Denise Richards POLL - Starship Troopers, Wild Things, or...

Jan 30, 2020 3:58:23 GMT Sarge said:

Jan 29, 2020 19:21:47 GMT lenlenlen1 said:

It is neither dishonest nor obtuse. It is an opinion that you disagree with (which is fine) and that bothers you personally for some reason (which I don't get, unless she's your wife or something?)

Dishonest is when you lie-

I'm not lying. What great performance is she known for? Go ahead, I'll wait...

Obtuse is when one is slow to understand-

How am I being slow to understand when making a statement based on having seen most of the womans performances and making an educated opinion based on said info?

So, if you don't know what words mean don't use them.

And by the way, you've gone a little bit out of your way to be an asshole toward me for stating my opinion. You usually get this offended when someone talks about someone you don't even know?

I don't care that you think she's a bad actress, to be honest, but you went even further to say she's nothing other than attractive, you were emphatic and smarmy about it. I didn't like that, it struck me wrong. I don't like it when people conflate personal taste with the objective value of another person, and especially didn't like the tone so I decided to take it up with you. On most days I would ignore it but this time I decided to reply. This is a discussion site, we are discussing. I don't need any other reason and since you weren't nice about saying it, you must be a tough guy so I didn't feel obligated to tiptoe around your feelings. Hopefully we are on the same page now. 

Well I believe you are wrong about her being nothing. Denise Richards didn't just show up one day and get movie deals because her hair was nice and she smiled. As previously mentioned attractive women in hollywood are a dime a dozen, many are better looking than her, and yet she got those parts. So clearly she has drive, professionalism, salesmanship, talent, and work ethic, to get and keep getting roles. She wasn't born to hollywood royalty, wasn't an insider, and had to work her way up and set herself apart from the thousands and thousands of attractive women seeking fame. And whether she's a good actress or not, apparently some people feel she is worth discussion so she has made an impression. Is she a bad actress, I don't think so but she isn't winning any awards so she's not a top actress because we all know that awards are the be-all end-all decider of who is and isn't the best but that doesn't make her nothing.

Alright. lets take a step back. We obviously got off on the wrong foot and some things we've both written were blown out of proportion.

Your contention is that Denise Richards didn't just show up one day and get movie deals because her hair was nice and she smiled. And I'm saying that yeah sometimes its that easy. Sometimes a producer thinks he can get laid by hiring a ditsy little thing who thinks acting is easy because she's photogenic. There's tons of actresses, and yes even actors, who are like that. We all know that's true. If Hollywood is good at anything its attracting good looking people.

Some of them fade into obscurity and some of them actually build upon it to make something of themselves.

Let me give you three examples:

Denise Richards

Margot Robbie

and Brad Pitt

All three gorgeous, all three young when they started, all three known more for being attractive than for some amazing performance the did when they started (I'm talking about the first five years or so of their careers in movies, not now.)

These three big breakout roles were:

Denise- Starship Troopers: In which she did nothing but smile a lot

Margot- Wolf of Wall Street - in which she did nothing but act sexy and show us the full monty

Brad- Thelma and Louise - in which he did nothing but jump up and down on Geena Davis bed shirtless

As time went on these three people had the opportunity to improve on their careers, and take more challenging roles to show off their actual acting ability, and that they were serious about the craft of acting and making movies of value.

Both Margot Robbie and Brad Pitt have gone on to be nominated for Oscars in both supporting and lead categories, have made movies of social value, have portrayed characters that are completely different from themselves, have played in roles that did NOT rely on them being good looking, as a matter of fact both of them have taken roles in which they were both made up to be downright ugly. Both of them have their own production companies, which have made award nominated movies, which have been nominated for BEST picture.

Denise Richards moved on to be in a three way on Wild Things and a reality TV show that was so short lived it was barely a blip.

She was dumb enough to marry and have children with CHARLIE FUCKING SHEEN! Who the fuck in their right mind takes Charlie fucking Sheen seriously enough to marry him and have children with him? Does that scream bright to you?

Like I said in my original post, I don't have anything against her personally, I'm sure she's a lovely person, and I wish her all the luck in the world; honestly. But she has little to no talent and has relied in her entire on the fact that she's attractive.

And as for all the other young ladies (AND MEN!) you mention... them too! Life is amazing when you're that good looking. Otherwise incredibly smart people do incredibly dumb things around good looking people. Sometimes those otherwise smart people give good looking people careers in Hollywood. It happens.