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Post by thenolan on Nov 17, 2019 6:22:11 GMT
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Post by hobowar on Nov 17, 2019 6:37:16 GMT
Man has opinion?
Did you know Christopher Nolan enjoys Michael Bay movies?
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Post by hobowar on Nov 17, 2019 6:38:16 GMT
Quentin Tarantino liked Thor Ragnarok.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Nov 17, 2019 7:23:17 GMT
1) That is not a slam. A slam would be if he were to say "They are junk, and those thinking they are anything else are morons." He is not saying they are bad movies or badly made at that(In the Deadline article which contains more information about said interview he says that he appreciates that they entertain and make profit) but he has concern for youth who may think big spectacle features are the beginning and the end of the cinematic marketplace. This concern is nothing new, and has always been around in culture by experience artists even before the motion picture was created, when something extremely popular and commercially successful with youth the older folk express concern that they may avoid seeking out something older or even less commercial that may be of better quality.
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2) In the same interview he admits that he recounts a personal story with Stan Lee and says that he had to reject the offer to direct a superhero movie because "I'm not a sci-fi guy - I don't think I could make a good one. There's so much imagination...I don't think I can reach that level."
I also see that you've not mentioned that Roland Emmerich isn't too big on Marvel movies, either, odd since you seem to cling on just anybody's opinion on Disney-Marvel which isn't 100% in their favor.
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Post by Vassaggo on Nov 17, 2019 8:52:39 GMT
Man has opinion? Did you know Christopher Nolan enjoys Michael Bay movies? Sweet Jesus really?
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Post by hobowar on Nov 17, 2019 8:58:11 GMT
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Post by Vassaggo on Nov 17, 2019 9:02:17 GMT
It doesn't effect my opinion on Nolan's movies, but it does effect my opinion on his tastes in movies, yeesh.
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Post by merh on Nov 17, 2019 9:06:55 GMT
Face/Off is "real cinema"?
Wow. I always saw it as just an action flick.
Same for Broken Arrow & Hard Target.
He turned down a Marvel movie because he lacks the imagination to make one?
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Post by ThatGuy on Nov 17, 2019 9:55:03 GMT
1) That is not a slam. A slam would be if he were to say "They are junk, and those thinking they are anything else are morons." He is not saying they are bad movies or badly made at that(In the Deadline article which contains more information about said interview he says that he appreciates that they entertain and make profit) but he has concern for youth who may think big spectacle features are the beginning and the end of the cinematic marketplace. This concern is nothing new, and has always been around in culture by experience artists even before the motion picture was created, when something extremely popular and commercially successful with youth the older folk express concern that they may avoid seeking out something older or even less commercial that may be of better quality. and 2) In the same interview he admits that he recounts a personal story with Stan Lee and says that he had to reject the offer to direct a superhero movie because "I'm not a sci-fi guy - I don't think I could make a good one. There's so much imagination...I don't think I can reach that level." I also see that you've not mentioned that Roland Emmerich isn't too big on Marvel movies, either, odd since you seem to cling on just anybody's opinion on Disney-Marvel which isn't 100% in their favor. The funny thing about all these movie makers hating on the MCU is not because the movies are bad, it's because the movies are popular. They don't like that people are following these movies so closely and mostly only going to see them (pushing them past $1 billion) instead of their movies.
And Woo thinking he can't make one because he's not a sci-fi guy is looking at them all wrong. There are plenty of low key characters that is closer to his wheelhouse. Winter Soldier is a movie he could have directed.
And Roland Emmerich is Roland Emmerich. He might as well trot out Uwe Boll.
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Post by Grabthar's Hammer on Nov 17, 2019 14:41:30 GMT
Paul Thomas Anderson loves Adam Sandler movies.
Stanley Kubrick loved White Men Can’t Jump.
Two of Tarantino’s top ten films of 2013 were Kick Ass 2 and The Lone Ranger.
Everyone has a different idea of what they consider to be “cinema”.
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Post by sostie on Nov 17, 2019 15:36:56 GMT
1) Post the original articles, not some other sites report on a report 2) John Woo is (was) one of the best (and in my opinion most influential) directors in the last 40 or so years...yet, so what. He's entitled to his opinion. 3) Do you rate Woo's films as "cinema"...bet you haven't seen a single one of his heroic bloodshed films....shame on you mr cinephile. 4) You still ignore the fact that Scorsese is also not a fan of the films YOU like.
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Post by sostie on Nov 17, 2019 15:38:03 GMT
Paul Thomas Anderson loves Adam Sandler movies. Stanley Kubrick loved White Men Can’t Jump. Two of Tarantino’s top ten films of 2013 were Kick Ass 2 and The Lone Ranger. Everyone has a different idea of what they consider to be “cinema”. Scorsese has Problem Child in his Top 995 films (yet no room for DC, X-verse or Christopher Nolan films)
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Post by summers8 on Nov 17, 2019 16:21:10 GMT
1) That is not a slam. A slam would be if he were to say "They are junk, and those thinking they are anything else are morons." He is not saying they are bad movies or badly made at that(In the Deadline article which contains more information about said interview he says that he appreciates that they entertain and make profit) but he has concern for youth who may think big spectacle features are the beginning and the end of the cinematic marketplace. This concern is nothing new, and has always been around in culture by experience artists even before the motion picture was created, when something extremely popular and commercially successful with youth the older folk express concern that they may avoid seeking out something older or even less commercial that may be of better quality. and 2) In the same interview he admits that he recounts a personal story with Stan Lee and says that he had to reject the offer to direct a superhero movie because "I'm not a sci-fi guy - I don't think I could make a good one. There's so much imagination...I don't think I can reach that level." I also see that you've not mentioned that Roland Emmerich isn't too big on Marvel movies, either, odd since you seem to cling on just anybody's opinion on Disney-Marvel which isn't 100% in their favor. The funny thing about all these movie makers hating on the MCU is not because the movies are bad, it's because the movies are popular. They don't like that people are following these movies so closely and mostly only going to see them (pushing them past $1 billion) instead of their movies.
And Woo thinking he can't make one because he's not a sci-fi guy is looking at them all wrong. There are plenty of low key characters that is closer to his wheelhouse. Winter Soldier is a movie he could have directed.
And Roland Emmerich is Roland Emmerich. He might as well trot out Uwe Boll.
9 months gone, still grasping for popularity. LMAO. who is mcu popular too? brainfart audiences' still?
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Post by summers8 on Nov 17, 2019 16:22:09 GMT
Face/Off is "real cinema"? Wow. I always saw it as just an action flick. Same for Broken Arrow & Hard Target. He turned down a Marvel movie because he lacks the imagination to make one? When I rethink of face off, civil war is like a dumb take of the film.
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Post by summers8 on Nov 17, 2019 16:23:46 GMT
Paul Thomas Anderson loves Adam Sandler movies. Stanley Kubrick loved White Men Can’t Jump. Two of Tarantino’s top ten films of 2013 were Kick Ass 2 and The Lone Ranger. Everyone has a different idea of what they consider to be “cinema”. Scorsese has Problem Child in his Top 995 films (yet no room for DC, X-verse or Christopher Nolan films) DC, X-Verse Nolan films were not damaging cinema. they had ups and downs like any franchise but MCU is just an film embarrassment now.
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Post by summers8 on Nov 17, 2019 16:35:45 GMT
Go back a year, I made a list of directors who hated mcu and to think the list has doubled by now. MCU is not a saving franchise anymore.
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Post by sostie on Nov 17, 2019 16:41:26 GMT
He's Gone Schizo!!!!! (thenolan not Woo)
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Post by politicidal on Nov 17, 2019 17:01:59 GMT
Go back a year, I made a list of directors who hated mcu and to think the list has doubled by now. MCU is not a saving franchise anymore. Quoting your sock now, that's cute.
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Post by Skaathar on Nov 17, 2019 17:12:54 GMT
Here's the thing: the MCU has raised the bar when it comes to making action movies, adventure movies, and blockbusters in general.
Based on the new bar that the MCU set, Woo's movies would fall somewhere from mediocre to terrible.
The MCU's success is making it hard for other action movies to keep up. Like a supermall that takes away business from a mom 'n pop store. So I get it, I understand his frustration. But let's not pretend his movies are somehow "better cinema" than the MCU.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Nov 17, 2019 18:12:47 GMT
My lord, summers8 is back! Well, they do say November is the gloomiest month of the year.
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