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Post by hobowar on Jan 8, 2020 12:58:40 GMT
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Post by Winter_King on Jan 8, 2020 15:21:09 GMT
Considering the general incompetence of Arkham Asylum, probably.
Tbh I was never a fan of the no kill rule of Batman. Very often, it's taken to ridiculous degrees.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jan 8, 2020 15:39:48 GMT
I’m honestly tired of this question being asked at this point.
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Post by hobowar on Jan 8, 2020 21:40:52 GMT
I’m honestly tired of this question being asked at this point. Just one more question. Harvey Dent. Can we trust him?
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Post by barfholomew on Jan 11, 2020 20:43:39 GMT
I hope that someday they let the Punisher loose on Gotham City just to see in what brutal fashion he will kill Batman's rogue gallery  |
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Jan 14, 2020 6:36:39 GMT
Considering the general incompetence of Arkham Asylum, probably. Tbh I was never a fan of the no kill rule of Batman. Very often, it's taken to ridiculous degrees. Well, Batman has an amazing rogues gallery. If Batman were taking names, that rogues gallery would whittle down pretty fast. Or, if you're Zack Snyder, you can just ignore that contradiction and hope no one notices Batman massacring Lexcorp delivery guys but not the psychotic clown pimp that murdered his partner. |
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Post by MCDemuth on Jan 14, 2020 7:23:41 GMT
This "Heroes Don't Kill" belief, has gotten ridiculous... Sure, Heroes should try to avoid killing anyone whenever possible... But... What about the villain is "too dangerous to be left alive" concept?
How many times have these villains been stopped, only to come back and kill more people, stopped again, and then killed even more people? And So on And So On...
People bitched about Superman killing Zod in "Man Of Steel" 2013... But, Why?... Didn't these people actually watch the movie?
What was Superman suppose to do, just let Zod kill that family?
No. That would have been worse.
Superman tried everything else he could do until the last possible moment, but, he was out of time, and killing Zod was the only option he had left...
Even if there was another way, and Superman didn't kill Zod, Zod would have eventually killed others, anyway... And whose fault would it be for all those additional deaths?... Superman's!... Why? Because Superman didn't stop Zod once and for all!
As I said earlier, yes, our heroes should try to avoid killing anyone whenever possible... Lock them up, send them to the Phantom Zone, "Whatever"... But, when that doesn't work, sometimes, the only way do deal with these villains is to get rid of them, for good. That may mean death.
The Joker?... He is one of those bad guys that will NEVER stop being the ultimate evil "bad guy"...
And Batman aka "The Dark Knight"?... He doesn't have the same "perfect" heroic image that Superman, and others, LIKE the Flash, and Spider-Man, have... If Superman must take the life of a villain, in such an extreme "no win" situation, every once in a while, to be able to save the lives of innocent citizens...
Then Batman should be able to do the same, under similar circumstances as well.
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Post by Tristan's Journal on Jan 14, 2020 9:24:17 GMT
The no kill dilemma is an interesting aspect of this character but very inconsistent.
One of the more nuanced depictions of this was in the BvS character arc where Batman starts out as a fanatical vigilante destroying those that endanger his current and past families (parents, his employees). But in the end, when Superman is gone, Bruce adopts his values and changes ways (eg by not branding criminals anymore) and founds an organization to compensate for the loss.
A lot of Nietzsche "God is dead" and "Übermensch/Superman" ideas in there.
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Post by Winter_King on Jan 14, 2020 9:52:09 GMT
This " Heroes Don't Kill" belief, has gotten ridiculous... Sure, Heroes should try to avoid killing anyone whenever possible... But... What about the villain is " too dangerous to be left alive" concept? How many times have these villains been stopped, only to come back and kill more people, stopped again, and then killed even more people? And So on And So On... People bitched about Superman killing Zod in "Man Of Steel" 2013... But, Why?... Didn't these people actually watch the movie? What was Superman suppose to do, just let Zod kill that family? No. That would have been worse. Superman tried everything else he could do until the last possible moment, but, he was out of time, and killing Zod was the only option he had left... Even if there was another way, and Superman didn't kill Zod, Zod would have eventually killed others, anyway... And whose fault would it be for all those additional deaths?... Superman's!... Why? Because Superman didn't stop Zod once and for all! As I said earlier, yes, our heroes should try to avoid killing anyone whenever possible... Lock them up, send them to the Phantom Zone, "Whatever"... But, when that doesn't work, sometimes, the only way do deal with these villains is to get rid of them, for good. That may mean death. The Joker?... He is one of those bad guys that will NEVER stop being the ultimate evil "bad guy"... And Batman aka "The Dark Knight"?... He doesn't have the same "perfect" heroic image that Superman, and others, LIKE the Flash, and Spider-Man, have... If Superman must take the life of a villain, in such an extreme "no win" situation, every once in a while, to be able to save the lives of innocent citizens... Then Batman should be able to do the same, under similar circumstances as well. People bitched about Superman killing Zod in Man of Steel and very often for the wrong reasons. Superman should've killed Zod immediately after he was already responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent people. Basically the moment he put the World Engine into motion. Not when he was about to kill four more people in addition to the thousand he had already killed because at that point.
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Post by Winter_King on Jan 14, 2020 10:11:09 GMT
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Post by dnno1 on Jan 15, 2020 20:36:13 GMT
Not while he (the Joker) is so popular right now.
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Post by hobowar on Dec 30, 2020 4:59:22 GMT
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Post by politicidal on Dec 30, 2020 16:34:51 GMT
MCDemuth the neck snap in MOS never bothered me either. I'm surprised it got so much backlash.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Dec 30, 2020 19:36:04 GMT
Should Batman kill the Joker? ...At this point... YES! I appreciate and agree with the no kill rule most heroes have. However... The amount of damage Joker has done over the years, the number of lives taken by him, the fact that he is an excellent escape artist with a 100% success rate, and that fact that he is totally and completely irredeemable, incurable and impossible to rehabilitate, convinces me that this is the incredibly rare instance in which I would actually advocate for the death penalty. The truth is someone would have done it by now, but we know that DC will never do it. Too popular! As a matter of fact, he's getting his own comic series!
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