
I think Dombrowski is one of the best GM's in baseball, maybe ever. I don't think it's fair to give him grief for Sale. He was great before this year, CY Young quality. I always think it's a little unfair to blame a GM when a consistently great player just goes off a cliff all of a sudden. How do you predict that? There's a big difference between that sort of bad contract and something like Carlos Silva getting a shit load of money after a season where he had an ERA of like 4.5. Though Sale is slated to get like 30 mill a year the next 5 years. But that's the market for Elite pitchers. And he might bounce back, this could just be bad year. He's been better since a horrible start. The Sale thing didn't come out of nowhere, though. He had issues staying healthy last year, too. Still, it's dumb for ownership to complain about that contract, it's not like Dombrowski made that deal without their approval. In the end I don't think it had as much to do with any one move as it did with their philosophy going forward. Dombrowski's contract is up and they weren't going to extend him so they just cut him loose.
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Post by millar70 on Sept 9, 2019 17:14:16 GMT
The Sox should extend their search to the IMDb sports board, there seems to be quite a few people here who feel like they could be fantastic general managers of sports teams.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Sept 9, 2019 18:06:13 GMT
I've seen two rumors on other forums, forums that usually have good rumors (one that predicted this three weeks ago)
1. This is about Mookie Betts. Betts has said repeatedly that he loves Boston but will not sign an extension and will go FA in 2020. Some say that he and DD didn't get along. It would be the biggest disaster since the sale of George H. Ruth if he walks. He's looked on as a successor to Williams, Yaz, Rice. But if he doesn't want to sign, they could get a shitload and a half for him. And keep him away from NY, LA or Houston.
2. The return of Theo Epstein. Been reading a lot that Theo has worn out his welcome in Chicago. The prodigal son returns?
Could all be BS. Its oddd that they wouldn't let him finish out the season.
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Sept 9, 2019 18:09:28 GMT
I think Dombrowski is one of the best GM's in baseball, maybe ever. I don't think it's fair to give him grief for Sale. He was great before this year, CY Young quality. I always think it's a little unfair to blame a GM when a consistently great player just goes off a cliff all of a sudden. How do you predict that? There's a big difference between that sort of bad contract and something like Carlos Silva getting a shit load of money after a season where he had an ERA of like 4.5. Though Sale is slated to get like 30 mill a year the next 5 years. But that's the market for Elite pitchers. And he might bounce back, this could just be bad year. He's been better since a horrible start. and just how can you fire someone that acquired ca$hner? 
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Sept 9, 2019 18:10:58 GMT
I've seen two rumors on other forums, forums that usually have good rumors (one that predicted this three weeks ago) 1. This is about Mookie Betts. Betts has said repeatedly that he loves Boston but will not sign an extension and will go FA in 2020. Some say that he and DD didn't get along. It would be the biggest disaster since the sale of George H. Ruth if he walks. He's looked on as a successor to Williams, Yaz, Rice. But if he doesn't want to sign, they could get a shitload and a half for him. And keep him away from NY, LA or Houston. 2. The return of Theo Epstein. Been reading a lot that Theo has worn out his welcome in Chicago. The prodigal son returns? Could all be BS. Its oddd that they wouldn't let him finish out the season. 1- betts to b'more? chris davis got free crab cakes for life---betts can't pass up a similar offer. 2- theo is just a front man---chicago was built on a farm system long before he got there.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2019 23:35:17 GMT
Just shows that it doesn't matter how recently they bring the Red Sox a World Series they'll find a reason to toss you out the door. Same thing happened to manager John Farrell I believe. Won a World Series and then boom he was gone not long after.
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Sept 10, 2019 0:19:41 GMT
Just shows that it doesn't matter how recently they bring the Red Sox a World Series they'll find a reason to toss you out the door. Same thing happened to manager John Farrell I believe. Won a World Series and then boom he was gone not long after. Farrell won with basically the team that Terry Francona put together. And the Sox were bound to bounce back after the one year circus that was Bobby Valentine. And the rest of his teams underachieved (yes, 93 win teams can be underachievers)
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Post by Geddy on Sept 10, 2019 0:22:35 GMT
All I can say is wow. Wish my Jays would hire him ASAP .
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Sept 12, 2019 1:08:32 GMT
Just shows that it doesn't matter how recently they bring the Red Sox a World Series they'll find a reason to toss you out the door. Same thing happened to manager John Farrell I believe. Won a World Series and then boom he was gone not long after. Farrell won with basically the team that Terry Francona put together. And the Sox were bound to bounce back after the one year circus that was Bobby Valentine. And the rest of his teams underachieved (yes, 93 win teams can be underachievers) jerry remy should get the job.
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