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Post by msdemos on Jan 13, 2020 2:23:50 GMT
I happened to mention to somebody at work that the Northwest is one part of the country I've never been to, and that Seattle is a place I'd like to eventually see. Surprisingly, the person I mentioned it to said it's an interesting place to visit......just be careful where you go at night, since there's some VERY rough areas of town, due to drugs..... From your experience........true, semi-true, or not true at all ??  SAVE FERRIS
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Post by poelzig on Jan 13, 2020 2:33:32 GMT
It's overwhelmingly white and the constant rain causes a lot of depression. So of course there's s LOOOOOOOOTTTTTT of drugs and druggies. However, there's lots of drugs no matter where you live in America my dude. We love to get high and altered and obliterated. Booze is by far worse than any illegal drug out there and I bet you can get alcohol from a dozen places within a mile or so of where you are right now. Drunks are scumbags.
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Post by ZolotoyRetriever on Jan 13, 2020 2:50:21 GMT
I happened to mention to somebody at work that the Northwest is one part of the country I've never been to, and that Seattle is a place I'd like to eventually see. Surprisingly, the person I mentioned it to said it's an interesting place to visit......just be careful where you go at night, since there's some VERY rough areas of town, due to drugs..... From your experience........true, semi-true, or not true at all ?? SAVE FERRIS
Some "rough" parts of town do exist; also, the homeless problem (which most people, including myself, see as being rooted in either mental illness or drug abuse, or both) is quite pronounced in some areas. Still, you'll not find large tracts of slum areas or urban devastation like you'll find in, say, parts of Detroit or Baltimore. So along those lines I would say it's not as bad as your acquaintance made it out to be. That doesn't mean you don't have to be careful in certain areas, but that advice could and should be adhered to no matter what big American city you find yourself in.
I think my biggest gripe is congestion: traffic is bad, with parts of I-5 - which runs right through the city - being quite choked for goodly parts of the day. Housing prices and rents are quite high, making some of the nicer neighborhoods simply unaffordable to the common man or woman. That's not of particular concern to me as I already have a home and don't need to move or buy anything for the rest of my life. But, it is a general fact of life here that housing is expensive and for many, it is prohibitively expensive.
Our weather is a mixed bag. I like it, in all its many seasonal variations, but yeah, there are those rainy stretches that would send other people packing for Southern California or Florida. At least we never really have long, insufferable heat spells or droughts - well, okay we have them once in a while, but they're nowhere as severe as in other parts of the country.
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Post by msdemos on Jan 13, 2020 3:16:02 GMT
I happened to mention to somebody at work that the Northwest is one part of the country I've never been to, and that Seattle is a place I'd like to eventually see. Surprisingly, the person I mentioned it to said it's an interesting place to visit......just be careful where you go at night, since there's some VERY rough areas of town, due to drugs..... From your experience........true, semi-true, or not true at all ?? SAVE FERRIS
Some "rough" parts of town do exist; also, the homeless problem (which most people, including myself, see as being rooted in either mental illness or drug abuse, or both) is quite pronounced in some areas. Still, you'll not find large tracts of slum areas or urban devastation like you'll find in, say, parts of Detroit or Baltimore. So along those lines I would say it's not as bad as your acquaintance made it out to be. That doesn't mean you don't have to be careful in certain areas, but that advice could and should be adhered to no matter what big American city you find yourself in.
I think my biggest gripe is congestion: traffic is bad, with parts of I-5 - which runs right through the city - being quite choked for goodly parts of the day. Housing prices and rents are quite high, making some of the nicer neighborhoods simply unaffordable to the common man or woman. That's not of particular concern to me as I already have a home and don't need to move or buy anything for the rest of my life. But, it is a general fact of life here that housing is expensive and for many, it is prohibitively expensive.
Our weather is a mixed bag. I like it, in all its many seasonal variations, but yeah, there are those rainy stretches that would send other people packing for Southern California or Florida. At least we never really have long, insufferable heat spells or droughts - well, okay we have them once in a while, but they're nowhere as severe as in other parts of the country. Thank you VERY much.....the first response, though appreciated, didn't really answer the question, but your thoughtful response definitely did.....  SAVE FERRIS
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Post by poelzig on Jan 13, 2020 3:34:56 GMT
I'm from Seattle. It's difficult to categorize the entire city with just a few sweeping statements along the lines of, "The people are all like [...], the weather is like [...], neighborhoods are all like [...]." The city is too big and spread out over a variety of geographical areas and different socio-economic groups to make such blanket statements about the place. I would say it's mainly white, but certainly not "overwhelmingly" white: there has been a steady infusion of Asian and Latino settlement in the area over the recent years, and this mix is inescapable any time you go shopping - barring, of course, you're in certain neighborhoods that, on the home-price meter, simply aren't accessible to more recent immigrants. But yeah, there is definitely a cultural mix here.
Some "rough" parts of town do exist; also, the homeless problem (which most people, including myself, see as being rooted in either mental illness or drug abuse, or both) is quite pronounced in some areas. Still, you'll not find large tracts of slum areas or urban devastation like you'll find in, say, parts of Detroit or Baltimore. So along those lines I would say it's not as bad as your acquaintance made it out to be. That doesn't mean you don't have to be careful in certain areas, but that advice could and should be adhered to no matter what big American city you find yourself in.
I think my biggest gripe is congestion: traffic is bad, with parts of I-5 - which runs right through the city - being quite choked for goodly parts of the day. Housing prices and rents are quite high, making some of the nicer neighborhoods simply unaffordable to the common man or woman. That's not of particular concern to me as I already have a home and don't need to move or buy anything for the rest of my life. But, it is a general fact of life here that housing is expensive and for many, it is prohibitively expensive.
Our weather is a mixed bag. I like it, in all its many seasonal variations, but yeah, there are those rainy stretches that would send other people packing for Southern California or Florida. At least we never really have long, insufferable heat spells or droughts - well, okay we have them once in a while, but they're nowhere as severe as in other parts of the country. Thank you VERY much.....the first response, though appreciated, didn't really answer the question, but your thoughtful response definitely did..... SAVE FERRIS I responded and everything I said was true. Was your hateful jab at me needed? You are terrified you might see a non white if you visit and both responses assured you that you would see very few black folks. Next time specify that you only want whites to respond. Here's more info for you Einstein. Numerous well known musicians from Seattle have died prematurely. ALL of them were from either DRUG overdoes or suicides because they were alcoholics or drug addicts so do the math. Yes there are lots of druggies and drunks in Seattle. YES there are lots of sketchy neighborhoods just like every other large metropolitan area in the US. Are you seriously as naive and clueless as you seem? What 1950's TV show do you live in where there are no "rough areas of town, due to drugs..... " Are you totally sober or the typical hypocritical drunk?
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Post by msdemos on Jan 13, 2020 4:18:31 GMT
Thank you VERY much.....the first response, though appreciated, didn't really answer the question, but your thoughtful response definitely did..... SAVE FERRIS I responded and everything I said was true. Was your hateful jab at me needed? You are terrified you might see a non white if you visit and both responses assured you that you would see very few black folks. Next time specify that you only want whites to respond. Here's more info for you Einstein. Numerous well known musicians from Seattle have died prematurely. ALL of them were from either DRUG overdoes or suicides because they were alcoholics or drug addicts so do the math. Yes there are lots of druggies and drunks in Seattle. YES there are lots of sketchy neighborhoods just like every other large metropolitan area in the US. Are you seriously as naive and clueless as you seem? What 1950's TV show do you live in where there are no "rough areas of town, due to drugs..... " Are you totally sober or the typical hypocritical drunk? What's the frequency, Kenneth ??  SAVE FERRIS
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Post by Nora on Jan 13, 2020 17:34:05 GMT
I enjoyed my time in Seattle (but felt even more comfortable in Portland) and didnt feel in danger anywhere while there, certainly no more than I would lets say in some worse parts of Brooklyn where I live now.
Like the poster before me said, just apply your normal big city awareness. Its a great city, with a lot of interesting culture and subcultures, enjoy it.
So far the place I was Most scared to be at. after dark was Buffalo New York. That had me really worried at one point. maybe even more than Baltimore.
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Post by divtal on Jan 13, 2020 20:50:23 GMT
ZolotoyRetriever nailed it ... of course that's his home. Do yourself a favor, and go! Seattle is a great city, and I've always loved my visits there. I went to school in Oregon, and trips up to Seattle-Tacoma were frequent. Decades later, I still visit school friends, and was there last July for a work-related reunion with colleagues in Port Angeles. But, I had to spend a couple of days in Seattle. I don't know much about the various residential neighborhoods. I stay in a hotel on the waterfront (Elliot Bay), and spend hours wandering; the Wharf, Downtown, Pikes Market, Space Needle area. That's a good work-out, too, with the hills. If I visit friends' homes they pick me up, or I take a taxi. Dining, on all levels of formality, is wonderful. The whole western part of the state is seafood Mecca. And, if you like being on the water in tour-boats, or ferries, you're in for a treat. "Stunning," doesn't do the scenery justice. Yes, the northwest gets Mother Nature's rain, in fall and winter, but it's rarely "stormy." The trade-off for the greenery is well with it. And, I'd prefer it to the droughts that we tend to have in California. Msdemos, I think you said that you're from Wisconsin. Suggestion: Visit Seattle, and take Amtrak, at least one way. I did that, last July ... approaching from the south. "Train people," are so much fun, and the scenery - in all regions - has interest and beauty. When you get close to Seattle, it's jaw-dropping. I, now, want to go across the country by train. (PS: Do not rent a car. Heed ZR's words about surface street traffic, and I-5 running through town. A word-to-the-wise.  ) Enjoy! |
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Post by msdemos on Jan 13, 2020 21:46:27 GMT
Also grew up hearing that the bluest skies you've ever seen are in Seattle.......AND , that the hills are the greenest green in Seattle....Hopefully, if nothing else, THAT part is DEFINITELY true !!  SAVE FERRIS
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Post by mecano04 on Jan 13, 2020 22:02:31 GMT
I enjoyed my time in Seattle ( but felt even more comfortable in Portland) (...) So Sleepless in Seattle?
Which incidentally was directed by a Nora (Ephron).
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Post by divtal on Jan 13, 2020 22:28:58 GMT
Also grew up hearing that the bluest skies you've ever seen are in Seattle.......AND , that the hills are the greenest green in Seattle....Hopefully, if nothing else, THAT part is DEFINITELY true !! SAVE FERRIS Ah, yes. I remember "Here Come The Brides." It was a fun show. As I said, Mother Nature's rain is plentiful in the northwest. But, blue skies in Seattle, and being able to see Mt. Rainier, can be 2 different things. I'm no meteorologist, but I would guess that all of the water from the bays and inlets of Puget Sound tends to create it's own atmosphere. It can be sunny in the city, with no view of the mountain. But, I have actually seen it. I know it's there! A friend says that he doesn't "believe in," Mt. Rainier, because every time he's been there, he's been told ... "if there were no clouds, you could see Mt. Rainier, right over there." He thinks it's a hoax. 
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Post by millar70 on Jan 15, 2020 4:54:55 GMT
I've gone to Seattle for business trips about 6 times, I've actually spent about one year of my life all total in Seattle. I think it is a wonderful place, full of good food and wonderful people. I'm a pretty big guy, so might not be the right guy to give an opinion, but I've never felt uncomfortable or unsafe there at night, but as others have said it is a big city, so there is crime and areas you probably want to avoid.
Make sure you go to Dick's and get some greasy cheap burgers. You won't be disappointed.
And yes, on a clear day you will see Mt Rainier, it is quite a site. Because it's so cloudy there, you won't see it that often, which makes those days when you can view it even more special.
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Post by msdemos on Jan 15, 2020 17:28:38 GMT
ZolotoyRetriever nailed it ... of course that's his home. Do yourself a favor, and go! Seattle is a great city, and I've always loved my visits there. I went to school in Oregon, and trips up to Seattle-Tacoma were frequent. Decades later, I still visit school friends, and was there last July for a work-related reunion with colleagues in Port Angeles. But, I had to spend a couple of days in Seattle. I don't know much about the various residential neighborhoods. I stay in a hotel on the waterfront (Elliot Bay), and spend hours wandering; the Wharf, Downtown, Pikes Market, Space Needle area. That's a good work-out, too, with the hills. If I visit friends' homes they pick me up, or I take a taxi. Dining, on all levels of formality, is wonderful. The whole western part of the state is seafood Mecca. And, if you like being on the water in tour-boats, or ferries, you're in for a treat. "Stunning," doesn't do the scenery justice. Yes, the northwest gets Mother Nature's rain, in fall and winter, but it's rarely "stormy." The trade-off for the greenery is well with it. And, I'd prefer it to the droughts that we tend to have in California. Msdemos, I think you said that you're from Wisconsin. Suggestion: Visit Seattle, and take Amtrak, at least one way. I did that, last July ... approaching from the south. "Train people," are so much fun, and the scenery - in all regions - has interest and beauty. When you get close to Seattle, it's jaw-dropping. I, now, want to go across the country by train. (PS: Do not rent a car. Heed ZR's words about surface street traffic, and I-5 running through town. A word-to-the-wise. ) Enjoy! Really, REALLY weird that you happened to mention that!! I developed a REAL love for trains as a kid going to visit my grandma in Portage, WI (about 2 hours away), many, many years ago, and always decided that if, and when I get to the Northwest, that THAT would be my chance to finally get to take a nice LONG trip by rail !! And seeing this enjoyably silly movie back in the day only seemed to reinforce my wanting to go cross-country in this manner, rather than just flying over it the way I have before.... Silver Streak (1976) obscuretrainmovies.wordpress.com/2018/07/01/silver-streak-1976/Thanks for the helpful 'tips'..... SAVE FERRIS
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Post by Prime etc. on Jan 15, 2020 18:09:08 GMT
Only been to Seattle once. I would consider it a less boring version of Vancouver (which I think gets more rain).
Seattle has the advantage of monetary inflow from Boeing and Microsoft.
Vancouver is entirely reliant on government and foreign money (thus it is turning Chinese rapidly).
I visited a toy store in Seattle when we were there--it was massive.
Even Fred Meyer was more impressive than stores we had.
I watched more Seattle tv than BC stuff.
Cathie Gertzen is still an anchor on KOMO 4?
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Post by Lebowskidoo 🦞 on Jan 15, 2020 18:18:26 GMT
I used to live in Vancouver, the Seattle of Canada. Very similar cities in many ways, certainly neither is perfect, but compared to most US cities, I felt pretty at ease in Seattle.. My worst experience was encountering over-caffeinated folks on the sidewalks.
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Post by divtal on Jan 15, 2020 19:40:04 GMT
"Really, REALLY weird that you happened to mention that!! I developed a REAL love for trains as a kid going to visit my grandma in Portage, WI (about 2 hours away), many, many years ago, and always decided that if, and when I get to the Northwest, that THAT would my chance to finally be able to take a nice LONG trip by rail !!
And seeing this enjoyably silly movie back in the day only seemed to reinforce my wanting to go cross-country in this manner, rather than just flying over it the way I have before...."
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That's how I was bitten by the "train bug." Every summer, we took the train to Salem, OR, to visit my grandparents. That was a full day's journey, and I loved every minute of it. That was on the old Southern Pacific, but Amtrak uses the same track bed. It passes very close to Mt. Shasta, and goes through beautiful parts of the Cascade Mountains.
Thank you for Silver Streak. I do remember it, and will enjoy it again. Wilder and Pryor were a great team.
To you, I recommend the various YouTube videos that review Amtrak journeys, all across the country. I think that the route that would apply to you is the "Empire Builder," that runs from Chicago to Seattle.
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Post by clusium on Jan 15, 2020 23:54:26 GMT
I happened to mention to somebody at work that the Northwest is one part of the country I've never been to, and that Seattle is a place I'd like to eventually see. Surprisingly, the person I mentioned it to said it's an interesting place to visit......just be careful where you go at night, since there's some VERY rough areas of town, due to drugs..... From your experience........true, semi-true, or not true at all ?? SAVE FERRIS The only thing that I heard about Seattle is that Frances Farmer will have her revenge on it!! 
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Post by nutsberryfarm 🏜 on Jan 16, 2020 1:23:11 GMT
good city.
i'm a big fan of Spokane.
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Post by ZolotoyRetriever on Jan 16, 2020 3:17:21 GMT
Only been to Seattle once. I would consider it a less boring version of Vancouver (which I think gets more rain). Seattle has the advantage of monetary inflow from Boeing and Microsoft. Vancouver is entirely reliant on government and foreign money (thus it is turning Chinese rapidly). I visited a toy store in Seattle when we were there--it was massive. Even Fred Meyer was more impressive than stores we had. I watched more Seattle tv than BC stuff. Cathie Gertzen is still an anchor on KOMO 4?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathi_Goertzen
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Post by Prime etc. on Jan 16, 2020 3:26:10 GMT
Oh wow! What an awful thing to have and to find out about here.
I assume Jean Enerson is retired from KING.
I know Star Wars' Kathleen Kennedy's sister was an anchor at KOMO-the morning show they had.
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