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Post by dianachristensen on Dec 30, 2019 6:06:24 GMT
Can we even call it a movie? Okay, how 'bout... Is The Irishman the worst thing Scorsese ever committed to celluloid? Wait, no, it's definitely digital. I got it: So let me get this straight, Scorsese goes off about MC not being cinema, or whatever, when he had already used "software" (can I call it "failware"?) to make a bunch of geriatric Caucasoid men, with their super old looking bodies, look semi-Korean in the face??  |
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Post by RomyLovesMick on Dec 30, 2019 6:22:52 GMT
Can we even call it a movie? Okay, how 'bout... Is The Irishman the worst thing Scorsese ever committed to celluloid? Wait, no, it's definitely digital. I got it: So let me get this straight, Scorsese goes off about MC not being cinema, or whatever, when he had already used "software" (can I call it "failware"?) to make a bunch of geriatric Caucasoid men, with their super old looking bodies, look semi-Korean in the face?? I kept looking at my watch and groaning. Man, that was a long 12 hours.
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Post by dianachristensen on Dec 30, 2019 6:27:29 GMT
The Irishman is okayyy. It's too long. My favorite movies this year are Dark Waters and Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
What's Dark Waters like?
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Post by dianachristensen on Dec 30, 2019 6:28:34 GMT
Can we even call it a movie? Okay, how 'bout... Is The Irishman the worst thing Scorsese ever committed to celluloid? Wait, no, it's definitely digital. I got it: So let me get this straight, Scorsese goes off about MC not being cinema, or whatever, when he had already used "software" (can I call it "failware"?) to make a bunch of geriatric Caucasoid men, with their super old looking bodies, look semi-Korean in the face?? I kept looking at my watch and groaning. Man, that was a long 12 hours. It was! To be fair, I'll vote it Best to Fall Asleep To. No wait, too much gratuitous yelling for it to be that. Speaking of which, Pacino as Hoffa? Be more NY Italian-American, Al, oh no, that's right, you can't. Hoffa was what, Polish and Irish? German? It was just so embarrassing for Pacino, which kind of made De Niro and Pesci and like every other actor in it look great, only by contrast. Maybe that was the plan. Pacino's not one of Scorsese's old men, maybe lure Pacino in and stand on his shoulders was the master scheme, all along. Too bad Scorsese didn't invite his other favorite once-was, DiCaprio, to the party. Dude could really use a win now that he's getting out-acted by Brad Pitt. Woof, rest in peace, all y'all's acting chops. Oh my gosh, that's it! Scorsese's a Talent Vampire!
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Post by RomyLovesMick on Dec 30, 2019 6:30:15 GMT
The Irishman is okayyy. It's too long.
m favorite movies this year are Dark Waters and Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
I can't bring myself to see Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. I'm not a big Tarantino fan to begin with and the fact that he included an alternative ending - alternative to actual events, I mean - pretty much clinches my not wanting to see it. Plus, DiCaprio long ago lost his boyish charm and talent, for me at least.
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Post by mslo79 on Dec 30, 2019 7:07:22 GMT
Not even close, it's within his Top 5 in my book. I could easily find worse and I am sure damn near everyone would agree if you look at ALL movies Scorsese directed.
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Yeah, when it comes to DiCaprio I think he's the closest to one gets to Tom Cruise level (who I used as THE measuring stick for strong screen presence paired with a strong filmography) for someone under the age of 50 as no one else is even close I suspect with the general public.
so people like DiCaprio are more of a rarity in general as usually, like you pretty much said, many might be fairly popular for maybe 5-10 years tops and then mostly disappear where as Dicaprio one could say is still going strong 22+ years later (I am just assuming we start from Titanic (1997)).
p.s. with Tom Cruise he's 33+ years (I am just assuming we start from Top Gun (1986)) and still going. sure, I suspect his peak appeal here in the USA was probably something in the ball park of 1986 to mid-to-late 2000's (or so) but I heard his overseas appeal is still pretty strong and it's not exactly like he's even close to disappeared here in the USA either even though his peak fame has passed, but still going solid enough. because I think it's guaranteed Tom Cruise gets a lifetime achievement award at some point because if there is one person who deserves that award straight up, it's clearly Tom Cruise given his longevity etc.
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Post by dianachristensen on Dec 30, 2019 7:09:47 GMT
The Irishman is okayyy. It's too long. m favorite movies this year are Dark Waters and Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
I can't bring myself to see Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. I'm not a big Tarantino fan to begin with and the fact that he included an alternative ending - alternative to actual events, I mean - pretty much clinches my not wanting to see it. Plus, DiCaprio long ago lost his boyish charm and talent, for me at least. By the way, your current avatar looks just like Marcia Brady at her prettiest hugging a Rhodesian Ridgeback. I grew up with one o' those, a Rhodesian Ridgeback, not Marcia Brady. 
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Post by dianachristensen on Dec 30, 2019 7:49:07 GMT
You'd like it. It's based on true events. It's similar to Erin Brockovich (2000).
Oh, noooo. It's that Ruffalo vehicle. Pass. It's just, when it starts out, his character is supposed to be a slick corporate attorney, right? Y'okay. The ultimate overgrown Bernie Bro undergoes massive transformation from what he could never convincingly portray to what he obviously already is? Meh. I'll stick to MacAvoy and Hardy, a couple/few of the Aussies, half a Kiwi, that English Welshman who yelled at his mom and sister for being weird, Gary Oldman, Tom Wilkinson who's just the British GOAT in my regard, that funky Cucumberbandersnatch, Redmayne's good, love Domhnall and his da. Who we got? Woody Harrelson GOAT, Adam Driver, Gosling can get it thespianically speaking, that kid who's the kid in everything Lucas Hedges, Matt Damon's still good if you knock the rust off him hard enough, Ansel Elgort, Billy Bob Thornton (hope someone writes a good script for him soon or he writes another one for himself), Sam Rockwell natch, is Christopher Walken still almost human? So basically everyone who's acted for Martin McDonagh, and a few other dudes who should real soon. No wonder I've been down on American (male) actors, it's been too much Bernie Bros lately, and not enough of these ones. Good to do inventory, every now and then.
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Post by dianachristensen on Dec 30, 2019 8:00:51 GMT
Not even close, it's within his Top 5 in my book. I could easily find worse and I am sure damn near everyone would agree if you look at ALL movies Scorsese directed. @refiner Yeah, when it comes to DiCaprio I think he's the closest to one gets to Tom Cruise level (who I used as THE measuring stick for strong screen presence paired with a strong filmography) for someone under the age of 50 as no one else is even close I suspect with the general public. so people like DiCaprio are more of a rarity in general as usually, like you pretty much said, many might be fairly popular for maybe 5-10 years tops and then mostly disappear where as Dicaprio one could say is still going strong 22+ years later (I am just assuming we start from Titanic (1997)). p.s. with Tom Cruise he's 33+ years (I am just assuming we start from Top Gun (1986)) and still going. sure, I suspect his peak appeal here in the USA was probably something in the ball park of 1986 to mid-to-late 2000's (or so) but I heard his overseas appeal is still pretty strong and it's not exactly like he's even close to disappeared here in the USA either even though his peak fame has passed, but still going solid enough. because I think it's guaranteed Tom Cruise gets a lifetime achievement award at some point because if there is one person who deserves that award straight up, it's clearly Tom Cruise given his longevity etc. Tom Cruise is great. He's such a knockout in Born on the Fourth of July. If he hadn't been up against Daniel Day-Lewis in My Left Foot, he absolutely would have an Oscar for his portrayal of Ron Kovic.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Dec 30, 2019 9:18:40 GMT
He should have got Kate Winslet to play Hoffa.
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Post by Fox in the Snow on Dec 30, 2019 12:41:35 GMT
I've not seen it. The Wolf of Wall Street is my least favorite of his so far, granted I haven't seen his first two films. I'm not the biggest Scorsese fan, my favorite of his is After Hours, but I'll probably get to it at some point.
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Post by poelzig on Dec 30, 2019 22:19:46 GMT
The Irishman is okayyy. It's too long. My favorite movies this year are Dark Waters and Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
What's Dark Waters like? Dark
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Post by ck100 on Dec 30, 2019 22:26:17 GMT
Good, but the length definitely hurts it. Maybe 2.5 hours at most would have been better.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2019 2:08:12 GMT
No, it's one of his 10 best.
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Post by senan90 on Dec 31, 2019 2:24:25 GMT
Can we even call it a movie? Okay, how 'bout... Is The Irishman the worst thing Scorsese ever committed to celluloid? Wait, no, it's definitely digital. I got it: So let me get this straight, Scorsese goes off about MC not being cinema, or whatever, when he had already used "software" (can I call it "failware"?) to make a bunch of geriatric Caucasoid men, with their super old looking bodies, look semi-Korean in the face?? Yes, we can call it a film. It's not a film of infantile nonsense that you like.
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Post by dianachristensen on Dec 31, 2019 3:53:07 GMT
Not interested! Looks like another typical arrogant and bombastic Scorsese film about ugly spiritually impoverished people doing ugly things to each other. Perhaps that is his point, but the praise many of his films get just because he is Scorsese is exaggerated and pretentious. I love this post. I want to run away with it and elope. It's perfection. I could never have found the words because I never knew what my misgiving was about his films of this type, even one like Goodfellas that I enjoyed in spite of something really uneasy at the core of it. It's hard to know you even have misgivings about something when the world is yelling its praises.
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Post by Stammerhead on Dec 31, 2019 10:26:33 GMT
I liked it but it is too long and he should have used younger actors. Unlike many people I liked the last section because De Niro is the right age and his character got what he deserved (even if it wasn’t a bullet through the head).
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Post by truecristian on Dec 31, 2019 20:49:03 GMT
Can we even call it a movie? Okay, how 'bout... Is The Irishman the worst thing Scorsese ever committed to celluloid? Wait, no, it's definitely digital. I got it: So let me get this straight, Scorsese goes off about MC not being cinema, or whatever, when he had already used "software" (can I call it "failware"?) to make a bunch of geriatric Caucasoid men, with their super old looking bodies, look semi-Korean in the face?? movie may has not great acting performances, its script is so strong, and I have no doubt that created mythology of our ages. And also this movie had revolutionary visual effects. As a film it is very simple and easy to follow. There are no big twists, dilemmas and the good forces come on top. The special effects and film have definitely aged but it has some classic elements.
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Post by Prime etc. on Dec 31, 2019 20:56:25 GMT
DiCaprio was a beta actor promoted to A status. So was Tom Cruise.
This is why it is funny to see Cruise in action man roles--he is not biologically suited for it.
DiCaprio was NOT a pretty boy.
He was the goofy Chester-type youth, the retarded kid, the average teen (even when he was over 20), Hollywood made him into an alleged heartthrob because they wanted to avoid promoting any old fashioned marquee types.
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Post by TheOriginalPinky on Dec 31, 2019 21:25:46 GMT
I liked it - a lot. We saw it over two nights. It wasn't as graphic or violent as some of his other films, and kept my interest peeked.
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