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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2020 6:22:36 GMT
This question is more for the fairer sex but welcome to chime in anyway. What do you think of the selection of the past few years on the silver screen? Im curious
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Post by darkpast on Jan 13, 2020 6:27:02 GMT
Just as bad as the male led ones, equality is great
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 2:05:56 GMT
Just as bad as the male led ones, equality is great LOL which male ones are you talking about specifically?
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Post by Power Ranger on Jan 14, 2020 18:13:16 GMT
Only that it’s not ground breaking. Alien did it 40 years ago and it was loved by all and the film makers didn’t make a big deal about it.
Also the problem now is that female leads in action and sci-fi films express the womens’ strengths via their superior fighting abilities and tough girl attitude. Ripley (and Shaw in Prometheus and Daniels in Alien: Covenant) was superior through their intelligence and problem solving abilities. If Alien was made today by a different director she’d probably know martial arts and be a bitch. Which traits do you think are better role models for women? Sure martial arts are great for women but it’s not more important than intelligence. The same goes for men.
I just think they’re on the wrong track. Women are leads but their strengths are all too often superficial.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Jan 14, 2020 18:17:51 GMT
There have been female lead films since the beginning of movies, its nothing new and people need to stop acting like it is.
There are good, bad and average movies with female leads just as there is with male leads.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2020 2:38:05 GMT
Only that it’s not ground breaking. Alien did it 40 years ago and it was loved by all and the film makers didn’t make a big deal about it. Also the problem now is that female leads in action and sci-fi films express the womens’ strengths via their superior fighting abilities and tough girl attitude. Ripley (and Shaw in Prometheus and Daniels in Alien: Covenant) was superior through their intelligence and problem solving abilities. If Alien was made today by a different director she’d probably know martial arts and be a bitch. Which traits do you think are better role models for women? Sure martial arts are great for women but it’s not more important than intelligence. The same goes for men. I just think they’re on the wrong track. Women are leads but their strengths are all too often superficial. Also cant forget Linda Hamilton from Terminator. Although Im more talking about films like Fembusters, Ocean's 8, The Kitchen and theres another one Im forgetting now
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Post by kingkoopa on Jan 15, 2020 3:00:19 GMT
"Annihilation" was mostly led by women...I think there were a few male scientists in a control room somewhere, but the meat and potatoes was all the women on the field. Can't believe this movie didn't get more attention (not just for the female cast, but for the larger theme/story).
Natalie Portman isn't one of my favorites (she's beautiful, has range, but seems one-note in a lot of her mainstream roles), but she absolutely nailed this role. I was on board with believing her (and the crew) the whole time.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2020 3:08:45 GMT
"Annihilation" was mostly led by women...I think there were a few male scientists in a control room somewhere, but the meat and potatoes was all the women on the field. Can't believe this movie didn't get more attention (not just for the female cast, but for the larger theme/story). Natalie Portman isn't one of my favorites (she's beautiful, has range, but seems one-note in a lot of her mainstream roles), but she absolutely nailed this role. I was on board with believing her (and the crew) the whole time. Great film! The reason for that is the lack of marketing as the director had creative differences with Paramount and it eventually went to Netflix + a limited release in cinemas, only America and Canada. Paramount wouldnt support the film as the director stuck to his guns, they thought it was too intellectual lol
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Post by wolf359 on Jan 15, 2020 8:10:00 GMT
I think that the Top 2 Most Famous Movies with a Female Lead in them are "HALLOWEEN" and "ALIEN".
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Post by nostromo on Jan 15, 2020 13:05:02 GMT
These are all very good recent films with a female lead / leads
And Breathe Normally
A Fantastic Woman
Ms Purple
American Woman
Light of my Life
Leave no Trace
Rosie
Eighth Grade
Border
Tully
Apostasy
In the Fade
Beast
Pariah
Frantz
The Handmaiden
The Florida Project
American Honey
Raw Elle
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2020 3:43:24 GMT
These are all very good recent films with a female lead / leads And Breathe Normally A Fantastic Woman Ms Purple American Woman Light of my Life Leave no Trace Rosie Eighth Grade Border Tully Apostasy In the Fade Beast Pariah Frantz The Handmaiden The Florida Project American Honey Raw Elle Dont know too many of those, if any. I like these ones
I, Tonya and Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri. Shape of Water was ok. Lady Bird, average, way over-rated. WW was ok. Captain Marvel better. Atomic Blonde-lame. Molly's Game-brilliant. Mother! was good. The Beguiled-underwhelming but I find the director to be overall underwhelming anyway. Yeah these are mainly 2017 films
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Post by Power Ranger on Jan 16, 2020 4:31:53 GMT
Only that it’s not ground breaking. Alien did it 40 years ago and it was loved by all and the film makers didn’t make a big deal about it. Also the problem now is that female leads in action and sci-fi films express the womens’ strengths via their superior fighting abilities and tough girl attitude. Ripley (and Shaw in Prometheus and Daniels in Alien: Covenant) was superior through their intelligence and problem solving abilities. If Alien was made today by a different director she’d probably know martial arts and be a bitch. Which traits do you think are better role models for women? Sure martial arts are great for women but it’s not more important than intelligence. The same goes for men. I just think they’re on the wrong track. Women are leads but their strengths are all too often superficial. Also cant forget Linda Hamilton from Terminator. Although Im more talking about films like Fembusters, Ocean's 8, The Kitchen and theres another one Im forgetting now With Ghostbusters I found Kate McKinnon’s character to be the most annoying character I’ve ever seen. I was shaking my head with every shot she was in. Other than that, the film was just unfunny, but I didn’t hate it except for her. That was the first time I’d seen Melissa McCarthy in a film and found her to be an agreeable presence. |
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Post by darkpast on Jan 16, 2020 6:32:43 GMT
I think that the Top 2 Most Famous Movies with a Female Lead in them are " HALLOWEEN" and " ALIEN". i doubt that, Hunger Games and Twilight are more successful of late , they are not as old , so don't have the legacy. But Alien is under consideration , but Halloween has competition . Something like Thelma and Louise is more memorable.
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Post by wolf359 on Jan 16, 2020 15:07:20 GMT
My own Number 1 Favorite Female-Led Movie is actually "ALIENS".
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Post by nostromo on Jan 16, 2020 15:13:22 GMT
I think that the Top 2 Most Famous Movies with a Female Lead in them are " HALLOWEEN" and " ALIEN". Are they? What about: The Wizard of Oz The Birds The Passion of Joan of Arc Carrie Rosemary's Baby Silence of the Lambs Breakfast at Tiffany's Sense and Sensibilities Hannah and her Sisters Persona
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Post by Prime etc. on Jan 16, 2020 20:40:03 GMT
Just as with painting and sculpture, there have been women-focused artworks since the beginning of film.
Anyone who thinks there isn't is ignorant of history or blinded by their flash in the pan political views.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jan 17, 2020 0:45:58 GMT
Only that it’s not ground breaking. Alien did it 40 years ago and it was loved by all and the film makers didn’t make a big deal about it. Also the problem now is that female leads in action and sci-fi films express the womens’ strengths via their superior fighting abilities and tough girl attitude. Ripley (and Shaw in Prometheus and Daniels in Alien: Covenant) was superior through their intelligence and problem solving abilities. If Alien was made today by a different director she’d probably know martial arts and be a bitch. Which traits do you think are better role models for women? Sure martial arts are great for women but it’s not more important than intelligence. The same goes for men. I just think they’re on the wrong track. Women are leads but their strengths are all too often superficial. why do people always think it’s a good idea to select one movie from forty years ago as proof of progress? |
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Post by wolf359 on Jan 17, 2020 2:50:17 GMT
In terms of female empowerment what comes to my mind are those unconventional roles in which women shatter sexual stereotypes and/or challenge male authority. There are other examples, of course -- of oppressed women being brought to enlightenment and thereby empowerment, and also of women who live more "traditional" lives but do so by virtue of an innate sense of their own empowerment, often born out of necessity. I immediately thought of the following (some already already mentioned): Sigourney Weaver in ALIEN (et al), and Demi Moore in G.I. JANE, two of the most obvious and powerful examples of women shattering sexual stereotypes, along with Julia Roberts in ERIN BROCKOVICH, Susan Sarandon and Geena Davis in THELMA AND LOUISE, Sandra Bullock in GRAVITY, Jennifer Lawrence in THE HUNGER GAMES, and Gal Gadot in WONDER WOMAN. I'd also strongly suggest Sally Field in NORMA RAE, who unexpectedly finds within herself the voice to speak truth to power, and Meryl Streep in SILKWOOD, who undergoes a similar transformation, as does Glenn Close in THE GOOD WIFE, in a more subdued but still profound way. To me, the most interesting part of their stories is the actual "awakening" itself, which is then enhanced by the struggle that comes after. And without a doubt there's Maria Falconetti in LA PASSION DE JEANNE D'ARC, who is perhaps the ultimate (and most divine) incarnation of speaking truth to power. In a more traditional vein, I admire the strength of Irene Dunne in I REMEMBER MAMA, Greer Garson in MRS. MINIVER, Dorothy McGuire in A TREE GROWS IN BROOKLYN, and Jessica Lange in COUNTRY, all of whom with dignity and grace manage to help their families thrive under difficult circumstances. All of these women were the stars and driving forces of these cinematic efforts. They won awards in the process, and are/will be remembered in the history books because of their remarkable performances. And the films run the gamut from 1928 to 2018. I think that says a lot about the subject at hand. 
"Sandra Bullock in GRAVITY" --------------------------------------
Her Number 1 Best Movie as far as I myself am concerned.
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