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Post by tristramshandy on Jan 15, 2020 15:52:34 GMT
Non players: Bill Cohwer, Jimmy Johnson, Paul Tagliabue, George Young, Steve Sabol.
Players: Harold Carmichael, Jimbo Covert, Donnie Shell, Cliff Harris, Alex Karras, Mac Speedie, Winston Hill, Duke Slater, Ed Sprinkle, and Bobby Dillon (like a rolling stone!).
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jan 15, 2020 16:01:15 GMT
Who needs a nickname when your given name is Mac Speedie?
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Post by NJtoTX on Jan 15, 2020 16:22:10 GMT
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Jan 15, 2020 16:23:46 GMT
Is this like their version of a veteran’s committee? Happy for Carmichael, he was great when I was a kid watching Eagles games.
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Post by tristramshandy on Jan 15, 2020 16:26:31 GMT
Is this like their version of a veteran’s committee? Happy for Carmichael, he was great when I was a kid watching Eagles games. Players had to be retired for at least 25 years. The size of this year's class was larger because of the 100th anniversary of the NFL.
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Post by oftrollorigins on Jan 15, 2020 16:53:36 GMT
No Sweetness?!?!
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Post by NJtoTX on Jan 15, 2020 17:05:13 GMT
Kuechly retires at 28. 7 concussions. Antonio Gates quits as well. 2 HOFers.
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Jan 15, 2020 17:08:59 GMT
Kuechly retires at 28. 7 concussions. Antonio Gates quits as well. 2 HOFers. Would you take that trade-off? Play a game you love and earn $63 million doing it, but retire at 28 and have a brain that will likely become cottage cheese if it isn’t already?
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Jan 15, 2020 17:11:26 GMT
Kuechly retires at 28. 7 concussions. Antonio Gates quits as well. 2 HOFers. Would you take that trade-off? Play a game you love and earn $63 million doing it, but retire at 28 and have a brain that will likely become cottage cheese if it isn’t already? I've had a few and I'm not even a professional athlete, may as well take the paycheck.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jan 15, 2020 17:34:24 GMT
Kuechly retires at 28. 7 concussions. Antonio Gates quits as well. 2 HOFers. We are prepared to call Luke Keuchly a hall of Famer?
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Post by NJtoTX on Jan 15, 2020 17:41:29 GMT
Kuechly retires at 28. 7 concussions. Antonio Gates quits as well. 2 HOFers. We are prepared to call Luke Keuchly a hall of Famer? He leads all players in tackles and all linebackers in interceptions and pass breakups since he entered the league in 2012. In eight seasons with the Panthers, after they selected him ninth overall out of Boston College in 2012, he was named to seven Pro Bowls (all consecutively after his rookie year) and named First-Team All-Pro five times, in addition to twice being second-team All-Pro. The only defensive player to have a longer streak of consecutive Pro Bowls was Mike Singletary (10), a Hall of Famer. Kuechly was Defensive Rookie of the Year in 2012 and Defensive Player of the Year in 2013. Only one other player in NFL history has won those awards in back-to-back years (Lawrence Taylor, another Hall of Famer).
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Post by FrankSobotka1514 on Jan 15, 2020 17:43:08 GMT
Kuechly retires at 28. 7 concussions. Antonio Gates quits as well. 2 HOFers. We are prepared to call Luke Keuchly a hall of Famer? Probably the defensive equivalent to Terrell Davis. High peak, no longevity.
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Post by tristramshandy on Jan 15, 2020 17:50:06 GMT
We are prepared to call Luke Keuchly a hall of Famer? He leads all players in tackles and all linebackers in interceptions and pass breakups since he entered the league in 2012. In eight seasons with the Panthers, after they selected him ninth overall out of Boston College in 2012, he was named to seven Pro Bowls (all consecutively after his rookie year) and named First-Team All-Pro five times, in addition to twice being second-team All-Pro. The only defensive player to have a longer streak of consecutive Pro Bowls was Mike Singletary (10), a Hall of Famer. Kuechly was Defensive Rookie of the Year in 2012 and Defensive Player of the Year in 2013. Only one other player in NFL history has won those awards in back-to-back years (Lawrence Taylor, another Hall of Famer). It's crazy that he could be inducted at age 33. I'd say his chances are better than Calvin Johnson's or Patrick Willis's.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jan 15, 2020 17:56:50 GMT
We are prepared to call Luke Keuchly a hall of Famer? He leads all players in tackles and all linebackers in interceptions and pass breakups since he entered the league in 2012. In eight seasons with the Panthers, after they selected him ninth overall out of Boston College in 2012, he was named to seven Pro Bowls (all consecutively after his rookie year) and named First-Team All-Pro five times, in addition to twice being second-team All-Pro. The only defensive player to have a longer streak of consecutive Pro Bowls was Mike Singletary (10), a Hall of Famer. Kuechly was Defensive Rookie of the Year in 2012 and Defensive Player of the Year in 2013. Only one other player in NFL history has won those awards in back-to-back years (Lawrence Taylor, another Hall of Famer). You can certainly make an argument, but Pro Bowls are barely relevant. It's undeniable that he came into the league and made an impact almost immediately and was the best at his position for a few seasons. But since then the unfortunate fact of the matter is that injuries have stolen the potential of his career from coming together. I'd say he's borderline.
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Post by fjenkins on Jan 15, 2020 22:23:26 GMT
Non players: Bill Cohwer, Jimmy Johnson, Paul Tagliabue, George Young, Steve Sabol. Players: Harold Carmichael, Jimbo Covert, Donnie Shell, Cliff Harris, Alex Karras, Mac Speedie, Winston Hill, Duke Slater, Ed Sprinkle, and Bobby Dillon (like a rolling stone!). When they announced Jimmy Johnson at halftime during the KC game, it was one of hte corniest things I've ever seen, I mean ever. A bunch of guys standing on that stupid little football field and the one guy gives a speech to Jimmy "all the amazing things you've done that were so appreciated of" you'd think this was a guy who cured cancer. It was a bad train wreck I couldn't take my eyes off. I already had those little in between football shows but this is the absolute worst.
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Post by Marv on Jan 15, 2020 22:41:11 GMT
Who needs a nickname when your given name is Mac Speedie? He probably has a normal name as a nickname like Henry or John.
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Post by OrsonSwelles on Jan 15, 2020 23:37:26 GMT
Did Johnson really do enough to be inducted? I'm glad he helped Dallas to 2 Super Bowls but an 80-64 record in only 9 years of coaching? Only 4 10+ win seasons. Won his division twice.
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Post by Marv on Jan 15, 2020 23:46:51 GMT
Did Johnson really do enough to be inducted? I'm glad he helped Dallas to 2 Super Bowls but an 80-64 record in only 9 years of coaching? Only 4 10+ win seasons. Won his division twice. Also he finished 18th on Survivor Nicaragua. Out of 20.
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Post by tristramshandy on Jan 15, 2020 23:50:09 GMT
Did Johnson really do enough to be inducted? I'm glad he helped Dallas to 2 Super Bowls but an 80-64 record in only 9 years of coaching? Only 4 10+ win seasons. Won his division twice. It's the fewest number of wins for a Hall of Fame coach (not counting guys like Bart Starr who certainly weren't inducted because of their coaching).
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Post by millar70 on Jan 16, 2020 0:03:59 GMT
Did Johnson really do enough to be inducted? I'm glad he helped Dallas to 2 Super Bowls but an 80-64 record in only 9 years of coaching? Only 4 10+ win seasons. Won his division twice. It's the fewest number of wins for a Hall of Fame coach (not counting guys like Bart Starr who certainly weren't inducted because of their coaching). Hey, guys like Marty Schottenheimer and Marvin Lewis have more wins than Jimmy Johnson, but who would you rather have coaching your team?
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