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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 7, 2020 23:17:05 GMT
Batman Begins is the best film in that trilogy to me. And Infinity War is better than all three of them. And its not even close. Nope. All 3 films of The Dark Knight Trilogy are not only better than Infinity War but better than anything MCU has made. And it isn't even close.
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Post by Skaathar on Jan 7, 2020 23:18:16 GMT
Batman Begins is the best film in that trilogy to me. And Infinity War is better than all three of them. And its not even close. Nope. All 3 films of The Dark Knight Trilogy are not only better than Infinity War but better than anything MCU has made. And it isn't even close. You forgot to put "in my opinion".
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 7, 2020 23:19:03 GMT
The Dark Knight is better than any MCU movie could ever hope of being. After 20+ movies they still have yet to make one that even compares. Maybe made 2 or 3 that compare to Batman Begins and The Dark Knight Rises and that's a push. the very best of the MCU rivals The Dark Knight and some respects bests it Nope. Nothing that MCU has made even comes close to the level of The Dark Knight.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 7, 2020 23:23:04 GMT
Nope. All 3 films of The Dark Knight Trilogy are not only better than Infinity War but better than anything MCU has made. And it isn't even close. You forgot to put "in my opinion". Not just my opinion. The Dark Knight is #4 on IMDb's top-rated movies. Only The Shawshank Redemption and the first 2 Godfather movies are rated higher than The Dark Knight. MCU doesn't have any movie that's in that level.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 7, 2020 23:25:24 GMT
the very best of the MCU rivals The Dark Knight and some respects bests it Nope. Nothing that MCU has made even comes close to the level of The Dark Knight. In your opinion. Also, please for the love of all that is holy keep my whole post up when you respond, I never spoke objectively I spoke subjectively.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 7, 2020 23:32:03 GMT
You forgot to put "in my opinion". Not just my opinion. The Dark Knight is #4 on IMDb's top-rated movies. Only The Shawshank Redemption and the first 2 Godfather movies are rated higher than The Dark Knight. MCU doesn't have any movie that's in that level. Since when is IMDb's top-rated movies list an argument finisher? They stopped favoring quality over popularity in 2007, that's why a lot of newer releases saw themselves on the list for a good while. And The Dark Knight, as good of a movie it is, is definitely not a better movie than 2001, Return of the King, Seven Samurai, 12 Angry Men, Pulp Fiction, The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly, The Empire Strikes Back, Princess Mononoke, City of God, Saving Private Ryan, Casablanca, Gone with the Wind, Rear Window, Grave of the Fireflies, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Sunset Blvd. Citizen Kane, M, or The Green Mile which all rank lower on the list.
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Post by Skaathar on Jan 7, 2020 23:34:01 GMT
You forgot to put "in my opinion". Not just my opinion. The Dark Knight is #4 on IMDb's top-rated movies. Only The Shawshank Redemption and the first 2 Godfather movies are rated higher than The Dark Knight. MCU doesn't have any movie that's in that level. And it's ranked #10 in Rottentomatoes among best superhero movies of all time, outranked by a number of MCU movies. Are you really going to tell me that IMDB has a more respectable ranking system than RT?
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 7, 2020 23:40:58 GMT
Not just my opinion. The Dark Knight is #4 on IMDb's top-rated movies. Only The Shawshank Redemption and the first 2 Godfather movies are rated higher than The Dark Knight. MCU doesn't have any movie that's in that level. And it's ranked #10 in Rottentomatoes among best superhero movies of all time, outranked by a number of MCU movies. Are you really going to tell me that IMDB has a more respectable ranking system than RT? It's already proven that RT is biased in favor of MCU movies. Heck, RT took down their Audience Want to See rating just because the majority of audience voted that they didn't want to see Captain Marvel.
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Post by seahawksraawk00 on Jan 8, 2020 0:01:36 GMT
You forgot to put "in my opinion". Not just my opinion. The Dark Knight is #4 on IMDb's top-rated movies. Only The Shawshank Redemption and the first 2 Godfather movies are rated higher than The Dark Knight. MCU doesn't have any movie that's in that level. It doesn't matter how high it is on any list, it doesn't reflect an individual's opinion or the rest of the world. If someone thinks the worse MCU film is better than the Dark Knight, then you have no right to tell em they're wrong.
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Post by bud47 on Jan 8, 2020 0:01:45 GMT
And it's ranked #10 in Rottentomatoes among best superhero movies of all time, outranked by a number of MCU movies. Are you really going to tell me that IMDB has a more respectable ranking system than RT? It's already proven that RT is biased in favor of MCU movies. Heck, RT took down their Audience Want to See rating just because the majority of audience voted that they didn't want to see Captain Marvel. Don't fall for the bait people. It's just what he wants.
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Post by Skaathar on Jan 8, 2020 0:05:18 GMT
And it's ranked #10 in Rottentomatoes among best superhero movies of all time, outranked by a number of MCU movies. Are you really going to tell me that IMDB has a more respectable ranking system than RT? It's already proven that RT is biased in favor of MCU movies. Heck, RT took down their Audience Want to See rating just because the majority of audience voted that they didn't want to see Captain Marvel. I don't recall any proof being shown. Anyway, please stop deflecting and prove why IMDB scores are supposedly better than RT scores.
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Post by Skaathar on Jan 8, 2020 0:06:31 GMT
It's already proven that RT is biased in favor of MCU movies. Heck, RT took down their Audience Want to See rating just because the majority of audience voted that they didn't want to see Captain Marvel. Don't fall for the bait people. It's just what he wants. Don't worry, DC-Fan is afraid of me. Every single time I engaged him in debate he'd respond a few times then eventually ghost me once I've backed him into a corner.
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Post by justanaveragejoe on Jan 8, 2020 0:51:52 GMT
And it's ranked #10 in Rottentomatoes among best superhero movies of all time, outranked by a number of MCU movies. Are you really going to tell me that IMDB has a more respectable ranking system than RT? It's already proven that RT is biased in favor of MCU movies. Heck, RT took down their Audience Want to See rating just because the majority of audience voted that they didn't want to see Captain Marvel. Where's your proof that RT is biased in favor of MCU? It's just a website that collects reviews from critics, and majority happen to be positive. Also, if majority of audiences didn't want to see Captain Marvel, then why was it a success at the box office?
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Post by Skaathar on Jan 8, 2020 1:43:40 GMT
I read somewhere that Bale might be playing Beta Ray Bill.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Jan 8, 2020 6:15:01 GMT
I read somewhere that Bale might be playing Beta Ray Bill. He'd be great!
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Post by hobowar on Jan 8, 2020 6:43:02 GMT
the very best of the MCU rivals The Dark Knight and some respects bests it Nope. Nothing that MCU has made even comes close to the level of The Dark Knight. Iron Man 3, Avengers: Age of Ultron and Black Panther are better than Dark Knight in every way imaginable... in my opinion of course.
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Post by hobowar on Jan 8, 2020 6:45:47 GMT
You forgot to put "in my opinion". Not just my opinion. The Dark Knight is #4 on IMDb's top-rated movies. Only The Shawshank Redemption and the first 2 Godfather movies are rated higher than The Dark Knight. MCU doesn't have any movie that's in that level. Which movie do you prefer, Shawshank or Dark Knight?
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jan 8, 2020 13:04:02 GMT
Skaathar scabab I think Batman Begins features a better overall story arc whereas TDK features more memorable moments and of course an iconic performance by Ledger. Most of what you remember about TDK is Joker-related, but the rousing finale is pure Batman. TDK tries too hard is places, i.e. the forced political commentary with the ferry scene or the phone tapping for example. It almost takes you out of the movie and really bogs things down on rewatch. Despite its nonlinear approach, BB has a smoother screenplay that allows you to soak everything in without being overwhelmed by a villain who steals the film from the protagonist. But comparatively speaking, BB lacks that 'wow' factor present in TDK. I don't really consider any of these things to be major faults, so much as ways the films contrast. The Dark Knight shot and aimed for further. Batman Begins was a cleaner film. I don't subscribe to the idea Heath Ledger stole The Dark Knight, but I do think Batman's status as a main character is up in the air in that one. There's an ensemble to observe, whereas I'd argue Batman was the main character in Batman Begins. By a small but amusing margin, Batman Begins has the least abrasive Christian Bale Batman voice of the 3.
I also didn't care for The Dark Knight Rises, but that's strictly a function of the direction with which they took the story. It's a fine film but I would have been fine if they'd left it at The Dark Knight with no third installment. I didn't like where they took the story, which for me is permission to be more open about it. I actually find it refreshing to dislike a movie because of the story than fretting about direction, choreography, cinematography, i.e. all the things I'd brush off if I really liked the results, which in this case I did not.
Yeah the story in TDKR is nonsense from start to finish, it doesn't even fit with the end of TDK. In all honesty it ruins the trilogy which why I refuse to accept it, much like Indiana Jones 4, anything after T2 or Die Hard 3, etc.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jan 8, 2020 13:06:22 GMT
For me it's a toss up, they're both equally great films. TDKR was total garbage, though. TDK is the best of them. And i love Marvel but they haven't reached TDK level with the possible exception of TWS. The thing is, Marvel is going for a different tone than TDK. TDK is more of a crime drama pretending to be a CBM whereas the MCU is embracing everything about the world of comic books. There have been equally great Marvel flicks, they're just very different from what Nolan was doing.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jan 8, 2020 15:31:55 GMT
Nope. Nothing that MCU has made even comes close to the level of The Dark Knight. Iron Man 3, Avengers: Age of Ultron and Black Panther are better than Dark Knight in every way imaginable Not even close. It's like saying Johnny Dangerously is better than The Godfather. LOL!!!
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