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Post by lordquesterjones on Oct 12, 2019 16:14:42 GMT
Because I'm an ignorant hypocritical cunt who's scared of his own shadow and needs to feel companionship with like minded people because I'm also so fucking weak and pathetic!
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Post by Huxley on Oct 12, 2019 17:39:06 GMT
I went to Catholic Church and School. Once I got out on my own I was like you. I turned my back on God. Something happened later in my life that changed me. I will not share it. I just pray that you're as smart as you think you are. Ok but to answer your original question, the “something happened to me” stories aren’t verifiable evidence of a god so we don’t believe them. I’m not saying I’m smarter. I’m saying they aren’t believable stories. The same with prayer. There is no demonstrable study that shows it has any effect so we don’t believe it. Man unlike any other animal is incurably religious. It's built into the DNA. If you have no desire to believe in God. There could be several things causing it. You ignore God's voice. or your a human misfit or you have no soul. When God created Adam and Eve there were people already on the earth. They were people that had no soul. Adam and Eve did.
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Post by Huxley on Oct 12, 2019 17:45:04 GMT
Because I'm an ignorant hypocritical cunt who's scared of his own shadow and needs to feel companionship with like minded people because I'm also so fucking weak and pathetic! You're starting to get on the right tract. Have you ever taken Bible study? You may become interested. It's my one passion to know all about God and his word.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Oct 12, 2019 17:48:55 GMT
Ok but to answer your original question, the “something happened to me” stories aren’t verifiable evidence of a god so we don’t believe them. I’m not saying I’m smarter. I’m saying they aren’t believable stories. The same with prayer. There is no demonstrable study that shows it has any effect so we don’t believe it. Man unlike any other animal is incurably religious. It's built into the DNA. If you have no desire to believe in God. There could be several things causing it. You ignore God's voice. or your a human misfit or you have no soul. When God created Adam and Eve there were people already on the earth. They were people that had no soul. Adam and Eve did. What you just wrote is incredibly condescending. I do not believe in your god. Just accept that. I am not incurably religious, It has nothing to do with a lack of desire, and nothing happened to make me not believe other than no believer has ever produced convincing evidence. I do not believe in Adam and Eve, I don’t believe in souls, and until somebody presents viable evidence that things things exist, I don’t see any reason for anybody to think they do. But don’t tell somebody something happened to them to make them not believe. Not only is it insanely insulting but it does not add one ounce of credibility to your religion.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Oct 12, 2019 17:49:34 GMT
Because I'm an ignorant hypocritical cunt who's scared of his own shadow and needs to feel companionship with like minded people because I'm also so fucking weak and pathetic! You're starting to get on the right tract. Have you ever taken Bible study? You may become interested. It's my one passion to know all about God and his word. ”the right track” come on
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Post by Huxley on Oct 12, 2019 17:56:36 GMT
Man unlike any other animal is incurably religious. It's built into the DNA. If you have no desire to believe in God. There could be several things causing it. You ignore God's voice. or your a human misfit or you have no soul. When God created Adam and Eve there were people already on the earth. They were people that had no soul. Adam and Eve did. What you just wrote is incredibly condescending. I do not believe in your god. Just accept that. I am not incurably religious, It has nothing to do with a lack of desire, and nothing happened to make me not believe other than no believer has ever produced convincing evidence. I do not believe in Adam and Eve, I don’t believe in souls, and until somebody presents viable evidence that things things exist, I don’t see any reason for anybody to think they do. But don’t tell somebody something happened to them to make them not believe. Not only is it insanely insulting but it does not add one ounce of credibility to your religion. That's your opinion of course. Remember these words. You are probably young, healthy and strong. All that may change some day, if it does the world takes on a new meaning. A drowning man will reach for a straw. You may be that man.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Oct 12, 2019 18:18:14 GMT
What you just wrote is incredibly condescending. I do not believe in your god. Just accept that. I am not incurably religious, It has nothing to do with a lack of desire, and nothing happened to make me not believe other than no believer has ever produced convincing evidence. I do not believe in Adam and Eve, I don’t believe in souls, and until somebody presents viable evidence that things things exist, I don’t see any reason for anybody to think they do. But don’t tell somebody something happened to them to make them not believe. Not only is it insanely insulting but it does not add one ounce of credibility to your religion. That's your opinion of course. Remember these words. You are probably young, healthy and strong. All that may change some day, if it does the world takes on a new meaning. A drowning man will reach for a straw. You may be that man. That means absolutely nothing. Nothing about drowning or being poor or anything else bad means a magic space wizard exists. You’re just describing people in desperate situations making irrational appeals.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2019 18:37:34 GMT
Chuck Norris.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2019 19:00:53 GMT
Ok but to answer your original question, the “something happened to me” stories aren’t verifiable evidence of a god so we don’t believe them. I’m not saying I’m smarter. I’m saying they aren’t believable stories. The same with prayer. There is no demonstrable study that shows it has any effect so we don’t believe it. Man unlike any other animal is incurably religious. It's built into the DNA. If you have no desire to believe in God. There could be several things causing it. You ignore God's voice. or your a human misfit or you have no soul. When God created Adam and Eve there were people already on the earth. They were people that had no soul. Adam and Eve did. Or you’re just the kind of person who isn’t up for believing fairytales.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Oct 12, 2019 19:22:00 GMT
Ok but to answer your original question, the “something happened to me” stories aren’t verifiable evidence of a god so we don’t believe them. I’m not saying I’m smarter. I’m saying they aren’t believable stories. The same with prayer. There is no demonstrable study that shows it has any effect so we don’t believe it. Man unlike any other animal is incurably religious. It's built into the DNA. If you have no desire to believe in God. There could be several things causing it. You ignore God's voice. or your a human misfit or you have no soul. When God created Adam and Eve there were people already on the earth. They were people that had no soul. Adam and Eve did. "Man unlike any other animal is incurably religious." Inccurably? Is that why Christianity is dying off in the western world? As for being the only animal that practices religion, that's only because we have the imagination to come up with mythology to explain the mysteries of the universe. That says nothing about the actual validity of faith itself. "It's built into the DNA." It really isn't. Imagine if you lived in a world where people weren't indoctrinaed into faith and religion was largely non existant, do you honestly think you would "instinctually" turn to religion? "There could be several things causing it." Generally the lack of evidence. "You ignore God's voice." If you seriously hear "God's voice" in your head, I would strongly recommend seeing a psychiatrist.
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Post by Huxley on Oct 12, 2019 20:07:15 GMT
Man unlike any other animal is incurably religious. It's built into the DNA. If you have no desire to believe in God. There could be several things causing it. You ignore God's voice. or your a human misfit or you have no soul. When God created Adam and Eve there were people already on the earth. They were people that had no soul. Adam and Eve did. "Man unlike any other animal is incurably religious." Inccurably? Is that why Christianity is dying off in the western world? As for being the only animal that practices religion, that's only because we have the imagination to come up with mythology to explain the mysteries of the universe. That says nothing about the actual validity of faith itself. "It's built into the DNA." It really isn't. Imagine if you lived in a world where people weren't indoctrinaed into faith and religion was largely non existant, do you honestly think you would "instinctually" turn to religion? "There could be several things causing it." Generally the lack of evidence. "You ignore God's voice." If you seriously hear "God's voice" in your head, I would strongly recommend seeing a psychiatrist. You cannot hears voices in your head?
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Post by Huxley on Oct 12, 2019 20:12:22 GMT
I've always heard voices in my head. Everyone should. It's called your conscience.
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Post by shadrack on Oct 12, 2019 20:25:09 GMT
Why don't you believe in God? I've heard atheist refer to God as Sky-daddy. When you really have your back to the wall, who do you call on? Your own ability? It's limited, very limited. Who? These are two very different questions, but I'll give it a go. I don't believe in "God" (I assume you mean Yahweh) for the same reason no one believes in Zeus, Anubis, or Thor. If I'm truly in a bad situation with no one to call on, I don't call on anyone. Calling on God in a bad situation makes some people feel better, which is fine, but if you don't believe in God, you might as well recite the opening paragraph of The Great Gatsby for all the effect it's going to have .
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Post by The Lost One on Oct 12, 2019 20:33:32 GMT
I would just point out that being an atheist is not about being convinced by an argument really, it’s just about the recognition that if you cannot use evidence of any kind to demonstrate that a claim is true or even just possible, then accepting that claim as true is an irrational position to take. So in the case of god, can anybody demonstrate that such a thing exists? I think most everybody, even those who believe it would agree they nobody has demonstrated that. And if you agree that nobody has demonstrated that, then I respectfully submit that you are admitting that there is no valid reason to believe it. But that's an argument, isn't it? It's basically: Premise 1: We should only believe in things that have been demonstrated Premise 2: God has not been demonstrated Conclusion: Therefore we should not believe in God It seems though that many find these premises uncontroversial while others argue against one, other or both. And I think that's because of differences in inclination rather than one side not getting the argument or the other side not seeing its flaws.
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Post by theauxphou on Oct 12, 2019 20:47:18 GMT
Simple reason: there is no evidence. In fact, none has ever been presented in the entire history of mankind. When you produce it I’ll change my mind. Until then, I’ll consider it untrue.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Oct 12, 2019 21:38:24 GMT
I've always heard voices in my head. Everyone should. It's called your conscience. Is it telling you to burn stuff?
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Post by Huxley on Oct 12, 2019 22:51:25 GMT
Man unlike any other animal is incurably religious. It's built into the DNA. If you have no desire to believe in God. There could be several things causing it. You ignore God's voice. or your a human misfit or you have no soul. When God created Adam and Eve there were people already on the earth. They were people that had no soul. Adam and Eve did. Now then, you would also have to provide evidence of what a soul is. Better luck with that, since you can't prove your sky daddy. A person is body, soul and spirit. the body is of course your natural human body, your soul is the intellectual qualities of the entire man. The Spirit is the God like part of you that will live forever. He is the spirit man.
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Post by Huxley on Oct 12, 2019 22:55:56 GMT
Why don't you believe in God? I've heard atheist refer to God as Sky-daddy. When you really have your back to the wall, who do you call on? Your own ability? It's limited, very limited. Who? These are two very different questions, but I'll give it a go. I don't believe in "God" (I assume you mean Yahweh) for the same reason no one believes in Zeus, Anubis, or Thor. If I'm truly in a bad situation with no one to call on, I don't call on anyone. Calling on God in a bad situation makes some people feel better, which is fine, but if you don't believe in God, you might as well recite the opening paragraph of The Great Gatsby for all the effect it's going to have . I'll return shortly. Shad did you lose a tooth? A demon with a tooth missing is not very intimidating. Later guys.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2019 0:03:11 GMT
I think this video explains what atheists think. I think I've seen that before, it's funny. I was raised in a Catholic family. Went to Catholic schools and church to of course. Suffered abuse at the hands of the nuns and especially one priest. To call yourself Father is an insult to yourself. I really have this urge to chastise myself.
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Post by mslo79 on Oct 13, 2019 1:19:42 GMT
Simple reason: there is no evidence. In fact, none has ever been presented in the entire history of mankind. When you produce it I’ll change my mind. Until then, I’ll consider it untrue.
But there is plausible evidence for those who can see...
-Eucharistic Miracles
-Our Lady of Gaudalupe image from the year 1531 -Our Lady of Las Lajas (image on a rock from the year 1754) -Our Lady of Fatima (the miracle of the sun from Oct 13th 1917) etc
so those who say there is no evidence in the slightest for God's (i.e. The Holy Trinity (Father/Son(Jesus Christ)/Holy Spirit)) existence are wrong
but like I always say it seems to boil down to the following quote for many...
"To one who has faith, no explanation is necessary. To one without faith, no explanation is possible." - St. Thomas Aquinas
or like one from the bible...
"Then Abraham said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the prophets, they will not be persuaded even if someone rises from the dead.’" - Luke 16:31
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